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Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 29, 2010 - 01:43pm PT
Why did RokJox's most recent meltdown get yanked? It can't be posted to and has disappeared from the actual list

I'm screaming censorship.

And threatening lawsuits that you have no intention of following through on is immature, ahem, RJ....

If you post up pics of yourself then you have to live with it. And Ps is a fact of life, especially when you get people P'O'd.
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
Jan 29, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
Did I miss some Supertaco drama.

Damm.

Juan
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 29, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
I'm very disappointed, in either the OP for deleting the thread or CMac/RJ for deleting. Censorship.



The evil one
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
Jan 29, 2010 - 01:57pm PT
Please explain what happened
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:01pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1069798/I_nearly_LOST_it

a bunch of posts on it are missing. maybe more now.

RJ melted down over the use of Ps to "enhance" his image, which everyone knows needs some enhancing.
Prod

Trad climber
Dodge Sprinter Dreaming
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
RJ melted down over the use of Ps to "enhance" his image, which everyone knows needs some enhancing.

I'm totally lost here, but a sucker for drama. What are Ps?
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
PS=photoshop.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
RJ was threatening Locker because Locker manipulated some images of Rocky.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
Let that be a lesson to ya, mister.
If you are gonna meltdown, get in the tub first.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
I DELETED the thread!!!

I did not like the way it was going. total thread drift from what it started ou as.

Besides from the way Rokjox was talking, He was going to try to delete the thread anyway.


Cosmic
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
people who feel that their right to free speech is being violated on a commercial site should give a little thought to the bigger picture...

...it is not illegal or unconstitutional to censor speech on a "privately held" web site.

While it is now apparently found unconstitutional to abridge the right of the private sector to engage in political speech, it is not unconstitutional for the private sector to limit free speech in venues that they "own."

What a wonderful thing this free market is... apparently not so free.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
If you are gonna meltdown, get in the tub first.

Dammit Skully, where were you when I needed you? haha..

Wheeeeeeee.. mmmmmeeeeeltinggggggggg
atchafalaya

climber
Babylon
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:30pm PT
That was such a great thread. It had everything I love about supertopo. Thanks Locker
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:32pm PT
It's not the legality Ed, it's the principal. It's not illegal to enhance hook placements either.


Cosmic, love ya bro, but that was lame. No one owns a thread, we can't control where something goes. Just look at my Mark Tight Appreciation thread, it turned into anything BUT appreciation.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:51pm PT
Sorry, Pate.



I'm a baaaaad Boy.






















































errrr, I mean

































































DRAMA QUEEN!

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:51pm PT
As "Meltdown" threads go...

It was SOON to become the "BEST of the BEST"...

Deleting it early ROBBED us ALL of the possibilities...

But Cosmic, it was YOUR "Thread" and you're my "GUD" friend...

so you are 100% (well, make that 99%)...

FORGIVEN...

;-)










EDITED:

I TOO had WONDERED where it had gone to...(edited: and wondered if that KNOCK on the door was the FBI)...

But being the "CREEPY" type of person I am...

I SAVED the "GUD" stuff...
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:52pm PT
What one may build, one may also tear down.....It's what it is.
Movin' along over here, boss.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:53pm PT
We can always pick up where we left off, with this meaningful post:

RokJox:

I wasn't threatening Fatty! See how you guys think?



In almost fives years of my posting here, I have made exactly TWO requests.

1) Don't link my identity, (which is clearly known by most here,) with my screen name. (because I want to post the truth and stories like what happened at the plane crash and other stuff, which so many seem to like hearing, but can't be told if a LITTLE anonymity isn't preserved!). I make no secret about whho I am. But if some employer googles my name, THIS miserable little mud puddle is NOT what I want them seeing when they are thinking about hiring me, (among other things!). There is more to my request than that, but I ain't able to trust secrets to anybody here, can I?


2) And PULL YOUR STUPID pictures of me that you have manipulated!




WHAY too many people cannot make a distinction between what is posted in fun and what is reality. Especially if they are just trying to find a reason to NOT hire somebody. Loki's picture is bizare enough that I DON'T want his Crap associated with me in any way.

You want stupid pictures of you f*#king a tailpipe in a slip, garter belt and stockings, FINE. YOU volunteer. I ain"T VOLUNTEERING!

I am pissed off enough to SUE that son of a bitch right now and I am reaching the point that I DON'T CARE if I got to include Supertopo in the lawsuit.

Do you understand that? It AIN'T I ain't got no humor, I got REASONS.

What MIGHT fly at the DELI, DOESN'T CUT IT ON AN INTERNATIONAL FORUM THAT IS OPEN TO EVERY PERSON ON THE EARTH THAT MIGHT GOOGLE MY UNUSUAL NAME!






wHAT A BUNCH OF RETARDED f*#koffS you all ON THIS THREAD are!

I live in a mormon community that is smaller most of your backyards. My WHOLE STATE is less than 1.5 million people, and my capital city is just somewhere over 100,000 people.


With a name like mine, I don't want a bunch of (..... jesus I just pulled a lOT of descriptions from this sentence) ... people posting sh#t I would have to explain to a Mormon employer who is considering me to sit down in his office next to his favorite daughter for the next ten years! (not that I would EVER be given the chance)

What is so hard to understand about that?




Pull ALL of your pics, "I" will post what "I" want to have MY face on! You want your stupid games, FIne. Do what you want with YOUR face, in YOUR f*#k-ass state! I have a RIGHT to what I want MY FACE ON!

And if Y'all can't understand that, especially YOU locker, you worthless jerkwad, you can goddamn well BET I ain't gonna forget it, and I am going to find some way to bring it HOME to you.

If that means a goddam lawsuit that takes every stick you own and leaves you sucking glue for nourishment, you goddamn better like the taste, because that is what I will DO. And I will exhaust EVERY other possibility before I do THAT, because I am a cheap bastard who doesn't LIKE to spend money. You think about what I can do BEFORE I spend my savings on taking your EVERYTHING and you will PULL YOUR PICTURES AND NEVER MAKE ANOTHER ONE OF ME.
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
Who exactly was the person in this photo I found on the internet ? I forgot ... ;)

Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
wow..........
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:56pm PT
Locker;


I did not want ANYONE to beat my meltdown thread.

I am still the KING!!!

















































Errrr I mean,











































QUEEN!!!









I'll try to make up that 1 percent, somehow



:)
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
THIS time I am innocent...

INNOCENT!!!...



and who's the dude with his weiner in the muffler???...

Is that Don Prude-O ???...
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:58pm PT
or this:


RokJox:

By the way, ROX- you've posted pictures of your house, the city you live in. etc, etc. Think about it man.


Yeah, I know. I try and be decent, and I get stepped on. I am regretting it. I actually thought I was dealing with a group of grown men who were decent and mature individuals who could handle the responsibility of actually knowing where somebody lived, what his friends and himself looked like, what they was doing after all these years.

I actually though that THAT was what THIS site was about!!!

How f*#king hilarious is THAT! Talk about your MISCONCEPTIONS!



So I pulled my Avatar, the one I liked, that showed me in 1973 on the CH on Sentinel with long hair and funny clothes. I LIKED that image. But I pulled it because its the one lockass used on the Douchebag poster.

I left a total of ONE picture of my face, because I really like the picture showing me with an Ol English and a pink Kinnaloa t-shirt and my dog, skiing. I posted my house because I am proud of the pretty place I live in, with the Blue Trim I painted around the windows.

It's a f*#king shame I am so stupid as to have done all that, isn't it?


I guess I really have to pull ALL my posts, ALL my decent, respectable pictures, and leave this website to the sh#t and as#@&%e obsessed people who are trying to make this venue their personal universe where such obsessions aren't considered perversions and childish personality disorders?

Here, if somebody decides they find a way under your skin, they poke and prod and torture it like a five year old retarded kid with a stick and no parents around.





Got any suggestions? I ain't really got the chops for the "Bigwalling" site. And rock-climbing dot com just doesn't do it for me. Too young.



But I actually don't think a majority of the climbers on this website are that big of pricks. I think that One or Three or Five of these jerkwads are actually the very vocal minority. And while I can accept that a little sh#t is thrown here, and I can hold my own in that regard, I don't really see any reason to leave this playground to the biggest bullies.




Loki posted a charming picture of him and his immediate family. It must have been when he was on probation and his Meds were being supervised, he looks almost decent. I have NOT (yet) taken that picture and clipped the children's faces and pasted them into vulgar pornographic images of Loki performing acts of bestiality with them. I COULD. I have the technical skills to play paper, scissors, glue.


But I don't DO that kind of stuff. And that Loki does, just goes to show what a total ass he IS. Thats why he has adopted a blue buttplug as his personal SYMBOL. He NEEDS a buttplug.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
But there was some love too:

Credit: Pate
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 03:00pm PT
But also some scary IDEE-HO stuff too:

RJ:
Edit: Maybe someday some petty little stalker comes by your place and gets his ass blown off because you find him in your backyard poisoning your dog. You can never tell with the intertard net.

Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:02pm PT
Well, I'm an "Idee-Ho", too, And I ain't skeered.

Nice, Dingus. Very much so.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
I'm pretty sure you're not up on Ruby Ridge with the RJ klan Skully. My best bro lives in Ketchum, he ain't too weeeerd.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:11pm PT
"I have ... taken that picture and clipped the children's faces and pasted them into vulgar pornographic images of Loki performing acts of bestiality with them"...(Partial Rokjox post)



Even WRITTING things on the INTERNET can EASILY be manipulated...

MAYBE you "SHUD" get off the INTERNET???...

You KNOW how the POTENTIAL employers are...



And to the Mormons...

You IMPLY that MORMONS have no HUMOR when you write that potential employers might see the manipulations and NOT hire you as a result...

Well...

you're WRONG!!!...

My third wife was an X - Mormon...

But her family REMAINED...

I got to KNOW them and MANY other MORMONS...

and GUESS what???...

THEY had a wicked and GREAT sense of humor...




Should someone run upon the photo's, they most likely wouldn't give a fuking rat's ass...

and I actually believe that you DON'T either dude...

It's simply a matter of control, and yours is not in such "GUD" shape currently...

Most likely because of things going SOUTH around you...

that's my BEST guess...




Because I suspect you are on "Kaniption Row" at the moment...

I'll give you the "Benifit of the doubt" and will REFRAIN from giving you TOO MUCH more sh!t...

Or at least, I'll TRY...

But REMEMBER (you wrote it yourself)...

I AM THE STUPIDEST PERSON HERE (Or was that "SUTPIDEST"???)...

So I may QUICKLY forget...

then superimpose YOUR face on MY a$$hole...

;-)






EDITED:

and FOR THE RECORD...

I AIN'T deleting SH!T...
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 03:13pm PT
And away we go again!!!!!!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:16pm PT

"And away we go again!!!!!!"...



It's HARD to let go of the "GUD" things in life...

and that sh!t started on my BIRTHDAY so I just figured it was Rokjox's PRESENT to me...

Wasn't it???...

Felt like it was...
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
Dude, these internets is like THE Wild West.

Draw, ye danged ol' fleabag varmit!
(Happy Birday, though late, Lockerman) Now draw yore shootin' iron!
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
nice locker, we're both aquarians. but my b-day was a slightly lower #. just slightly though. it hurt.

happy birthday bro.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:20pm PT
"And away we go again!!!!!!"










It's your fault this time, Pate.



:)
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:21pm PT

This "THREAD" feels like a GIFT too...

THANKS!!!...

LOL!!!...






LATE HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! to you too...




EDITED:

Now to go GRIND down some poor INNOCENT customers shoes (and a finger tip or two) and inhale some QUALITY GLUE...
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
What's really... I was going to say weird, but I think maybe "scary" is more accurate... What's really weird/scary about the whole thing is the idea that because someone has done some photoshopping and posted a semi-obscene picture of me on the internet, a prospective employer might not hire me.

Whereas, in reality, the thing that would scare away a prospective employer is the off-the-deep end ranting and threatening that I do in response.

Maybe internet forums are like gambling, or booze, or whatever. You can sit down to a card game now and then, and it makes no impact on your life. Some folks can't control the urge to gamble, and it ruins their lives. Ditto with a glass of wine with dinner for one person, and a life in the gutter for another. Maybe there are people who just should not, under any circumstances, ever log on to a public forum.
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
Ghost - BINGO !

Rokjox should pack his bags and logoff permanently


Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
DRAW!!

Why you daggum stinkin' low down yellah bellied potlicker.....


Jingy

Social climber
Nowhere
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
dang... all this chatter....

what'd I miss?



LOL


Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:27pm PT
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Locker!

































Ya OLD GEEZER!!!!

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143052

If you find this photo, OFFENSIVE, I will DELETE it.
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:30pm PT
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google
Some people do not belong the internet
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:31pm PT
Cosmic...

I find that one OFFENSIVE!!!...



Now please superimpose my face on a beautiful womans "GUD"'s...

at 55 it MAY be ALL I'm going to get...



WHERE'S my GLUE damnit!!!...
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
Hey Survival;
I didn't know you had one of my manipulations on your computer!



photo not found
Missing photo ID#143053
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:39pm PT
GLUE is like a natural Afrodisiac...




















































I accidentally "Jizzed" on someones SHOE...


fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
Yeah, but I don't get picked on as often since Ouch left us.




The evil one
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:44pm PT


NEVER "pick on" a COP!!!...



;-)
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
Hey, I'm offensive.....uh, um, I mean Offended.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
Locker, remember when I accused you of cursing my climbing trips and threatened to come down to J-Tree and entomb you in glue, then shape you into a giant buttplug and go looking for an elephant to stuff you into?

Why didn't you threaten to beat me up or sic your lawyers on me? What's wrong with you?

Happy birthday dude.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:46pm PT

"then shape you into a giant buttplug and go looking for"...













































Juan de Fuca???...

blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:47pm PT
Why does everyone assume that is legal to take other people's pictures and modify them and then republish them?

Isn't that clearly a "derivative work," the right of which to make is reserved exclusively to to the copyright owner? (See 17 U.S.C. Section 106) I know there are lots of artists who post to this site; I'm surprised they don't have a view as to whether their work can be appropriated by others without their permission.

And if the owner of this site is given notice that it is being used as a conduit to further copyright infringement and the owner refuses to prevent that, seems like it's liable for contributory infringement.

RJ should consider registering the copyright of some of his pictures before he posts them here, then post them, sit back and wait for the copyright infringement to occur, and then:
BAM, you're hit with a copyright infringement lawsuit, and he as the right to recover statutory damages and attorneys' fees.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
No monitary gain...

No damages of any sort...

No loss of any sort...

Open forum...

Case closed!!!...
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:52pm PT
"Now please superimpose my face on a beautiful womans "GUD"'s...

at 55 it MAY be ALL I'm going to get..."












