Random question 1: does everyone agree with the following statement:
If you're a "regular joe" and take "victory whippers," you're kind of a tool. But if you're CS, then you're still super cool?
Random question 2: are these 5.15b "consolidated," that is, do other high end climbers agree with them. (I don't suppose non high-end climbers can have a meaningful opinion.)
Why would taking victory whippers make you a tool? It's about having fun right? So unless your a "I climb to look cool type" why would you care what others do as victory celebration.
Consolidated? Your right blahblah, we should be questioning sharmas climbing prowess. He wouldn't know what 5.15 feels like...He hasn't shown us all enough hard stuff yet. You should go try the route and get back to us.
Why would taking victory whippers make you a tool? It's about having fun right?
Right. Keep on with the victory whippers, yo.
Consolidated? Your right blahblah, we should be questioning sharmas climbing prowess.
Uh, yeah, like I did that. It's a bit interesting to me that someone goes for years without rating his hardest climbs, then starts rating them again when it's at a number that no one else is using. Hence my question. My comment could be seen as mildly questioning his rating ability, but not at all questioning his climbing ability.
Work on your reading comprehension skillz between taking victory whippers, bro. And I'm sure that Sharma is glad you know that you got his back.
Who cares? He loves climbing and he's having fun. He's a kid, his life is great, he has wonderful talents and he is a wonderful human being. I say all the more power to him!
Chris Sharma's like the best climber that ever was.
I read an article about him by Sonnie Trotter in some climbing mag about how he was so jealous of him. Sonnie has done the first ascent of Cobra Crack at Squamish but he's no Sharma.
I don't think they're consolidated yet. Some of the rock at Margalef is a bit questionable (haven't been to Sta. Linya). Maybe in about 50,000 years it will be consolidated.
Seriously, though, neither of the routes has had a second ascent yet, so who knows what the grades will end up at. As far as I know, Sharma's suggested grades don't often get adjusted downwards.
There is an amusing discussion at www.8a.nu about Sharma's having grabbed the anchor on Neanderthal.
So, it seems that neanderthals and humans may have been able to produce offspring. That somehow doesn't come as too much of a surprise.
"Why would taking victory whippers make you a tool? It's about having fun right?" Right. Keep on with the victory whippers, yo.
Doesn't seem as self-indulgent in this instance: Long, ultra-steep cave pitch that lips out to chains on a vertical face. Tons o' rope friction,sharp limestone.
If he clips those anchors and lowers, it's a long grind back to the ground, the rope leaves a bunch of its sheath on the lip, and he ends up in the maquis eighty feet from his pharmaceuticals.
I just hate the screaming. I understand that, for Sharma, there is actually a metaphysical rationale for it, but it's spread like a frickin virus to every gym and crag in the world. Not his fault, I guess, but it sucks.
Chris only ever did one thing for me; show up at my wedding as a best man!
Credit: billygoat
I'd tell you who the other guy is, but he's kinda a tool. Okay, he's actually an artist tool. So I guess he's a con artist. No, actually a zen freak. Wait... I like my friends. Chris is one of the biggest sources of inspiration for so many people. You can criticize him for what he hasn't done, but what are you going to say about his accomplishments? As for Adam, don't get on his bad side. Payback is a bitch when you mess with Uncle Sam.
Forget the film name but when he gave a presentation at movement climbing gym a couple months ago he was wearing a helmet. It was on ~7-9 pitch-ish 5.14 climb he bolted- good stuff
The new version of the classic Sheridan cartoon will feature a climber being consoled by the words, "Honn'ld never climbed fifteen b. Florine never even climbed fifteen a, f'r gosh sakes."