OK, Locker.

























































DONE!!!



















































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143054

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 03:57pm PT
I JUST called in on you dude...

If you hurry...

You MAY be able to HIDE out at "PICNIC ROCK"...
















































Credit: locker

Guess not...

blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:02pm PT
No monitary gain...

No damages of any sort...

No loss of any sort...

Open forum...

Case closed!!!...

Maybe, that's why it would be extremely helpful for the copyright owner to have registered his works before the infringing activity began. That way he can recover statutory damages and, possibly, attorneys' fees.

Nevertheless, I'm not so sure that there is no economic damage. This site contains paid advertising, and based on the responses to the threads, the posts that contain apparently infringing photos are some of the most popular on this site. Therefore, the copyright infringement is being used to draw eyeballs, for profit. Not saying I agree with that, but I see the argument . . .
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:05pm PT

"Not saying I agree with that, but I see the argument . . ."...



As an X pro Photogapher I'd venture to guess that it's NOT a problem...

No copyright law has been broken...

NO LAW has been broken...

NO damages have occured...

It's a NO PROBLEM situation other than Rokjox playing it to the hilt and the rest of us FUNNING with it...

NO BIG DEAL!!!...
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:08pm PT
Locker's gonna sue me ?
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google

I doubt it ....
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:10pm PT

People JUMP to "SUE"...







































But then have you ever seen how HOT she is???...(ba dump bump)

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:16pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143057
...


blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:16pm PT
No, I think it's pretty clear you have implied permission to repost photos that others have originally posted on Internet forum (that is, if nothing else, that original poster has chosen to post the photos on a site that invites commentary and replies).

The potential copyright infringement I saw was the preparation of the "derivative work" by Locker. He took RJ's photo (which is protected by copyright law, even if it isn't registered), and then he modified it to create a derivative work. Only a copyright owner has the right to prepare a derivative work (I cited to the federal law that says that above).

Locker's point that there are no damages seems good, but his actions do seem to have caused "psychic" damage--I don't know if those "count" under a claim for copyright infringement.
What if this pisses of RJ so much he goes out and does something crazy?
Lawsuits have filed for flimsier reasons, I'm sure.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:21pm PT


"but his actions do seem to have caused "psychic" damage"...









































...






We "SHUD" ALL sue, Kreskin!!!...





locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:24pm PT

"I don't know if those "count" under a claim for copyright infringement."...



Somehow I seriously DOUBT that it "WUD"...

Otherwise the courts would be full of even MORE nutcases...

Someone could sue Sue, for just being SUE...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
hey blahblah...

THINK about it for a second...

Rokjox is NOT the Photographer that took those photo's...

so where does that "Copyright" issue come into play now???...

bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google

photoid=143047
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 04:47pm PT
blahblahblah is a lawyer right? don't take it personally, but by definition you suck dude. Don't ruin the thread with your occupation, shouldn't you be out ruining lives and transferring wealth for your benefit?

Arguing about copyright law is so "yawn".

Let's just hope RJ ties on a Friday night style buzz and jumps back into this fray.

That muffler seems to be getting a "workout".
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
Poor muffler.
Somebody call Midas.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:53pm PT
I wonder if that MUFFLER

































Charges for












































BLOW JOBS!!!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 04:56pm PT
"Rokjox is way overdue for comment. His average post rate was once every 15 minutes every day. It's been several hours now ..."
















He's out Skiing with his kids.
(Or that's what he said on the thread I DELETED.)

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
He'll Be Back

Credit: Pate

photo credit Google images.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 05:02pm PT
RJ:


Yes, I am that "easy". You want to find out just HOW "easy"?


I want you to delete the picture you stuck my face on about a month ago. You know the one.


I don't like your sense of humor, I find a lot of what you do objectionable. But I don't bitch about you much. But you have photoshopped my face a few times too many, and on images I would break faces over. And you KNOW the one I am talking about.


Honest to God, I offered my favorite attorney several hundred dollars to work on the issue, but he tells me that the laws are too difficult to deal with, they are few, and not very well worked out yet. And its across state lines. So I have to deal somehow with you, or I start with my three alternatives.

What you are doing is visual slander. I have a right to my image and the way it is used. Anybody who isn't insulted by the things you do, is fine. I AM insulted by what you have done, and I intend to see that you either delete what I am insulted by, or I intend to start trying to make some changes in your comfort level.


So go into your photo files and delete your bullsh#t, particularly the first two of me, and I will eventually be able to forget you. Otherwise, I will spend time into the indefinite future finding ways to screw with you.


I may be intelligent, I may not. I already got my opinion of you. You would be far better off just not to try and see how far I might go. That would be far smarter than anything you have shown signs of.

edit: it's almost better on the second read through.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:02pm PT


Did you just break a Copyright Law posting that copywritten photo???...


SHAME on you!!!...




















EDITED:


"or I intend to start trying to make some changes in your comfort level."...


IF WolfDude had a CLUE...

he'd KNOW that won't work...

LOL!!!...
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 05:03pm PT
nope, but I think that this one has a copyright if I'm not mistaken....

Credit: Pate

edit: is that a vagina under that squiggle?
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:05pm PT
You are CORRECT!!!...

I AM a Photographer and it is MY image...

I NOW own the RIGHTS to it...

But you have MY permission to USE it as much as you want...



EDITED:

"edit: is that a vagina under that squiggle?"...

EDITED: Actually, I painted out the weiner to be "INTERNET FRIENDLY"...

Needless to say...

I "WUD"n't want to OFFEND anyone...



One of the funniest ones was when RokJockItch CLAIMED that it was an "Aborted fetus"...

I almost DIED...

It cracked me up fuking "GUD"...





Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 05:06pm PT
Honest to God, I offered my favorite attorney several hundred dollars to work on the issue,

nice, that's a bargain of a retainer. should get you a long ways. maybe they work cheap in I-DEEEEE-HO.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:11pm PT
"my favorite attorney"...



How many do you suppose he has???...

LOL!!!...



EDITED:

Didn't he say and recently POST that he has been UN EMPLOYED going on two(2) years???...(NOT sure on this one)...






Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:15pm PT
Maybe its....



He got me 2.1 billion dollars
He got me 2.1 billion dollars
Credit: Steve L
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:18pm PT
blahblahblah is a lawyer right? don't take it personally, but by definition you suck dude. Don't ruin the thread with your occupation, shouldn't you be out ruining lives and transferring wealth for your benefit?

Arguing about copyright law is so "yawn".

Sorry, I was trying to make it slightly interesting by hinting that that RJ may have a viable case. No one bought it.
How about a claim for good old "intentional infliction of emotional distress," or, my favorite, "outrageous conduct"?
I won't play Mr. Lawyer more than I already have--this whole thing was just so funny that I wanted to contribute--sorry it came across as buzzkill.


Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
James Sokolove is my guy. He's EVERYWHERE man. He got me 6 million when some dude pasted my face on a picture of an aborted fetus.

Credit: Pate
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
This freak has dissed too many legends on ST. What cums around goes around Lance.
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google

photoid=143047
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 05:21pm PT
Where's Fish when you need him? He needs to come out of semi retirement and crucify RJ some more.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:22pm PT



there's NO hope for that poor MUFFLER...









































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143068
...

dirtbag

climber
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:25pm PT
Locker I've loved your photo postings but honestly, I think you took things a little too far with Rokjox. For quite awhile you kept saying in the other thread that you still thought kindly of him but then you kept stuff posted that he was pretty uncomfortable with. I mean, this stuff is supposed be entertaining and in good fun, especially for the person being lampooned, but if that person is really offended and hurt then it isn't much fun anymore and I don't see the point in keep it up.

Anyway, no disprespect intended. I just hate to see people leave like this.

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:31pm PT
dirtbag...

Rokjox has NOT...

"Left the building"...


EDITED:

NO disrespect taken...



































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143071
...

salvador_dali

Social climber
far far away
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:33pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#143072
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 05:34pm PT


LOL!!!...

No you're talking!!!...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 29, 2010 - 06:30pm PT
Poor muffler.
Somebody call Midas.

Midas well, now that the smoke has cleared...

http://www.avvo.com/news/california-mechanic-sells-midas-shops-to-settle-fraud-lawsuit-662.html
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 06:48pm PT


HK to the rescue!!!...















































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143078
...


Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 06:51pm PT
"For quite awhile you kept saying in the other thread that you still thought kindly of him but then you kept stuff posted that he was pretty uncomfortable with. I mean, this stuff is supposed be entertaining and in good fun, especially for the person being lampooned, but if that person is really offended and hurt then it isn't much fun anymore and I don't see the point in keep it up."








I guess I should be Offended, rather than laughing
at all the offensive pics Locker has done of me, since the time I had my meltdown.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 06:57pm PT



"He's BACK!!!"...
























































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143080
...

fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:06pm PT
dirtbag,

Ever the sensitive emo Demo huh! None of the pics were that bad, nothing that couldn't be explained away to a potential employer, who would have to dig pretty hard to find them.


The evil one
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:07pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143083
...

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:20pm PT
Darn;

I can't find that photo I had of Matt Moore, Fattrad, and Nature at the facelift.

It DISAPEARED from my computer when I ACCIDENTLY deleted it.



Anybody?


I NEED more FACES!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:29pm PT

"It DISAPEARED from my computer when I ACCIDENTLY deleted it."...



YOU had their photo SAVED on YOUR...


COMPUTER???...














































Credit: locker
...

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:36pm PT
Credit: Jim Brennan

Amy sez......that's my muffler or something.....I'm itchy,gotta smoke?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:42pm PT
Hey Jim B;


What are you doing posting a pic of
Lockers GIRLFRIEND, online???
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:43pm PT
She said she was his sister.
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
Better to find a girlfriend if ya don't hafta travel.......
Hey, I'm from Arkansas, folks. I can make incest jokes.
I have a pass.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:51pm PT

"She said she was his sister"...



That IS my SISTER...

You "SHUD" have seen her when she was YOUNGER...












































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143091
...

fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:53pm PT
Cosmic,

This one?





The evil one
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 29, 2010 - 07:59pm PT
Amy sez....Get off me dad, you're crushing my smokes and I can't see the TV!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:05pm PT

So you REALLY were a COP...

Found THIS digging around the INTERNET...















































Credit: locker
...

TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:08pm PT
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:12pm PT


Credit: locker
...
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:21pm PT
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:22pm PT
Wow, this thread, which I simply haven't logged enough time in the non-climbing related topics here to even follow, offers a really strange counterpoint to Dingus' lovely paean to Tacolife currently on the front page.

It just doesn't pay to get too wound up, and life is much simpler if you're the same person online that you are to the rest of the world. Or anyway, that's what works for me.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 08:32pm PT
I'm pretty sure most of the posters are exactly the same in real life as here. And that's cool.

Except RokJox, who in real life isn't insane and loves wolves.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:37pm PT
YES, Fattrad.
That is the ONE!!!

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143093
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:49pm PT
Cosmic,

I'm very insulted and want you to either delete or change that last image







I have bigger boobs than that





The evil one
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:50pm PT
On guys they're called MOOBS
Gene

Social climber
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:52pm PT
In your dreams, jeff.


Nice wheels though.
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Jan 29, 2010 - 08:57pm PT
Fatty,
Cosmic is busy with his lighter.
He did tell me to tell you


ALL YOU PRIMA DONNAS ARE ALL THE SAME!





































Studly

Trad climber
WA
Jan 29, 2010 - 09:07pm PT

The old banana in the tailpipe trick.....I've seen it a thousand times.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7hx3SKxsac&NR=1
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
dirtbag

climber
Jan 29, 2010 - 10:17pm PT
dirtbag,

Ever the sensitive emo Demo huh! None of the pics were that bad, nothing that couldn't be explained away to a potential employer, who would have to dig pretty hard to find them.


The evil one

You're probably right, but I don't know , fun's fun and all that but this obviously bothered him deeply.


Oh, and about the sensitive part, f*#k you.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 10:40pm PT
Over 100 posts and still no RJ.

Locker, you've hurt his feeling.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 10:52pm PT
"CUD" be due to the...


O-de-BUD...


but THIS one is bustng me up right now...

...

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Jan 29, 2010 - 10:59pm PT
Supertypo is HILARIOUS! hahahahah




can't stop giggling. I love that sense of humor(as opposed to enjoying and bagging on the discomfort of another....).
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:01pm PT

and it seems many woman don't like the three stooges...

Go figure...




EDITED:

I have the feeling YOU like the Three Stooges...
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:14pm PT


Fattrad...

Call your Lawyer (to SUE me of course) and that Walling fellow...

your chances of becoming President are OVER!!!...

Go BACK to being a COP...





































Credit: locker
...

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:15pm PT
I appreciate the cinematography employed in creating The Three Stooges films... Can't say I have seen enough clips to know whether I liked their scthick though.

I was more of an Ernie Kovaks gal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyckP1Sjjoc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uw03hS_EMY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qe21fEFdvY&feature=fvw


hahah - this one(starring Kovaks in a commercial) is actually climbing-related!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:30pm PT

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143114
...







EDITED:

Ernie Kovaks was FUNNY...


Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
I know why he's smilin'.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:43pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143115


:)))
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:45pm PT


Oh my (frickin!) god, this one had me literally laughing out loud.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:53pm PT
^^^^^^^
His FACE sure is gettin around lately.
I wonder what his grandkids will think>
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2010 - 11:54pm PT
put fattrad in the dope field, cops always have the best weed.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:55pm PT


Credit: locker
...

Lost Arrow

Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
Jan 29, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
“He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:03am PT


...

Tell it Grasshopper!!!...
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:06am PT
If you leave, your words will be missed, RJ. Even if you called me a sissy and what not.

Social maldevelopement will save us, I hope.

Also a locker and Cragsman fan.....
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:19am PT

"I'm very insulted and want you to either delete or change that last image

I have bigger boobs than that"...





































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143119
...

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:19am PT



photo not found
Missing photo ID#143118
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:27am PT

Little WILLIE,
Such a TYKE.
Bought a stick of DYNAMITE.
Curiosity seldom pays,
It RAINED WILLIE for seven days!


If you are a FAN of mine Willie,
it must mean I haven't done any Manipulations of you YET!!!
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:33am PT
???????????????

Feel free

Credit: willie
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:40am PT


Nothing like getting some TAIL...






































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143122
...

as in PIPE!!!...





Welcome ABOARD the "Muffler Train"...

;-)
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:41am PT
Hiya, Willie.....Didja post that in the "Who Are You People" thread?
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:41am PT
OMG. I have arrived.

Good thing I can't afford a dentist, let alone a lawyer!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:42am PT

Maybe he'll use the NEW one...
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:44am PT
Captian - no, but I'll find a better one when this laughter/coughing spell subsides
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:47am PT

Heeey Willie;

You look like a GOOD friend of mine.
His name is, Matt.

Credit: Cosmiccragsman
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:48am PT
Can I use that in the doppleganger thread....


or will he sue me??
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:49am PT

"???????????????

Feel free"
...





My GUESS is you're taking that "FEEL FREE" thing a little TOO far...










































Credit: locker
...

willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:50am PT
Dude!!!!111

I'm gonna have a heart attack!!!!

My dependants will sue your ass!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:56am PT


"My dependants will sue your ass!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111 "...



What ASS???...











































Credit: locker
...

willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:00am PT
Laughter is truly the best medicine!!!

Peace out!!!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:02am PT


Rock and Roll!!!...



"GUD" that you have a sense of HUMOR...





Blowboarder

Boulder climber
Back in the mix
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:06am PT
I live 8 miles from Ruby Ridge (good f*#king snowmobiling!) and this thread is uber lame.

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:14am PT
"Can I use that in the doppleganger thread....


or will he sue me??"











Sure.
He won't Sue. He's a pretty cool guy.

Ya have to admit,You do sort of resemble each other.
You could be brothers.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:18am PT
"and this thread is uber lame."










Then dont post on it!
this thread ie RESERVED for the














UBER LAME!!!

willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:18am PT
A snowmobile is something you hang over your baby's crib with hanging paper cutouts. A snowMACHINE is something you shouldn't ride anymore because we know better. Unless it is your winter car and you need groceries.

Speaking of uber lame said the pot...
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:21am PT
Too easy to switch my flip.

Better walk the dog..
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:27am PT
Willie; Check your email
I just sent you one thru SuperTopo
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:37am PT
Cragsman, I can't get in there as much as I'm dying to read my recent hatemail. I must have even bullshitted the answere to my secret question.
You actually have my real e-mail, believe it or not.
I'm kinda surprised you haven't put 2 and 2 together.

Peace
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:45am PT
"You actually have my real e-mail, believe it or not.
I'm kinda surprised you haven't put 2 and 2 together."



IZZAT you Matt, errr Willie?


If so, why haven't you RETURNED my 1000 or so phone calls
I've left in the last MONTH??????????????????????????????????????/

willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:48am PT
Not Matt. I knew Hosh a few years ago. I would prefer to not broadcast my real name for obvious reasons. It's been kinda downhill since we last talked. I'll e-mail you.
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:50am PT
Well, it doesn't show your address when I click e-mail Cosm...,

I'm sure you can figure it out.

Peace
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:58am PT
Ok willie.
I haven't heard from Hosh in a year or so. I wonder how he is doing.

Looking forward to your email

My phone is 760-247-8091. also if ya want to call.
I looked in my address book under willie and I couldn't find an email for you.

My email is cosmiccragsman@msn.com
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 02:11am PT
message sent, walking dog in super freshies falling...............
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 03:34am PT


"I live 8 miles from Ruby Ridge"...


"GUD" for you...
willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 03:43am PT
So I tried to check out to a movie, but it didn't work.

Don't joke about ruby ridge.

The f*#king swat team shot the kid's dog. And then they shot the kid trying to save his buddy.

A tragedy regardless of his dad's beliefs/actions.

willie

Trad climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 03:54am PT
Holy thread destruction, resurrection, and DRIFT!

RockJox????
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 11:54am PT
I'm worried about RokJox- 24 hours and no angry retorts.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:16pm PT

What I WONDER is IF Rokjox was JUST "Trolling"???...

Someone suggested that he was (I think)...

It "WUD" be a "GUD" fuking one if true...


Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 12:25pm PT
I live 8 miles from Ruby Ridge (good f*#king snowmobiling!) and this thread is uber lame.

that smells like RJ
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 12:28pm PT

I WONDERED the SAME thing...

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 12:34pm PT
Ruby Ridge is nowhere near Boise, it's as far north in ID as you can get, which if it is RJ trolling, he's F.O.S., which sounds about right.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:32pm PT
I'm sorry to see ST get to this point. Shame on all sides.

I like Rokjox. Sometimes he is the only other poster willing to stick his neck out and think. I hope he hasn't left ST.

You guys need to treat one another as you would want to be treated.

The Golden Rule.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:36pm PT
"You guys need to treat one another as you would want to be treated.

"
...




Uh...


We do...








EDITED:

"I like Rokjox. Sometimes he is the only other poster willing to stick his neck out and think"...


Other than the fact the he went balisitc on Russ and did the SAME on me, threatening to sue me, kick my ass, make my life "uncomfortable" etc...

Guess what Klimmer...

I STILL don't REALLY have ANYTHING again the dude...

He's been unreasonable and I truly suspect he stepped in the sh!t he did, for reasons not ST...

And THAT is the ONLY reason, I personally HAVE NOT continued to be TOO hard on the guy...





But I "stand my ground" on the photo's...

They REMAIN!!!...










He "CUD" have simply LAUGHED about it and joined in on the fun...

Instead he had a "Meltdown"...



But he wrote that he was "Anti Social" and THIS situation adds to that issue...



Sabotaging(sp)...
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 01:47pm PT
Klimmer , To Click And Post Or Not To Click And Post- That Is The Choice.

You need to exercise your choices a little more.
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:49pm PT
I'm sorry to see ST get to this point. Shame on all sides.

Life's best lessons are the ones hardest learned

There is nothing shameful about that


Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 30, 2010 - 01:57pm PT
Klimmer,

This is SuperTopo, if one can't take the heat, they need to get off the net.


Rokjox is tough, he'll be back.



The evil one
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 02:30pm PT
From Wiki:

Wet Blanket
1) A negative person who tends to ruin other people's good times.

2)
Credit: Pate
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 02:41pm PT

ALL about, "DELIVERY"...




Now that's some FUNNY sh!t...

LOL!!!...


kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 30, 2010 - 04:27pm PT

"I live 8 miles from Ruby Ridge (good f*#king snowmobiling!) and this thread is uber lame."

"that smells like RJ"

i don't think so. check Blowboarder's history - 1308 posts going way back.

i do hope Rokjox reappears.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 05:58pm PT
"i do hope Rokjox reappears"...




He NEVER left...







Posted by WolfBoy,Jan 30, 2010 - 01:44pm PT

"deer elk bighorn sheep antelope sage grouse quali chukar etc etc...

Nobody on this forum cares about the destruction of all of those species. At least not as has been happening in Idaho by the exotic animal introduction of Canadian Wolf packs. And here it wasn't a matter of competition of resources by grass eaters, where the animals have a chance, all they have to do is spread out; Its the loss of 1/2 the animal populations through a terrible RENDING painful KILLING form of death.

And I find it funny all the nashing of teeth over a few horses. It was on THIS website that people were calling for their roundup just a few days ago. EVERY wild animal roundup has losses, its not the governments fault. That kinda sh#t happens everytime."
...

(Edited to SHORTEN)




Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 30, 2010 - 06:03pm PT
Group hug, everyone.

This too shall pass.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 06:08pm PT

"Sometimes he is the only other poster willing to stick his neck out and think"...



Apparently ONLY two(2) people on this forum can THINK and "stick their neck" out at the same time...

Now THAT's...

TALENT!!!...
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 30, 2010 - 06:44pm PT
Who cares, eh?
I (tried to) bike with the guy.
Whatever.
Oh, now I get raving E's. Why am I so special?
I thought I was just some chimp chump. Whatever.

None of my biz. Weird sketchiness.
Folks should chill. I've learned this. Oh, yes.

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 08:14pm PT
also,

North=RokJox

edit: maybe not, but the post he made sure sounds like it.
luggi

Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
Jan 30, 2010 - 08:36pm PT
Credit: luggi
this is my observation and facial expression after following this thread..geeezus


Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 08:38pm PT
"To Click And Read Or To Not Click And Read..........."
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 08:59pm PT
For the record, I have been asked to remove the TWO photo's that seem to be TOO offensive for the WEAK...

and I HAPPILY complied...

Why???...

Because I totally RESPECT the person that emailed me, took the time to email me, and wrote the request with respect and care...



I LOVE this SITE...

Doesn't get ANY better!!!...





You WIN Wolfman...

Now you can rest easy...

be HAPPY...

;-)


locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
"I have been asked to remove the TWO photo's that seem to be TOO offensive for the WEAK..."...

ANOTHER...

"for the record"...

there was ONLY one(1) "Weak" person that COMPLAINED...





here's a HINT...


































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143214
...






WBraun

climber
Jan 30, 2010 - 09:18pm PT
If you look at whole thread critically ....

It's really Locker who's losing it.

He can't stop posting in this thread because he's ridden with unconscious guilt.
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Jan 30, 2010 - 09:23pm PT
Locker is doing just fine.

He has nothing to be ashamed of. His pictures are hilarious.

For Rox to complain about how he is treated is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.

Learn that little boy.


Skip
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 09:25pm PT
they have "Armchair Admirals" and Werner...

the...

"Armchair EVERYTHING"...

;-)


EDITED:

dude, you crack me up!!!...














EDITED:

"He can't stop posting in this thread because he's ridden with unconscious guilt."...

Or MAYBE I'm at home WORKING on shoes and while WAITING for the GLUE to set up, I'm BORED sh!tless and fuking around on the computer???...




Nah!!!...

Most likely...

"unconscious guilt"...



LOL!!!...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 09:39pm PT

Job WELL done!!!...

Happy NOW WolfWuss???...



Have your Lawyer call me!!!...

Email for my number...
James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
Jan 30, 2010 - 10:19pm PT
I have been put off by some of RJ's post/rants also. He can be a little hard to take sometimes, but so are some of the others on here. He is obviously VERY offended. Maybe you guys should give him a break?
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 30, 2010 - 10:20pm PT
locker,

I'm shocked, nothing you posted was that offensive compared to some of your previous work. Put those pics back up.


The evil one
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
Hey James...


he OFFICIALLY complained...

photo's removed (mine anyway)...

supposedly threatened a LAW SUIT against myself and ST...(supposedly STILL going to SUE me... BRING IT THE FUK ON!!!)...

Not TOO cool!!!...

Control FREAK with a bug up his ass...

DOESN'T deserve a "break"...





EDITED:

Hey Fattrad...

I KNOW!!!...

Talk about being a WUSS...
James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
Jan 30, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
Yeah, he went off when I posted about people leaving their dogs tied up at the base of climbs or just running around while they are climbing. Just a quick comment and out came a page long dissertation about Cali's and Idaho and we all got dogs stay out of Idaho... I thought what the f*#k? But I guess I just felt kind of sorry for him.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 30, 2010 - 10:46pm PT

Someone must win the prize...............


Those pipes cause trouble................


We can't be lovers,maybe later we can be friends again............


But don't call Lawyers over stupid fun........
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:01pm PT


"suing someone is regarded as what folks without any integrity do!"...

~~~UKN, 2010
James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
Nice job on the great white grizzly.
Edit after Locker post; I totally agree with that.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 11:06pm PT
That's actually a Brown Shark James
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:11pm PT
James,

These are only images posted and or created by others that I "borrowed".
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:13pm PT

Credit: locker
...

James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:14pm PT
Great white grizzly sounds cool though.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:25pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143250
...



Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
200 on the lamest thread in WEEKS!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 30, 2010 - 11:56pm PT


CROSSLINK




to a






























crossLINK!

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1073764/CrossLINK_OT
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:23am PT
Hey James...he OFFICIALLY complained...
photo's removed (mine anyway)...
supposedly threatened a LAW SUIT against myself and ST...(supposedly STILL going to SUE me... BRING IT THE FUK ON!!!)...
Not TOO cool!!!...
Control FREAK with a bug up his ass...
DOESN'T deserve a "break"...

Locker, is this true? Lance filed a complaint with CMac about your photos?

Before I start ranting, please clarify. Did Lance actually complain? And did Chris Mac ask you to scrub the photos?

D

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:35am PT
Yes he did. Ghost.
Seems like Rokjox can dish it out,
but he CAN"T take it!!!!!!!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:42am PT
What a pathetic piece of human garbage. His own posts are full of hate and anger and nastiness, but the instant some fun is poked at him, he goes crying to mommy.
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:46am PT
Locker,

This is an easy one.

As someone who is not a lawyer but has been involved with all kinds of crazy legal issues surrounding websites I can assure you rockjox is blowing smoke. I can tell by the way this story unfolds.(I am sure you know this though. I will tell it so others can understand how the world works.)

This ain't no parking ticket. This is a damages issue and he has to prove it. Its either a 100 dollar letter or a 5,000 dollar retainer on his part.

"Throwing a few hundred dollars at a lawyer" for a case like this is funny. Seriously, funny. Rockjox didn't talk to anyone is my guess. Or maybe he called someone and they blew him off which may be true as well. If he did get blown off he should have learned something.

This is why:

First off, you don't need a few hundred dollars for a lawyer to write a cease and desist letter. $75 to $125 maybe from a good one (read expensive.) One that includes all the huffing and puffing and citations of this law and that. A lawyer that can put two sentences together. (It's been my experience not all can.)

So, I guess he thought he could just bluff a suit? Is that it?

No way would a good, reputable lawyer do that without the obligatory cease and desist first to see if that would work. In fact a judge would be leery if he didn't see it. A reputable lawyer knows this and would never just jump right in. Because he knows (and the judge knows as well) a suit of this kind would be a multi 10's of thousands of dollars one. I'm thinking 20 to 50 (maybe more if you have money and can fight back.)

Remember, he's got priors here on the Taco. And because he has priors he has to prove his innocence and damages. And, since they don't work for glue one look at Lance Lynch and they know he doesn't have sh#t to go on any type of holy crusade with. Good lawyers can smell money and he aint it.

That is why "a few hundred" is a dead give-a-way Rox doesn't know what the f*#k he is doing and is just blowing smoke.

In fact I will go further and say you had it right when you said "He was having a bad hair day" or something to that effect.

A few hundred dollars. Bwahahahahahah....

If it were me I would make him pay the 75 to 125 and then see what happens.
You can always take things down after that. Their ain't no damages here by what I can tell. In fact I'd write a letter back detailing his priors. (That would piss off his lawyer. Not to mention his wife.)

But, no. You are nicer than me. I would have have made the poor boy work every step of the way.


Skip

EDIT: Let me see if I have this right. I get a thread started by someone telling me to go and "F" myself and I don't ask anyone to take it down.

I get threatening emails from someone using the term "Breaking faces" and nothing gets done. (Not you moosie, you and I are cool.)

Rockjox is an ass clown.

EDIT: EDIT: Locker, seems like you are on the right side of this deal. Assclown shoots his wad and you take down a couple of pictures. Not a bad trade in my book.
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:51am PT
Think of it this way:

Just another loser trying to engage your energy to compensate for his/her pathetic life. You want to give them all that time of yours?

I certainly choose not to. Your call.

Nonetheless, the spin-outs, deletions, complaints, ad nauseum, are not new to Lance, or any other number of posters on this board.

And now some Elvis Costello, for clarification:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbCyfyiEWCw
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:52am PT

Ghost...

Yes...

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:59am PT
"EDIT: Let me see if I have this right. I get a thread started by someone telling me to go and "F" myself and I don't ask anyone to take it down.

I get threatening emails from someone using the term "Breaking faces" and nothing gets done.

Rockjox is an ass clown."
...



He CLAIMS he emailed me and requested I remove the photo's...

NEVER got that email!!!...


This dude is fuking a crack up...

either MENTALLY ILL or a GREAT "Troller"...








EDITED:

"Just another loser trying to engage your energy to compensate for his/her pathetic life"...


And somewhere he wrote that he had issues with HIS "Anti Social Behavoir"...

Ya think???...







Climbing EDIT:

Climbing sure does bring out a bunch of NUTS...




DOUCHEBAG EDIT:

He pulled this sh!t on Russ, me and how many others???...

And to think...

Up until yesterday, I was giving him the benifit of the doubt and still thinking he may be decent. Decent, a word he uses often. One that eludes him personally...


Started because I BACKED Russ and since then he's had a crooked hair up his ass against me...

dude's a JOKE!!!...



Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 31, 2010 - 01:24am PT
Climbing sure does bring out a bunch of NUTS...

No, Locker, climbing mostly brings out a bunch of really wonderful people. We've all got our problems, and none of us is perfect, but most of us try to be as decent as we can. And most of us know that it's worth accepting the imperfections of others in return for having our own imperfections accepted.

But "most of us" doesn't mean "all of us." There are a few in this community who are virulent in unwillingness to accept the differing views of others. But this particular case goes beyond even that, because here we have someone who regularly unloads all kinds of nastiness on others, but can't accept even the slightest criticism of himself.

So don't sweat it.

Sure, you maybe get carried away sometimes, and post things that would be better kept as a private giggle. But that's hardly the end of the world. If you'd posted some kind of unpleasantness about someone nice, then I'd be among those calling for your head, but to send a little message back at someone whose native language is nastiness... Who can argue with that?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 01:34am PT
Roks WORDS are way more OFFENSIVE than any of Lockers pics are!!!
You shoulds SEE a Couple of emails he sent me,regarding Locker and someone else on this site.
They were VILE and OFFENSIVE



EDIT:I'm thinking about asending THEM to C Mac!

bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Jan 31, 2010 - 01:38am PT
Anders will you be representing me or Rokjox in the Canadian trial ?

Mt. Assinnine - First ascent:  Rokjox
Mt. Assinnine - First ascent: Rokjox
Credit: Google

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 01:46am PT
He's emailing people I know and blabbering like one hell of a FRUIT CAKE...

He's emailing people he knows and trying to get them to side against me...

He's calling people and discussing this turning it into a POTENTIAL...


BLOCKBUSTER!!!...








































Staring...






































CLARK EGO...


















































Credit: locker
...






EDITED:

"EDIT:I'm thinking about asending THEM to C Mac!"...


Cosmic...

DON'T!!!...

Seriously dude...

CM DOESN'T need or WANT this headache RockyFoulNoa has brought on...




What I DON'T get...

Is WHY he(Lon Chaney) NEVER emailed ME directly and ASKED...

And IF he did, and it somehow NEVER made it, or even if it did and I became BRAIN DEAD and somehow totally forgot, why in hell did he not just email AGAIN and ask rather than all this BS???...

Now he's calling and emailing all sorts of people when he "CUD" have just emailed ONE or TWO to me directly...

GO FIGURE...




Steve L

Gym climber
SUR
Jan 31, 2010 - 02:50am PT
I work for a fairly large company, and I have been responsible for hiring a few people over the years. When we start the hiring/screening process (we do heavy background checks), we start with basic google searches of the candidate. You see all kinds of stuff......court cases, crazy blogs, questionable Facebook profiles, psycho Twitter posts, all kinds of weird shit; and yes, random forum posts. If you see some racy pics (commonplace with 20 somethings' FB profiles), or some back and forth ribbing and banter on a forum, you assume that the person is normal. You might also assume that the person has a good sense of humor - a highly valuable trait when dealing with clients. If you see pics that are OBVIOUSLY manipulated by a third party.....non issue. However, the one thing that you ALWAYS stay away from, the major deal breaker, is a history of litigiousness. As an employer, the one thing you fear most, and avoid like the plague, is a person who has the tendency to sue. Pathetic little creature.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 10:12am PT
Steve, that is extremely good to hear. I'm in the same boat- it's the willingness to jump immediately into court and litigation that seems to be a far more realistic indicator of personality than (albeit crude sometimes) ribbing or arguing.

Some peolpe are so desperate to win or control that in the absence of the ability to actually do that they will toss everything up to a judge to decide, as if to say "If I can't have it neither can you."

It has also been my experience that these types of people NEED justification for their outrage, and that the courts, by simply accepting these types of situations, fulfill these peoples strange needs. These types feed on attention, the proverbial Drama Queen.

Unfortunately in the US, no one can be denied access to a court of law- which has spun out of control into a litigious joke, and weak, nasty people become empowered.
Timid TopRope

Social climber
Paradise, CA
Jan 31, 2010 - 10:46am PT
If you'd asked me a week ago, I would have said I'm not into soap operas but this one is pretty good.

So a prospective employer googles fancy pants lance and possibly finds a reference to ROCKJOKE on ST. Now the fun ensues....

Prospective employer sees hundreds of posts of mainly chest thumping, diatribes and name calling with many allusions of violence, retribution and a total lack of self deprecation.......

Dick Cheney hiring? If not, then who? et tu brutus?

Seems to me, those photos would be the least of lances hurdles to surmount. You ever see an attack dog run the length of their chain only to get yanked back at the tether?

Andy Tomaselli
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:04am PT
Prospective employer sees hundreds of posts of mainly chest thumping, diatribes and name calling with many allusions of violence, retribution and a total lack of self deprecation.......

Dick Cheney hiring? If not, then who? et tu brutus?

Seems to me, those photos would be the least of lances hurdles to surmount.

Bravo!

-and ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

I generally skip the loquacious megalomaniacs' posts, but the average employer might knott.

As the classic WWII saying goes: "loose lips sink ships".

Rokjox has done a remarkable job of sinking his own.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:34am PT
Not llike you didn't see it coming.
Did rkjx get the boot?
Hope it's just temporary
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:41am PT
As one who had their legal name linked to their non-business internet crap, I can tell you it is not fun doing a Google search and seeing the bullshit come up - years later - within the first items.

You all may be right that the person this thread is yanking off about has posted some rude and mean stuff. But do you really want to have it in the back of your mind, as you watch that person struggle financially, that it was THIS stupid thread that has assisted in their difficulty in finding work? Do you really want his family, perhaps his wife, to find such a thing and then go clicking off to see what else he's had to say online? Really?

I know this is all in 8gud* fun to some of you, but my god; What wankery. Winter cabin fever is about the best I can categorize the reason for it being.

Please - Give it a rest already. Forget about the photos; just go back and delete his legal name - those who have posted it. If not as an act of kindness, then out of a favor to me. I can tell you that I do not enjoy the fact that my family can search my name and get a nice, juicy, nasty post about my private life, in an area that is pretty high on the sensitivity scale for me. Perhaps you might be doing more damage than you are imagining.

nita

Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:53am PT
The Lord of the Flies- is alive and well on S.T...

Thanks for your post Happigrrrl.....
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 12:00pm PT
happiegirl- unfortunately that's just the way the world is now. I don't mean to be crass, but when it happens, like any other thing in life, you just have to deal with it.

As an aside, why should any one pull pictures or posts "As a favor for you"? How do you come front and center into the issue 300+ posts later? I don't get the connection. How is this suddenly about you? Sounds like you need to heed the "To Click And Post Or To Not Click And Post" rule.

You're definitely right about the legal name though. I concur with you there. (see below on this point)

But on the other stuff, insignificant and typically............
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:01pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=918389&tn=0&mr=0
(see second post - defaming Fish Products)

Lance had every opportunity to remove this post (and the subsequent taunting that followed).
He chose knott to.

Reap what you sew? (pun intended)

Why the double standard?

Dave Buchanan
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 12:06pm PT
whoa- I never saw that. After seeing that I'm thinking he's getting "Payback Lite" comparatively.

Way uncool.

edit: Way to man up on the name Dave. I'll now officially rescind my prior statement about the name pulling.
skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:06pm PT
Happi,

I understand your concerns but let me say this:

I was in the middle of an argument with Rox once when overnight I got some emails from an anonymous person physically threatening me and my family. What struck me most on this thread was their use in the emails of the term, "breaking faces." (Sound familiar? Go back a couple of pages and you will see what I mean.)

I'm sorry. I have to respectfully disagree. No amount of concern about his plight ever excuses this type of behavior.

This said I do think you make a good point.

But,

I'd say something smells fishy on the taco and Lance Lynch in particular.

I applaud locker.

Thank you sir.


Skip
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:27pm PT
So Happie;
Don't take offense at this, but;
It's ok for Rok to email people and try to drive wedges into peoples friendships, but it's not ok for us to poke fun at his rantings?

I do know how meltdowns can be as I have had my own, but I never saw you sticking up for me when Locker was posting his manips of me.
To tell ya the truth Locker manips made me sit down and THINK how
stupid my rantings were.

It was all in fun, and if rok wudda just have joined in the banter rather than making personel attacks with vile emails and on the thread, it
would have all blown over.

I don't think you would like it a lot if I emailed you about one of your friends, and told you your friend was a S#ithead and other things.
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:29pm PT
Just responded to an email from Rokjox, I told him that I thought he over reacted.

The evil one
Dave Buchanan

Gym climber
Marin Hot Tub Country
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:34pm PT
whoa- I never saw that. After seeing that I'm thinking he's getting "Payback Lite" comparatively.

Way uncool.

edit: Way to man up on the name Dave. I'll now officially rescind my prior statement about the name pulling.

Thanks.

A little perspective goes a long way (especially so in this case).
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:40pm PT
"Lance had every opportunity to remove this post (and the subsequent taunting that followed).
He chose knott to.

Reap what you sew? (pun intended)"








Well put HK
That's what I meant when I said in a previous post, "Rok can dish it out but he can't take it."
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:44pm PT
Gee Pate;
Aren't you GLAD I DELETED
the Disappearing thread?

Now you get the CREDIT for
the Thread of the year!!!


:)


Oh well, Off to wash windows.
This thread shud be up around 300 by the time I get home.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:47pm PT
Well put HK
That's what I meant when I said in a previous post, "Rok can dish it out but he can't take it."

Exactly.

I love this little gem Locker posted:

Credit: Hardman Knott
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 12:50pm PT
It's truly an honor CC-

I'd like to thank my family, my girlfriends, my agent, my accountants, my attorneys, my Voo-Doo priest, my gerbils, and I really couldn't have done it without RokJox, who made all this possible.

fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 31, 2010 - 12:55pm PT
But let's not get too joyful about this, hopefully Rokjox will grow from this experience.


And I still want my photo pulled unless Cosmic gives me bigger moobs.



The evil one
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
He keeps it up...

and ONE of us MIGHT actually have a CASE...

And considering that I am NOT "slandering" him and that he is emailing/calling my friends and CUSTOMERS and MALICIOUSLY SLANDERING me???...(causing potential MONITARY DAMAGE to my BUISNESS)

Even posted all sorts of THREATS towards me INCLUDING, physical violence...

"SHUD" go WELL in COURT...


I DIDN'T even know his full Name UNTIL this thread...

NEVER met the guy...

NEVER meant HARM...

JUST...

PLAYING...





Dude WIGGED!!!...

NEW case on the HORIZON???...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 01:47pm PT
"And considering that I am NOT "slandering" him and that he is emailing my friends and CUSTOMERS and MALICIOUSLY SLANDERING me???...

Even posted all sorts of THREATS towards me INCLUDING, physical violence...

"SHUD" go WELL in COURT..."
...



































Credit: locker
...





EDITED:

I JUST realized that the YOUNGER crowd MIGHT not get it...

I am "Ironsides" the Lawyer...









EDITED:

Hey Happie...

I post piece of "ART" and someone doesn't like it...

In return, I get threatened with PHYSICAL VIOLENCE, a Lawsuit, my friends and CUSTOMERS get s slew of unbelievably RUDE and CRUD emails and phone calls SLANDERING me...

and in return WHAT do I do???...

No Threats, No phone calls to his friends, no emails or phone calls to TRY and get people to SIDE with me AGAINST him...

JUST me DEFFENDING myself HERE, for having posted a SIMPLE and HUMOROUS piece of HACK...

"Artwork"...

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
I just passed the exam, got certified and assigned...

Bring it on!!!...











































Credit: locker
...

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 02:17pm PT
locker Bader Ginsberg
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jan 31, 2010 - 02:29pm PT
Wow...no wonder I try to be nice to everyone, even on the intardnet.

It's so easy to come off all bad*ssy with people on here, but I don't really see it paying off for people.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 31, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
So if RJ is such an obvious whack job (and that appears to be the case, although we're only getting one side of the story), why are you all taunting him so much instead of just leaving the guy alone?

Is cyberbullying someone who seems to have some mental health issues and a rough life really that much fun?

But thanks for allowing me to feel morally superior--a feeling I don't often get to enjoy.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
Jan 31, 2010 - 02:48pm PT
Locker,

some of your ps work is just plain sh#t but that last one of you as a judge is pretty fukin funny!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 02:52pm PT
"And I still want my photo pulled unless Cosmic gives me bigger moobs."









OK

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143295




Does that mean I don't have to Delete it now, Fattrad?


Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jan 31, 2010 - 05:43pm PT
An aptly named blahblah wrote:
So if RJ is such an obvious whack job (and that appears to be the case, although we're only getting one side of the story), why are you all taunting him so much instead of just leaving the guy alone?

Is cyberbullying someone who seems to have some mental health issues and a rough life really that much fun?

But thanks for allowing me to feel morally superior--a feeling I don't often get to enjoy.

Ahh, poor Rokjox the victim...

So no mention of his HARASSING EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, not to mention thousands upon thousands
of antagonistic (and some demonstrably libelous) posts made by him, and WE are the bullies all of a sudden
by posting unflattering PS jobs of him, and posting some of his quotes?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Poor, poor victim!
And if Y'all can't understand that, especially YOU locker, you worthless jerkwad, you can goddamn well BET I ain't gonna forget it, and I am going to find some way to bring it HOME to you.

-Rokjox aka The Victim™
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 05:54pm PT

"Locker, some of your ps work is just plain sh#t"...











































"SUM" people are so rude...


















































photo not found
Missing photo ID#140470
...



fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 31, 2010 - 05:55pm PT
Thank you Cosmic, it may stay here in perpetuity now.



The evil one
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 06:03pm PT


"I'd NEVER attempt to "impact your livelyhood." I've just never been that kind of guy.

I fully believe everybody has a right to do their own thing."
...




Written by WOLFBOY to someone else on ST...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 07:53pm PT


It's ALMOST like I am "taking over" the ENTIRE forum and site...

AMAZING!!!...



IT's LIKE...

























































MAGIC!!!...










































Credit: locker
...



Sure thing DOUCHEBAG!!!...

"locker is taking over this forum"...

I post on ONLY a FEW threads...

yet I am...

"TAKING OVER"...



LOL!!!...
sportcamper

Trad climber
gunx
Jan 31, 2010 - 08:16pm PT
Locker- may the "spirit" be with You...

god....

some thin skin on certain folks...

what a shame.....

but-

I am going cimbing, hope the rest of y'all are too!!!!!!

peace!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:00pm PT
It's easy to say "Lance had it coming." I said it upthread, and it's probably true. But nonetheless, instead of just continuing to make fun of him, maybe we should all back off a bit and see what happens.

The man is obviously troubled, and his troubles are compounded by drink. He often vents unreasonable anger on this forum, but maybe what's happened in the last few days will make him realize that if he tones himself down and contributes in a positive way, then this kind of crap won't happen in the future. Who knows?

One thing I do know is that poking a caged animal with sharp sticks is no sign of maturity or humanity. We've all had a turn at telling him that it was his own uncontrolled and aggressive behavior that led to this, so maybe now is the time to say "You've paid the price, so come on back and if you make a positive contribution, you'll be welcome.

D
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:01pm PT
The Ghost is Wise.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:09pm PT

I suppose I've "Said my piece" (and a Bag-O-chips)...

;-)
dustonian

climber
Foresta
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:12pm PT
Ghost is right, what's the point in ridiculing someone who is obviously troubled to begin with? Some of the attitude on this thread remind me of a bunch of teenagers picking on the fat kid who doesn't fit in... pretty pathetic really, maybe it's time to grow up a little bit huh? Just because one guy is a big baby doesn't give a free license for some of you to turn into a bunch of malicious adolescents in forum-land. I'd recommend trying a new hobby for some of you guys, because climbing obviously isn't doing it for you anymore...oh yeah, that reminds me why I never bother looking at this site anymore.
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
I have been reviewing the two threads, the "I almost lost it" thread in the kill file, and deleted by Cosmic (Thank you Cosmic) at ;

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1069798&tn=0&mr=0

and this one, and I GOT to say it looks like a Mr Clean Email !McBomb! went off here. I aint never seen so much stuff get so whitewashed before.





Now. As to THIS thread; what almost TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY POSTS (!) without a WORD from ME in MY defense? Guess I will take this last chance to fix that. Excuse me, but this is going to be LOOONG.



NOTE:
If any of the above quotes taken by Locker-Skipt-Cosmic-Others look damaging to me; especially if copied from the "I almost lost it!" thread, just go back to the original thread in the kill file above and review what I actually said. As to Skipts take on what I said, it was based off what others said and I think I actually made a perfectly clear statement.


Excerpted:
"
Honest to God, I offered my favorite attorney several hundred dollars to work on the issue, but he tells me that the laws are too difficult to deal with, they are few, and not very well worked out yet. And its across state lines. So I have to deal somehow with you, or I start with my three alternatives.


As In ; I offered him money to tell me what to do about this, and he said "I couldn't do much of anything legally that would be effective" and refused my money. I didn't give him the money, I said I would be willing to SPEND that much money. Before the shouting match was over, I was feeling ready to spend a lot more. I refuse to accept the image he created of me, and it is gone now.

Thank You Kindly, and Honestly. Thank You.



Although Skipt's idea of a restraining order is a GOOD one, to me, and I appreciate his cost estimate, I was told it wouldn't be really enforceable, so why bother. Although Skipt seems to think it might of been effective, I went with the professional. What is wrong with a phone consult? It went to the bottom of my 6 point list.



6 point list to fix problem:

1) Ask to have pics removed -- then I left it more or less alone for two months, so the issue could lose its emotional baggage with Locker. Then I asked again, and he flat refused.


2) Bring it to the public attention of the ST general population - didn't work, his buddies shouted down the more rational heads, like Bluering and Happigirl.

Thanks to Happygirl and Bluering and the others who took at least a LITTLE of my side on the issue. Even thanks to Jaybro, for his backhanded request. I DO appreciate the support. It was all I wanted.

3)Three is bring it to the moderator, who is the Owner. YOU BET. He fixed it, though he had to issue TWO EMAILS to get it done right, and not just transferred to a Canadian, who seems also to have changed his mind.


You don't get to find out what 4 and 5 were. They weren't needed.


So the Lesson here is : Make and Email to Chris Mac with the word "COMPLAINT" in the Subject line. He says he will look at whatever anybody wants and make appropriate judgements.

I am quite satisfied. I can live with the rest of the tripe.


THANKS CHRIS MCNAMARA! RAH!








Pate:

Your reviving the thread that Cosmic actually deleted at my request was immature and unwarranted. I can see no reason for you to have gotten involved. It was poor behavior, and again, I am disappointed with you.




Locker:

Your "PARTIAL REPOST of my words happens to completely misrepresent what I said, as you snidely admit, without actually admitting it. Lovely misrepresentation.

As far as Lockers misrepresentations of how I view Mormon relatives and employers, I remain the expert in things that affect MY life. YOUR LDS relatives, family and employers may not be surprised if you are portrayed as a cross dressing pervert, but MINE would be. And I intend that that never be seen. Thank you for understanding two months after I asked you to remove it. I really DO feel much better.


Excerpt: From Lockers post:

EDITED:

and FOR THE RECORD...

I AIN'T deleting SH!T...

Thank you for re-considering. I KNEW you would come around eventually.





BMACD :

Excerpted from his post:
Rokjox should pack his bags and logoff permanently

(...You are likely to get your wish...)

However for right now:

I can't believe you got involved in this. It wasn't ANY of your business. WHY you inciting stuff? What had I done to YOU?

Kunlun_shan actually CALLED ME out of the Blue, to ask me if he could intervene between Me, You and Locker. After a long talk on the phone, I said yes and thanked him. I don't know WHAT he may have said to you two, but he seemed a really decent fellow, and I doubt he buys too many shoe resoles from Locker, or if he does, I doubt that will change on account of this... but he told me he thought he KNEW YOU, and could ask you to butt-out. I said sure. Ain't talked to him since, but he is welcome to call me at any time.

PS, nice change of pictures, COOL mountain. Many copies of it too. None of your affair though.





Cosmic cragsman: That picture of locker behind the SUV doesn't bother me now of course, if he's happy, I'm Happy. But seeing you guys were asked to remove the similar picture with MY face on it by CM, it would seem that you are pushing your luck, and I can't imagine why. Its still a vulgar picture.

But it ain't none of MY business any longer. Push you luck all you want....





Blahblah:
Why does everyone assume that is legal to take other people's pictures and modify them and then republish them?

Isn't that clearly a "derivative work," the right of which to make is reserved exclusively to to the copyright owner? (See 17 U.S.C. Section 106) I know there are lots of artists who post to this site; I'm surprised they don't have a view as to whether their work can be appropriated by others without their permission.

And if the owner of this site is given notice that it is being used as a conduit to further copyright infringement and the owner refuses to prevent that, seems like it's liable for contributory infringement.

RJ should consider registering the copyright of some of his pictures before he posts them here, then post them, sit back and wait for the copyright infringement to occur, and then:
BAM, you're hit with a copyright infringement lawsuit, and he as the right to recover statutory damages and attorneys' fees...


...Maybe, that's why it would be extremely helpful for the copyright owner to have registered his works before the infringing activity began. That way he can recover statutory damages and, possibly, attorneys' fees.

Nevertheless, I'm not so sure that there is no economic damage. This site contains paid advertising, and based on the responses to the threads, the posts that contain apparently infringing photos are some of the most popular on this site. Therefore, the copyright infringement is being used to draw eyeballs, for profit. Not saying I agree with that, but I see the argument .
(...and other stuff similar...)

Thanks for the advice, I will consider your thought. What Locker doesn't realize is that NOWADAYS EVERYBODY in america looks to Tort law and Civil Lawsuits to resolve conflicts when one party REFUSES OUTRIGHT to comply with a reasonable and important request. This is AMERICA, LAND of the Lawsuit. America is the WORLD LEADER in Lawsuits!



But I have now removed ALL my pictures that had people in them. Its a SHAME, especially the 30 year old sequence of me and Peter DPG doing his climb Peter Meter. It was a GOOD sequence and the picture of Pete in 1976 or so, was VERY flattering to him, and took a LOT of effort to fix from the ruined print I had. But I can't accept that my friends images might be butchered as poorly as mine was. I never asked his permission to place his photo here, and I would be HORRIFIED if he someday came to me with a hack job made from that photo, and asked me where it came from.

Too bad, I expect MANY people may be re-assessing their use of photos on this web site. Locker should only Photoshop his paper, scissors, glue jobs on photos and faces he has PERMISSION to abuse. It would be much more decent of him. But I learn fairly fast, I pulled all my photos, and my dogs too. And that 35 year old Photo of me 60 foot out on lead on Flaky Foont, GPA, too. Too bad, that was a good lead. Photo looked good. No pro the whole way.

But I don't want to risk the "manipulation". Locker, would you consider asking people PERMISSION to hack up their pictures in the future?

Until then, I will be adding NO photos to this web site.

(...Moot Point...)

But, Thank You, Blahblah... I read your stuff all the time, its usually pretty good.


PS. BTW? Uh, LOCKER?? I intend to go back to that womans website and ask her if that is an aborted fetus or not. I am sure she may want to see if that is ACTUALLY HER photo that you have "CLAIMED" really is YOUR copyright NOW? Maybe that may help you decide just what to do with it in the meantime?

Just thought you'd like to know...






Dirtbag:

Thanks guy. You are pretty decent to make that comment on THIS slander fest thread.

Really appreciate it. Not too many people wanted to get involved in the 5 man screaming Chorus, at least singing counter tempo. That was nice. Helped me when I was feeling bad.



Willie:
Also thanks Willie. SOrry I called you a sissy. Glad you didn't fall apart like some here... You are OK with me after all this. Glad they didn't slag on you for it.




Klimmer: Special thanks to You. You have always been a good guy, and you keep me in new ideas, which is GREAT, and I appreciate it. You never bore me.




Kunlun_shan: 'Preciate the call guy, once I knew you weren't a shill of the opposition, I REALLY enjoyed talking to you. You got Heart and I understand that. Made me feel MUCH better. You are welcome to come to dinner, and my wife is a GREAT cook. No lie, keep my number, I can be a friend.




Werner:

Man you are ALWAYS on the right side of the fence. I just don't understand how I was SO afeered of you when we were in the dirt. I remember you better than any other face in the lot, and I ABSOLUTELY wanted to let you alone. ('Course, it might have been that you looked like a 160 lb. gorilla with a bad itch...) I really respect you. THanks.




James Doty: Don't know you, but I appreciate calling it as you see it. Good man.

I apologies for lumping you in with the Cali dog haters. We got lots of dogs here, and only one state dog law. A "dog at large" is one without a collar and tag. Any other law is a city ordinance. I got wound up. Love my dogs.




Skipt: Again! You REALLY got involved in this one. You are SO OFTEN wrong. Guess you are wrong agin. (About the lawsuit) SOrry.

I was Just checking my options. Cost me nothing. But I WOULD have filed a restraining order as Option 6 if I hadn't thought of a better idea. Thanks for the Idea. I was ANGRY, and willing to spend MONEY. (I'm not QUITE as broke as you think) But I thought about your fee schedule. Much cheaper than what I thought it would be.


Jaybro:
Hope it's just temporary

Thanks man. Sorry if I got heavy, I was feeling under the weather with all these guys thundering on about me. Its easy to be swinging in all directions and throw something in the wrong direction. Glad I didn't get you. I don't WANT to die...




Happygirl, You my Girl. THANKS. I'm Sorry These guys did to you what they did. If you need a favor, I may be able to help. Got family in Queens, they will do what I need. Tell me what you need, and if I can, you got it.

Pate said to you:
...why should any one pull pictures or posts "As a favor for you"?...

Pate, maybe because it the RIGHT THING TO DO for people? If you LEARNED THAT LESSON, you wouldn't be owning this thread, huh? Its also NICE to accept a REQUEST from a WOMAN???

You been a real disappointment Pate.




And Nita, Nothing need be said... I appreciate you standing for Happy against the Hyenas who attacked her.





Hardman Knott:
Thanks for sending me the Bachar CD so long ago. I lost it for a long while because my wife stuck it somewhere out of the package, and it didn't have any markings on it, so I didn't know I had it. Just found it. Very cool. Thanks

I didn't remove this post " http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.phptopic_id=918389&tn=0&mr=0 " about the Pescadero ledge, because I though EVERYBODY would know I was joking. I guess I ain't the only guy with a weak sense of humor.



Fattrad: Man, I got to say. You are a republican's republican. I can see you playing for two ball teams at the same game. Don't know WHAT to make of YOU.



Mark Hudon; You got good taste in Lockers "art" That judge picture WAS funny. I'd cream for sure if I saw HIM behind the bench!







If my use of the "F-bomb" so many times is distracting or offensive, I apologize. However it is pretty common here on ST. I was gettin REALLY angry as I had been turned down SO MANY TIMES in my request, that I was at the end of my rope -- ha-ha... Still, my apoligies to whoever I offended, I notice the autocensor did filter it...

And just so Locker and SKIPT Knows; I NEVER send anonymous e-mails. I don't even know HOW. (Don't you ALWAYS get a return address? ) WHY would I? I ain't shy. And I sign them with my name in almost every case. If somebody is threatening you anonymously, I would BE SCARED. SOMEBODY ELSE don't like you? You already know how I feel, I don't need to hide.

All The People I email, I am either talking to, or they email me. Isn't that what we DO here? Whats your BEEF? OF COURSE I was "trying to turn them against you". WHY wouldn't I?? (and it wasn't hard with some. See SOME of the OTHER people don't LIKE you EITHER!

Imagine THAT!







Thanks to all. I may take a few questions, but we got to keep it short. I am not long for this world. Thank GOD.

Got to go eat a Chili Dinner. You may talk among yourselves.

Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:18pm PT
Locker sez:
locker is taking over this forum"...

I post on ONLY a FEW threads...

yet I am...

"TAKING OVER"...





You got SEVENTEEN THOUSAND POSTS SINCE YOU BEEN BANNED!


You just post JUST on a FEW THREADS???



You GOT FIVE HUNDRED IMAGES you have "MANIPULATED" just since the Photo Directories where OPENED, WHAT?

TWO MONTHS AGO????


Yeah, Id say you are taking over. You got TWICE the Posts I done in FIVE YEARS! And I post a LOT since I been Retired.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:20pm PT

What happened to you when you were a kid???...

Good lord dude...



On another note...

GLAD you're feeling so much better...

ENJOY your dinner!!!...

;-)







EDITED:

"Yeah, Id say you are taking over"...

LOL!!!...

I love it dude...

keep it up...

;-)
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 09:26pm PT
Credit: Pate
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 09:28pm PT
Pate:

Your reviving the thread that Cosmic actually deleted at my request was immature and unwarranted. I can see no reason for you to have gotten involved. It was poor behavior, and again, I am disappointed with you.

Credit: Pate
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:30pm PT
"You got SEVENTEEN THOUSAND POSTS SINCE YOU BEEN BANNED!"...




keep that SH!T up and I'll have TWICE that many before the nights up...





and ALWAYS remember to protect the environment!!!...




and...










































Credit: locker
photo by BLITZO...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:33pm PT
"It was poor behavior, and again, I am disappointed with you."...





"Sorry Mommy"...










EDITED:

"I suppose I've "Said my piece" (and a Bag-O-chips)"...



I SWEAR I TRIED!!!...


just didn't last as long as I thought it "WUD"...


Sort of got another little bit of INSPIRATION from...


ABOVE...


;-)





locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:41pm PT

dude you are WARPED beyond fixing...




" OF COURSE I was "trying to turn them against you". WHY wouldn't I??"...




Why wouldn't you???...


WHY would you???...


Man, I didn't fuking email anyone (I did respond to those sent to me) or call anyone and try and get them to SIDE with me AGAINST you...

you're out there PAL...




















































WELCOME BACK!!!...



;-)






EDITED:

"Thank you for understanding two months after I asked you to remove it. I really DO feel much better."...


And you even THANKED me...

Such a "DECENT" man you are!!!...




there's that word again...



Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
I didn't remove this post " http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.phptopic_id=918389&tn=0&mr=0 " about the Pescadero ledge, because I though EVERYBODY would know I was joking. I guess I ain't the only guy with a weak sense of humor.


RokJox, you sound off on a peaceful soliloquy and want everyone to buy into what a rational, reasonable guy you are, but this statement exposes the real you. Liar.


Hardman Knott is correct about the things you write. When you look at the sum of the whole it really puts you into perspective.

You know, locker's posts are entertaining, self deprecating and very, very witty. Your posts are abrasive, opinionated, infuriating, rude, self centered, egotistical, mean spirited, full of made-up statistics and misinformed.

What's worse? hmmmmmmmmmmm....................

YOU disappoint ME, RokJox.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 09:51pm PT
And I post a LOT since I been Retired.

what about the LDS employers?
willie

Trad climber
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:55pm PT
Nobody likes to back down. Especially climbers. This thread should probably die soon for everyone's sake. I like you both in your own ways.

That said, a word of warning-

I'm pretty sure I caught something nasty from that Toyota!
Those fishnet rubbers are bunk!
Be careful out there!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
""Locker, some of your ps work is just plain sh#t"..."


















I think Locker takes that as a compliment!

fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Jan 31, 2010 - 10:03pm PT
Was DMT calling us some friendly tribe the other day?



The evil one
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 10:05pm PT
He was on ecstasy, doesn't count.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Jan 31, 2010 - 10:09pm PT
What I always find interesting are the ones that chime in and claim distaste for these "Meltdown" threads...

they complain in them...

then they come BACK to view it time and time again...

Interesting how that works...




Hard NOT to view this "Jerry Springer" sh!t, isn't it???...








Cosmic...

You are 100% CORRECT!!!...

"I think Locker takes that as a compliment!"...





IF anyone EVER thinks for a second that I am offended by their lack of like for my HACK sh!t, they'd be sadly mistaken...

I PUMP that sh!t out and don't care much about the quality of the image...

and people keep bringing up "Photoshop"...

I don't use Photoshop...

I use "Paint" that super weak program that is on EVERY computer...

DON'T have a "Drawpad"...

DON'T even have/use a "Mouse"...

I HACK the sh!t out on the little pad, on my heaping Laptop...

Nothing fancy here...


and DEFFINATLY zero "Photoshopping"...




Glad some of you like the crap...

Couldn't care less that the others DON'T like it...

Everyone has a right to their opinion...




Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 10:23pm PT
I KNEW you didn't use Photoshop- This ART is TOO GUD!
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
I'd recommend trying a new hobby for some of you guys, because climbing obviously isn't doing it for you anymore...oh yeah, that reminds me why I never bother looking at this site anymore.

From Websters:

Self-righteousness:
1) a feeling of smug moral superiority derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.

2)
Credit: Pate
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
Jan 31, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
It takes all kinds to make a village?

Dood, I think it was Oxy - X is soo last century. ;)
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 10:31pm PT
Me and Napmaster Snarl like the Ketamine.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 10:42pm PT

"I KNEW you didn't use Photoshop- This ART is TOO GUD!"













LOOKS like I'm gonna have to show you how "GUD"
Photoshop can do, Pate!!!

(EVIL GRIN)
luggi

Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
Jan 31, 2010 - 10:49pm PT
Credit: luggi


Hey Pate.....ya never know who will take aim at you......
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:10pm PT
Even though RJ and I have aired our differences on here, I would tie in with him tomorrow.

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
Hey Pate.....ya never know who will take aim at you......

That's pretty creepy luggi.

Please take that down because I am scared and offended by it and you reproduced my name w/o my permission.

Still, seriously, pretty creepy dude. sigh. (isn't that what you say?)

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:39pm PT

I HOPE this is Pate,
and I didn't Shoot one of his FRIENDS,































































by ACCIDENT!!!






















photo not found
Missing photo ID#143388
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 11:44pm PT
I am shocked and outraged.

But at least I'm not sticking my dick in a muffler.

Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
Yet.............
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Jan 31, 2010 - 11:47pm PT
Pate: " There ain't no muffler BIG enuf! Pfft"
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
That's right- see those slung hexes I climb with? They go hand in hand with HUGE BALLS.

edit: Look at that bizarro rack I'm sorting- some camalots, some nuts, two biners, aiders and ascenders, slung hexes. Even I'm sayin WTF?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 12:07am PT
"But at least I'm not sticking my dick in a muffler."











Oh Yeah???






















































Pics DON'T LIE!


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143398

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 12:08am PT
now THAT is some funny shit!!!!

just don't tell my Mormon boss.
I'm Rick James, Bitch

Sport climber
left side of a booty call
Feb 1, 2010 - 12:18am PT
Niggah done went and stuck his dick in da' muffler??? Whoo-eeeee! That muhfukker RokJox is one crazy white boy!

How do I know he is crazy???? Cuz I'm Rick James BITCH!!!!11169
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 12:22am PT
I just KNEW that RJ Bitch had to show up on this thread sooner or later!!!
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 12:25am PT
Enjoy Yourselves!
st_mini_me

Social climber
Olamola,NM
Feb 1, 2010 - 12:54am PT
time for a group hug everyone
Credit: flickr.com


at least it never got to this point! - http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2009/05/07/how-i-sued-a-craigslist-sex-troll/

..................."IT IS HEREBY ORDERED AND ADJUDGED," wrote Judge Joan B. Gottschall 30 months later — handing down $74,252.56 in legal fines to Fortuny. Three law firm associates had spent 129.2 hours (at $175 per hour) litigating his 2006 Craigslist prank, plus another 35 hours by the main attorney billed at $275 per hour. As part of the judge's award, Fortuny will have to pay all their legal fees — a total of $32,365.50 — and he'll even end up paying the extra costs accrued because he avoided their process servers.

"I hope that it demonstrates that claims (and attorneys) do exist that enable victims to pursue those who commit wrongful acts," says the victim's lawyer, Charles Mudd.

"Whenever I questioned 'why bother doing this', I just re-read the posts where Fortuny was taunting the victims who begged him to remove their information," says victim John Doe, "and that renewed my resolve." In the end, Fortuny's stubbornness is what led them to court. "He publicly demonstrated his unwillingness to negotiate with others, so I knew that only a hardball response would be effective and that direct contact with him would be a waste of time and tip him off to my plans."

Ironically, Fortuny was only fined $5,000 for "public disclosure of private facts" and "intrusion upon seclusion." The remaining bulk of the award — $35,001 — was for violating the plaintiff's copyright. "The Copyright Act provides for statutory damages from $750 to $35,000 per infringed work," says Mudd, but those damages "can exceed $35,000 up to an amount of $150,000 per infringed work where the conduct was willful." This means that ultimately, it was Fortuny's own "willful" conduct that increased the price he'd eventually have to pay, Mudd argues. "In general, Mr. Fortuny could have limited the amount of damages under the Copyright Act and could have significantly reduced the amount of attorney's fees throughout the course of this matter.

"He chose not to do so." ......
willie!!!!!

Ice climber
honolulu, hawaii
Feb 1, 2010 - 12:58am PT
Interesting.

I was gonna let pate have the last word cause it's his thread.

Die thread, DIE!

We've had our fun and suffering.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:14am PT
Wow.... just.... wow.


Well, I've always been a fan of Lockers work. I would never think to take offense to him screwing with me.

I always put my name and face on this site, because I should be held accountable to what I say. I like to think too that everyone on this site is an actual person, not just an avatar, but a man or woman typing on a keyboard somewhere not so far away. Thats why I've always preferred ST to RC.COM. The anonymity of that website has made everyone rougher around the edges, much too willing to cut someone down. Here, you don't know. They might just be someone you'd like. However most people use an anyonymous avatar to hide behind... whatever.

Maybe because of that, I think if someone asks you to pull some images of them, or to delete something you said about them, or anything that takes no effort but they ask for you should do it. It may not make sense for you, but they have their reasons. I would like to think that people would do the same for me, if for whatever reason I ask.


Now the issue of employers searching online and coming across this, well, I'm not sure what to tell you besides paranoia can spawn from overusing certain narcotics ;D


I don't have a horse in this race, so I want to stay out of it. But in the end, its frustrating that people can't just be cool.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:37am PT

"time for a group hug everyone"


















I






















CAN'T

























































help













































MYSELF!!!











































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143432


:)
willie!!!!!

Ice climber
honolulu, hawaii
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:57am PT
That's pretty darn good Cosmic!

Can anyone else smell the introspection inspired by this car-crash disaster?
Flaccid

Gym climber
U.S. of fukkin' A
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:02am PT
WHAT IS WITH THOSE GIANT STUPID F*#KING GAPS IN THE PAGE?

WHERE IS THE PHOTO OF THE GUY WITH HIS DICK IN THE PIPE? GONE?
willie!!!!!

Ice climber
honolulu, hawaii
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:09am PT
The gaps are a little annoying.

You can still check me out doin the SUV any time you want on the 121- page.

Stack of bibles, I WILL NOT BUMP THIS THREAD AFTER 12am AK TIME.
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:10pm PT
Bwahahahahahahahaha.....................the three apes, wonder how they climb. Bwahahahahahahahahaha



The evil one
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
Gdavis. While decent people would respect to rights and desires of others, decency has no hold over the lives or minds of a very vocal minority.



Look at the response Happygrrll got when she complained how the behavior of others had affected her. She complained that she was sick of seeing her actual name (when googled) brought up a series of posts of lowlifes speculating on her social life (so to speak). THAT is a very real and understandable complaint!

Did anybody apologies or offer to pull the post? No, they bitched that she had ever given them the ammunition to do such a thing.

They blamed the victim for their malfeasance. It was HER fault for sharing.

Hmmm.






Look above, see where hardguyknott deliberately posts my name next to my screen-name despite knowing full well I asked, as only one of two things I wanted, for people NOT to do that.

Hardman Knott: Will you please remove your post linking my screen name to my Birth name?

Lets see if it works. I will email him with the same request.





Consider Darrel Hattenns daughter. After he is gone, she comes here years later, looking for stories, pictures, friends of her father. Would anybody WANT her to see such a picture of him as the Picture I have complained of?

I certainly would Not. I want her to see good positive images of her father.

I have infant grandchildren who will be growing up long after I am likely dead. And at least one more coming. I repeat, I do NOT expect to leave such filth behind, and certainly not with MY face or name on it. It's repugnant and vulgar. I want my grand-daughter to see wholesome and happy images of her grandpa.






Consider my friends, whose pictures I used to post on here. GOOD guys. DECENT people. At least one seems to have become a preacher of some sort. I never asked any of them about posting their pictures on this site. Never occurred to me that I should. But how would THEY feel if a "manipulated" picture of them showed up someplace embarrassing to them, and it was a picture that I had posted innocently of them. I know I would feel VERY bad, that such a thing had happened with me having had some part in it, even an innocent part.

And once such a thing has been done, nobody can say where the images may end up.




AS a result of this realization, I have pulled every image that represents a recognizable face from Supertopo. And as another poster above has admitted, he will be unlikely to post such pictures. I am sure a LOT of decent people are reconsidering posting their or others photos on this site. THAT is the hidden destruction such behavior causes. The unknown number of historical or informational or ACTUALLY entertaining photos that are never seen because a SINGLE Buttplug cannot ask permission before ruining someone else's images.








ONE bad actor such as Buttplug can screw things up for EVERYONE. Even HE can't know where his deviated humor may end up or what harm it may cause. But HE doesn't care, because he thinks he can never be held accountable. THAT is the limit of HIS decency. He of course is WRONG. Butt until HE gets that, he is a menace to the decent people where ever he is allowed to post. Does ANYONE think he would be allowed on Rock-climbing .com? I think not, I think he has to post here, because anywhere else he would be thrown out as an undesirable.

I regret greatly ever taking advocacy for him after his banning. It was a MISTAKE on my part. I don't associate with such people in my life. He is clearly unable to learn from his mistakes, and clearly is a deviant personality, as he OFTEN demonstrates.

I would support his banning again. Far more than Aliester Crowly, Buttplug is a vulgar presence among the Supertopo community.







This site needs a moderator. Would a volunteer, from among the decent and respected people here, please stand up? It needn't be a "full time job". It need be only someone with the general consensus of the population, who will review complaints and behavior and apply a gentle (or not so gentle) guide for us to aspire to?

WE could vote on his or her honorable post on occasion, like on a confidence or no confidence basis.

I would accept the request of a Werner, a Karl Baba, Crimpergirl, Todd Gordon, Steve Grossman. We have a LOT of decent people who already spend a lot of time on this site. And who can be counted on to provide a minimalist approach to the battles that are waged here.

It would be an honor for the Member who took the role, and a substantial step up from the pit we are in now, where the lowest participant sets the standards. It would show that, as a group at least, we are a great group of people.

Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:22pm PT
RJ's running from the law...

Grandbabies, portraying yourself in a 'proper manner', is all hogwash.


Y'er on the lam...from someone.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
"Can anyone else smell the introspection inspired by this car-crash disaster?"




















YES.

The Photoshop program is MIGHTIER

than the PEN,

SWORD,

or KEYBOARD!




:)
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 01:25pm PT
From himself.

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 01:35pm PT
This site needs a moderator. Would a volunteer, from among the decent and respected people here, please stand up? It needn't be a "full time job". It need be only someone with the general consensus of the population, who will review complaints and behavior and apply a gentle (or not so gentle) guide for us to aspire to?

WE could vote on his or her honorable post on occasion, like on a confidence or no confidence basis.

I would accept the request of a Werner, a Karl Baba, Crimpergirl, Todd Gordon, Steve Grossman. We have a LOT of decent people who already spend a lot of time on this site. And who can be counted on to provide a minimalist approach to the battles that are waged here.

It would be an honor for the Member who took the role, and a substantial step up from the pit we are in now, where the lowest participant sets the standards. It would show that, as a group at least, we are a great group of people.

Credit: Pate

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:35pm PT
Hardman Knott: Will you please remove your post linking my screen name to my Birth name?

Lets see if it works. I will email him with the same request.

Done.

I too have a request...

Will you please stop acting like a whiney 5 year old?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:39pm PT
Moderation is for sissies.

If you don't
Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:39pm PT
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:41pm PT
Well, some of those who have made this thread such a lovely thing to enjoy are already chiming in.

predictable though.

They are blaming the poster for having a "problem" instead of a "Concern". Without knowing anything about the circumstances or details of my life, they are condemning the approach and the ideas behind them.


So lets say you are right. Lets pretend that I WAS once the individual you say I am, and that NOW I am in the witness protection program for doing a great good. I saved Supertopo from a great databomb that would have exploded everyones computer screen in their faces, and the Buttplug that created the data bomb is looking for me to co-habitate.


Or a girlfriend who wants to destroy my existing relationship with her memories of our incredible past life in Paris as an Apache Dance troupe.

What would be the difference?

You have no idea why, but decency would seem to suggest that complying with my fantasies would be a nice thing, and would cost you NOTHING.

Is decency such a difficult concept to you guys? Does offering the most basic respect as following a bare obvious request from a fellow Poster so impossible to do?
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:43pm PT
Rokjox,

The greatness of ST is that there is no moderator and the collection of unique individuals that have been drawn here. Don't let your personal sensibilities interfere with the magic.



The evil one
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:47pm PT
Here's a good old one,

A Buddhist walks up to a hot dog vendor and says, " make me one with everything".

Gets his hot dog and pays with a $20.

He waits a while, then asks, "where's my change" ?

The vendor replies, "change must come from within"......

Don't hold your breath for a moderator, you may turn blue........
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 01:50pm PT
Well, some of those who have made this thread such a lovely thing to enjoy are already chiming in.

predictable though.

Yes, you are extremely predictable RJ. This thread was on page 2 this morning, guess who bumped it back at 8:00AM Idaho time?
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:54pm PT
Rokjox,
I won't ever post a picture of you, but you have to admit that you have been borderline inappropriate (words, not images)with numerous people in various threads over the years. Words can easily be as harsh as pictures.
I have personally been amazed with the harshness of your online persona at times.
Numerous people have tried to point this out to you in threads long before this mess took off.
You are, in my opinion, much better at dishing out the words than taking flak in images.
I don't believe any of these nonsense images will ever hurt you in anyway. You just have a personal problem with them.

That said, I would take them out if you asked me to. But you certainly have a way of stirring up your own hornets nest.
If you can't see that part of the equation, then you are definitely missing something.


No, we don't need a moderator.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:54pm PT
Hardman Knott;


SHAME on you.
You DELETED a Post!!!
Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:55pm PT
'Paris as a Apache Dance troupe.'

It's an, not a.

Dude, this thread is way to long to read every word, but c'mon. Did the images you're pissed about originate from your computer?

If yes, then too bad. you posted an image of yourself in a public place. That's YOUR fault. If it bothers you, then let it bother you, but keep it to yourself. You put these images into the public realm, you messed up if you want to keep the Russian Mob from finding you.

OK, who can work their magic on this one?



Or this?



Lighten up man.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:57pm PT
Pate, now you're being the jackass.

A man pleads in the only way he knows how to have people remove images with his face on it that he finds embarrassing, offensive, etc, and you call him a crybaby and the people who stand up for him wet blankets because they're ruining your fun.

That sort of behavior is no better than Rokjox's.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:58pm PT

"Does ANYONE think he would be allowed on Rock-climbing .com?"...





I AM a member of RC.n00b...

What an IDIOT!!!...








and Cosmic...

That MONKEY shot of the THREE (3) of us is PERFECT!!!...

LOL!!!...



Wasn't there a TV show with Chimps in it with one CHIMP(CHUMP???) being named "Lance"???...





The dude sure is on the DEFFENSE for "SUM" reason...

Eluded to some secretive situation that is the PROBLEM...

Some "CUD" be right with it being for LEGAL reasons...

















and the BOTTOM LINE...


ALL this EMAILING and CALLING and CRYING to the SITE OWNER and DOUCHEBAG...

NEVER took the time to CONTACT me directly...

What a fuking IDIOT...

and DON'T go on about how you "ASKED" me HERE, PAL...

Because IF it REALLY is a SERIOUS matter, I would think you would have had the DECENCY to CONTACT me DIRECTLY and EXPLAIN it to me...

I WOULD have most likely COMPLIED...

But nooooooooooooo...


you HAD to be a fuking "DRAMA QUEEN", an as#@&%e, an IDIOT, a WUSS, a BABY and "GUD" knows what else...


ALL this sh!t you have BROUGHT ON yourself DOUCHEBAG...

You are one HOSTILE MoFo...

and it SHOWS here OFTEN...









EDITED:

"A man pleads in the only way he knows how"...



Must NOT know how to EMAIL or CALL me then...

SURE seemed to KNOW how to CALL/EMAIL a ton of others...
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
Yet, when I used words, however stinging, they are restricted to a screen name, and are not likely to leave this site to harm anyone in the real world.


And Yes, occasionally I have said things that need to have been tempered or not even said.




I am part of the problem.


I have started a thread on this "ST needs a moderator", to adress this issue.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1075407/Supertopo_Needs_a_Moderator



Edit: Thank you for the English lesson, I have corrected my horrendous mistake, and added a "n" to the "a" making it "an Apache Dance Troupe".



And Locker, I DID ask you several times in different ways. Are you saying that you DIDN'T KNOW I wanted that image removed?



And Fattrad Brought this thread back to the front page, at 10:15 or thereabouts California time, easily five minutes before I posted on it. That would be about 11:15 Idaho time.

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:03pm PT


"I am part of the problem."...

At least we AGREE on something...

your LACK of HUMOR is the OTHER part...




I'll take 1% for the WIN, Chuck!!!...
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:05pm PT
Nice Rok, that's the most moderate post you've put up about the whole thing.
Good job.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
locker it's LANCELOT LINK SECRET CHIMP


I'm just remembering that - I didn't look it up.
Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:07pm PT
BTW, this recent discourse seems like moderation to me.

We don't need a specific moderator, let the group consensus decide what is right and what is not.

Self moderation.
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
I am going to try to be better.

But I will be leaving soon.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:09pm PT
"And Locker, I DID ask you several times in different ways. Are you saying that you DIDN'T KNOW I wanted that image removed?"...


TRUTH???...

Yes!!!...

I actually DID NOT know that it SERIOUSLY bothered you that much, and by the time I did, you were being such a fuking BABY there was NO WAY I was going to back down...

You NEVER emailed me with the REQUEST you CLAIMED you did...

You NEVER called me (But how many have you CALLED these past few days???)...

Etc...


ALL you had to do was EMAIL me DIRECTLY and EXPLAIN in a DECENT and RESPECTFUL way...

I am NOT an ASSHOLE...

I JUST play one REAL...

"GUD"...

;-)










EDITED:

"BTW, this recent discourse seems like moderation to me.

We don't need a specific moderator, let the group consensus decide what is right and what is not.

Self moderation."
...


FOR THE RECORD...

It was NOT "self Moderation"...

Dude took it to the TOP...

The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:09pm PT
I didn't remove this post "..." about the Pescadero ledge, because I though EVERYBODY would know I was joking. I guess I ain't the only guy with a weak sense of humor.

Apply the same rules that you are asking Locker to apply. I for one could easily tell that Locker's photo was a joke, but I could not tell from the post in question that you were joking.

And apparently the man who's livelihood most affected by your words, Russ, couldn't tell you were joking, either.

occasionally I have said things that need to have been tempered or not even said.

It's not too late to remove that scathing post about Fish. Anyone with admin access can get in there and delete it. If you wish to be treated with respect, live by your own rules. Make that post go away - even if it requires paying someone for their time to get in there and remove it.

Edit: And apologies if you reaction is that this is none of my business. It is my business as a part of this "community" to help keep it a decent place to hang out.

Edit2: No doubt I've said things I regret, too. It's quite true that everyone makes mistakes.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
"OK, who can work their magic on this one?"














I could, Ricardo,

























BUT





































You might get









































OFFENDED.





Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:13pm PT
RJ,
I totally disagree with a lot of your opinions, but nobody is asking you to leave!

Just take a deep breath and then keep inciting me with your conservative agenda!

Don't leave.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:13pm PT
C'mon Cosmic, hook the man up.





HE









ASKED













FOR
























IT!
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:14pm PT
Rokjox,

Your request to have the pictures removed is legitimate and should be taken seriously by the poster, however I think you might want to reconsider your participation on ST. This is a tough group, no holds barred, you've got to have a thick skin and based on your past comments and this recent incident, I really don't think this is the place for you.


The evil one
Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:15pm PT
My skin is pretty thick.
































Do your worst, You'd have to do something illegal to offend me.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:26pm PT


You have YET to answer me...

WHY did you NOT take the time to CONTACT me directly via phone/email/snailmail or have "Crack Annie" drop off the message???...

You SURE have made a HUGE effort these past couple of days to get YOUR way...

Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 02:33pm PT
Pate, now you're being the jackass.

A man pleads in the only way he knows how to have people remove images with his face on it that he finds embarrassing, offensive, etc, and you call him a crybaby and the people who stand up for him wet blankets because they're ruining your fun.

That sort of behavior is no better than Rokjox's.
Credit: Pate
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 02:37pm PT
From Webster's:

douche |doō sh |

noun
1) a shower of water : a daily douche.
• a jet of liquid applied to part of the body for cleansing or medicinal purposes.

2)
Credit: Pate
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
WHY did you NOT take the time to CONTACT me directly via phone/email/snailmail or have "Crack Annie" drop off the message???...


...I don't know your drug addicted hooker girlfriend...


I made the attempt. You KNEW I wanted it gone. I do NOT have your phone number, and I don't want it. Were I to Phone you, you could claim I made all sorts of statements, that I didn't, just like you do now. You admitted earlier that you "may" have forgotten that I emailed you.



Also another false accusation is that I "called all sorts of people" about you.

The only phone call I made about you was to Chris Mac, and that was when an e-mail wasn't answered very quickly. E-mail here seems to have problems...


I did RECEIVE several Phone calls, Because MY name is well known in this community and has been since 15 minutes after my first ever post, almost five years ago. SEVERAL people called me, and commiserated with me, and I appreciate that from them. They were decent people, and kind. SOME even called YOU I was told, and YOU REFUSED AGAIN, even when THEY asked you to remove your vulgar and offending posts.


EVERYBODY else knew I was serious!


So don't get all "white spaces" over how you just "didn't know I was serious" (!!!!)


(Locker sez:)
I am NOT an ASSHOLE...

I JUST play one REAL...

"GUD"...


As to whether or not you are an as#@&%e, that is a matter of opinion, and best not left to your apparent discernment in any case. After all, your Logo and Totem is a Blue Butt Plug. Your ACT has me convinced. You should be on a STAGE.

Leaving Town.


(Your REAL name, I don't have, "Locker". Or your address, for snail mail, which might not be very good, as you seem to have posted you are MOVING to Colorado? Or Nevada? Either way, I don't care.

Which was ANOTHER reason you didn't receive a cease and desist order. Not the only one however, as has been discussed above somewhere. But I am wanting to let my other options to a moderator rest, in THIS thread.

I got NO interest in following you around or writing you letters. ONE request should have been enough, and MANY were not.)








To the other poster:


OK. I will take your link to the Pescadero's wall cot (don't want to mention names or products, I said I will not, and I will try) and I will ask that it be removed. But in my defense, I will say that at the time that I posted that post, that thread was languishing. After I posted my tongue-in-cheek review, that thread took off, and several posters came forward to say how they liked their examples of the product. And some came forth and said that certain parts of my post were perhaps technically correct, but acceptable problems as once they got their folding climbing cots, they were acceptable to them.


Sometimes a good enemy is more valuable to a campaign that five lukewarm endorsements.

But that subtlety seems lost in some circles.


But I am going to take time out right now and email a request to remove the post from that thread, once I find your link.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:01pm PT
hey Blowboy...

I call BULLSH!T!!!...

Read what you wrote...

EDITED IN:

" Were I to Phone you, you could claim I made all sorts of statements, that I didn't, just like you do now"

You are thinking FOR me and FABRICATING a situation that DID NOT occur...

you can have NO IDEA what I would have done or said...

since YOU never called!!!...

As for the EMAIL???...

Yep! I wrote that it was possible that I forgot...

ALSO wrote that is was NOT...

PROBABLE...


But now I will say it for you to read CLEARLY...

YOU DID NOT EMAIL ME...

But you could have...

and MAYBE should have...

As for finding my phone number and or calling???...

How hard could that be???...

Think about it...

let the "GLUE" lead you...




The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:04pm PT
Haha! I expected as much. Thanks for making my point, Pate!
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
I will never phone you. Don't want to waste the dime, and don't want the possibility that you say I am making "Harassing Phone calls", like "someone" was claiming. It "didn't occur" because I DIDN'T call you. I like to make things I don't like IMPOSSIBLE to occur.

I want no personal contact with you whatsoever.




And let me say right now, in Public, that...

..."you are not to create any images of me or from any picture you may have taken of me, from me or from any website at all".

I would prefer it that way.

That should be sufficient notice. I hope its CLEAR. I have no need to jump through your hoops. You IGNORE private communications.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 03:06pm PT
no problem bro.

from Webster's:

smug |sməg|

1) adjective ( smugger, smuggest)
having or showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements.

2)
Credit: Pate
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
"I will never phone you. Don't want to waste the dime, and don't want the possibility that you say I am making "Harassing Phone calls", like "someone" was claiming."...

Well then...

HOW MUCH of an EFFORT did you REALLY make BEFORE you started all the CRYING and whining and such???...

Would it have REALLY been WORTH it to "SUE" me and ALL this other BS you're pulling???...

Rather than a SIMPLE...

email or phone call to ME...

DIRECTLY???...



It's in your HEAD, dude...

You're putting words in my mouth that NEVER happened...

You DIDN'T even TRY...




EDITED:

"Don't want to waste the dime"...

and yet you were supposedly WILLING to spend 1000's...

You're a fuking JOKE dude...

No wonder no one wanted to hang out with you...

"back in the day"...

It had NOTHING to do with being a "Four eye'd" glasses wearing person...

It's because you're a PRICK...

;-)

Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:14pm PT
Its MY decision how I spend my money, isn't it.


And EVERYBODY knew what I wanted, SO DID YOU.









STZZO, I can't find the link you object to about the Pesky cot.

Did you delete it? Please repost, it's buried pretty deep, and I don't recall the link, only that its out there somewhere.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
Prick definitely trumps Glasses
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:28pm PT
"Its MY decision how I spend my money, isn't it."...


WANT "Crack Annies" number???...

You OBVIOUSLY ain't getting ANY...



EDITED:


you were SUPPOSEDLY worried about how a potential employer would take those images...

IF I were you...

I'd WORRY more about ALL this HOSTILE, VILE, CRUDE, RUDE etc... stuff you WRITE...

MIGHT go...


Because like a few have written on ST already...

it's you PERSONALITY that comes to QUESTION...




EDITED:

PS...

I've ACRCHIVED it ALL...

have your potential employer contact me DIRECTLY for copies...


locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 03:53pm PT



WOLFBOY BUMP:


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143530
...



JUST a REMINDER of the "GUD" ole days...
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:04pm PT

"OK, who can work their magic on this one?"














REMEMBER, Ricardo,







YOU





did






give me















PERMISSION!!!

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143537


HEEY, that's Red Rocks, Ricardo.

Since I will be living there shortly,
you and I will have to do some climbing there.

Since it looks like you are built for it, you can PACK in
ALL the heavy gear!!!
Flaccid

Gym climber
U.S. of fukkin' A
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:06pm PT
IT IS ALL CLEAR NOW. THE ROKJOX LIFE STORY. F*#KING SAD MATE.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=479014&tn=40
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 04:10pm PT
I am poor, really, and cannot afford much medical care or prescriptions. I use booze, weed and occasionally self hypnosis, when I can focus.


RokJox, that was 2 years ago.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:11pm PT
"I am poor, really, and cannot afford much medical care or prescriptions"...

~~~ Rokjox, 2007



LOL!!!...

and dude WAS going to SUE me???...


EDITED:

fuk Pate!!!...

you NAILED the SAME one I bumped into...



LOL!!!...












EDITED:

"anti social" people are just that...

Anti Social...

Seems the "Anti Social" behavior is kicking in and rather than "Reach out", he's "Acting out"...

drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
Pate, you should thank ROX-

you finally have a thread over 50 posts!

Locker too- you're honing your manip skills here.

Love the meltdown threads!
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
You've been asleep at the wheel jefe. I've got a few in the 100's.

Not everyone tosses anchors like you!
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:20pm PT
Locker.


Weren't you asked TWICE BY Chris Mac Himself to remove your image? WHY did it take TWO TIMES?


And WHY are you still posting a picture CLEARLY of the SAME image and still CELARLY aimed at ME?


Is it because you cannot take ANYBODIES request to Back Off?

Because you are CLEARLY showing disrespect, not at ME but at the OWNER of this site, who ASKED you TWICE to STOP what you are STILL DOING!

Get a clue. Try to be decent. Try even if you don't know what decency and respect really mean.


I'm trying....














Richardo (misspelling purposeful).


I owe you a special apology for past slights. I got over heated that time. I actually do hope you forgive me.




But my time here is almost done. I started "Rokjox" as a sockpuppet, a marionette or Ventriloquists Dummy, five years ago, to tell a single story.

I had so much fun, and that story was so well recieved, that I allowed him to continue his stories.

But the "Rokjox" puppet has trouble telling many stories, like the years I spent as a cowboy. The words just don't come out of his little wooden mouth very well. I havn't wanted to tell any other stories here for a year or more. And because of Locker and this thread, I will never post another picture here again. I had wanted to add several really OLD guys photos who I climbed with, guys who were climbing in the 60's and I overlapped with a little.

I could never do that to them here, now. Because of Locker and the attitude that once a picture is posted HE owns them.



"Rokjox" has had almost a continuous Five year run. Not bad for a puppet. He FAR outlived anything I ever thought he would have done.


But Honestly? I am sick of Locker and his vulgar vanities, and his Sycophants that rule on this site through vulgarity and shouting down every quiet voice has sickened me.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 04:22pm PT
wow.

















now THAT'S creepy.













I though he just had other PEOPLE in there, but apparently there is a marionette too.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:22pm PT

Hi Locker,

First off, i am psyched you have been such an active part of the supertopo forum. The images you create are hilarious.

Second, I have been approached by Lance that he is bummed about two of those photos (listed below). I generally try to stay as far away as possible from this type of stuff. but he seems to have a reasonable request for you to remove just two images. I would really appreciate it if you did remove them. We all share such a passion for climbing and I like to see things kept positive between folks on the forum.

Thank you,


 Chris McNamara
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
I'll vouch for the authenticity of the above.
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:24pm PT
well...........






















































































































don't let the door slap you in the ass.
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:28pm PT

survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:28pm PT
Rok,
This is you advocating against censorship of any kind.

Stop ragging on me about what I (deleted) for relaxation and pleasure. I make the points here about it because this is a forum that hasnt been censored yet and so I can dare to tell it like it is, as can we all.(deleted) is a VERY political statement and this forum is one of the last remaining bastions of freedom of the press and speech, MUCH restricted, despite the US Constitution. It (deleted) has very little to do with my life external to my friendships as you can bet I cannot admit to its (deleted) in my secret idenity as mild mannered > (name witheld to protect my freedom of speech (??WTF!!)
Liberty (!!??) and association.

C'mon man, lighten up!
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:29pm PT
Flaccid: thank you SO much for bringing that old post up.

It OBVIOUSLY isn't the case right now is it?


I was depressed about trying to live within my means. Turns out I was just the Canary in the Coal Mine. EVERYBODY lost vast sums of money very shortly since then. My industry (engineering) is a leading reflector of economic hard times. That was just before the sh#t hit the fan EVERYWHERE in the WORLD.


Still, I must of had a couple buckets of money SOMEWHERE hadn't I?

Even in THAT old post, I had TWO houses and I had put $35,000 in CASH down on one of them? I still have the houses...

Do YOU have $35,000 in CASH?


(much information deleted about how well I am doing right now... Nobodies business but my own, really. But assume I have worked a lot of issues out, and I am NOT on the streets...)



And I have OTHER things going in my favor. DO YOU, who can't find the caps lock, do YOU have anything?
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:30pm PT

For the RECORD...

As soon as C Mac "Reqested"...

I COMPLIED...

and NOTICE...

ONLY the TWO images COMPLAINED about...

NO OTHERS!!!...







EDITED:

"It OBVIOUSLY isn't the case right now is it?"...



IN MY OPINION it's "OBVIOUS" that you are a LIAR and a MANIPULATER...



"I received a couple buckets of money SOMEWHERE haven't I?"...

Seriously DOUBT it...
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:33pm PT
locker and rox, cream of the crop? or jizz on the floor? you decide...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:34pm PT
"DO YOU who can't find the caps lock, do YOU have anything?"...



Does three gallons of GLUE count???...





EDITED:

"locker and rox, cream of the crop? or jizz on the floor? you decide..."...


Better THIS way...


"locker and rox, cream of the crop? or GLUE on the floor? you decide...
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:35pm PT

BRAT!








LOOK what you've done!!!



































Flaccid

Gym climber
U.S. of fukkin' A
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:38pm PT
ROKJOX:
I got to evict my son-in-law this week, and am in the process of finding out how. I actually am waiting right now for the phone to ring, talking to a new attorney.

Renting property is a lousy deal from all perspectives. Landlords get screwed all the time, and they have money, so politicians make laws that favor the landlords, then landlord scammers come in and use the laws to screw the tenants.

IM ON YOUR SIDE MAN. YOU HAVE HAD A TOUGH HAND DEALT IN LIFE.
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:43pm PT
frootloops
frootloops
Credit: d-know


edit: for no caps lock.
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:45pm PT
While the above quoted post, offering support for Locker may have reflected my ideas in the past

It wasn't about Locker.
It was between you and LEB and it was about a plant.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:49pm PT

"Because you are CLEARLY showing disrespect, not at ME but at the OWNER of this site, who ASKED you TWICE to STOP what you are STILL DOING!"...

~~~ Rokjox, today...


again with the LIES and MANIPULATIONS...



here is the ENTIRE email from C Mac, AGAIN...


"Hi Locker,

First off, i am psyched you have been such an active part of the supertopo forum. The images you create are hilarious.

Second, I have been approached by Lance that he is bummed about two of those photos (listed below). I generally try to stay as far away as possible from this type of stuff. but he seems to have a reasonable request for you to remove just two images. I would really appreciate it if you did remove them. We all share such a passion for climbing and I like to see things kept positive between folks on the forum.

Thank you,


Chris McNamara"
...
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
sorry for askin rox, but are you working yet?

on that old thread (2007) i gave you some idears. did you actually look at them? just think, you could have been two years further in getting your degree.


edit-
you could always glue shoes, something tells me you might have what it takes....
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
Sorry, I am trying to hold down two threads at once.


I will delete my comments above.

But I suppose then that I DONT quite get your point?

What was it again?







Locker:
So Locker did you remove BOTH images? I think I listed the Fetus image also. Why have you not removed that?


Do I need to ask You Again?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:55pm PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#143576
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 04:55pm PT

"So Locker did you remove BOTH images? I think I listed the Fetus image also. Why have you not removed that?"...

That WAS NOT one of the ones you...

"REQUESTED"...

But if you "WUD" like and you ASK me AGAIN...

POLITELY???...

we'll see...


EDTIED:

"Do I need to ask You Again?"...

YEP!!!...

but BEST to do it in a "DECENT" way or ELSE!!!...

LOL!!!...
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Feb 1, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
Watch out.....Ya might get "whuped".


Or knott.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 05:27pm PT
While the above quoted post, offering support for Locker may have reflected my ideas in the past

It wasn't about Locker.
It was between you and LEB and it was about a plant.




That's about the funniest thing I've heard in a long time!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 05:31pm PT
for the record and because I DO in fact "LUV" this site/forum and RESPECT C Mac...

I have removed ALL of the manipulated IMAGES of RokWuss...



(there MAY be one or two I missed, but I WILL go back and check LATER)...






RE-EDITED:



skipt

Mountain climber
Washington
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:14pm PT
Dear Lance Lynch aka Rockjox,

Go and screw yourself. Keep your emails to yourself.

I don't care if you want me to delete posts I have written about you.

You have been rude, condescending and extremely obnoxious to me in
the past.

You name is Lance Lynch, you live in Boise and you need to quit
asking (demanding) me to do anything for you.

Come at me with your lawyers little boy. I relish putting you on the
stand for discovery.

I would ask you in detail to discuss the drug sale business you
admittedly took part in. The one you say gave you profits that you
never paid taxes on.

Just so we don't have any misunderstanding: Don't you ever email me
nor contact me in any way again.

Do we understand each other?


Skip
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:19pm PT
Right on Skip!!!...





EDITED:

so it CONTINUES behind "Closed doors" so to speak...

he's now emailing people and trying to CONTROL them, too???...

What in the FUK is the matter with that dude???...


LOL!!!...

And he wrote that I was "trying to take over ST"...

Hell...

He's trying to totally CONTROL it...

He THINKS he is the MODERATOR...








EDIT:

The following photo IS NOT related to this THREAD...

It is TOTAL...

"thread drift"...


Credit: locker
(the photo posted does not represent anyone on Super Topo)...

;-)

Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:25pm PT
skip,

thats a pretty low post IMHO. while rox may have pissed some people off is that really necessary? seriously?

hell, locker's addled brain and juvenile pics offer less than rox's posts, in general.

maybe a mod IS necessary to protect the idiots from themselves...
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:33pm PT

perfect fodder for another manipulation...

"locker's addled brain and juvenile pics"...

Gene

Social climber
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:35pm PT
Perhaps, maybe, it's time to back off and everyone return to their corners.

Don't see much chance for a resolution here.

I get dizzy going in circles. Maybe a tad of respect for each other, deserved or knott, might be a GUD thing?

Call it a day, K? Nothing good will come out of this the way it's going.

'Nuff?

gm

EDIT: Following post appeared while i was writing.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:39pm PT


It's one thing that he go after me...

Now apparently he's doing the same sort of stuff to someone else...

Seems to me if he doesn't like the sh!t he's getting...

he really shouldn't be doing the stuff he is...



EDITED:

and it WILL...

"resolve"...










GENE EDIT:

you got a "GUD" heart dude...





Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 08:41pm PT
skip,

thats a pretty low post IMHO. while rox may have pissed some people off is that really necessary? seriously?

hell, locker's addled brain and juvenile pics offer less than rox's posts, in general.

maybe a mod IS necessary to protect the idiots from themselves...

hawkeye- that's pretty easy to say when you aren't getting emails in your inbox. Let me tell you, they aren't short and they aren't nice. MYOB maybe.
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:47pm PT
I got no idea what is setting Skipt off.

I got several hundred emails in my out and in box, but I don't offhand see ANY EVER to or from Skipt. I don't think I have his email addy, and I keep every one I get.


Somebody shitting on somebody using my name? Because I absolutely haven't sent him anything in MONTHS if EVER?



EDIT:
OOps, just got another email, I'll see if its HIM.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:47pm PT
pate, understood. i dont have a clue what is in someone's inbox. if Rox aint smart enough to frickin realize that an email can be posted for the world to see, then perhaps someone ought to post some. that shuts them up real fast.

from an outside observer's perspective seems as though skip's post was below the belt...

you guys seem to be egging him on (hell i have done that too).

i think you all have proved whatever point it is that you are making. i got it, rox can dish it out but can't take it.

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:52pm PT
Stop screwing with the Moderator, Locker, or he will delete your posts!







































































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143648
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 08:54pm PT
The problem is everyone gets it but Rox, and the guy will have the last word or die trying. These threads have both sunk down on the list, t his one made it to page 2, and Rox has resurrected them both with mean spirited, crazy rants.

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:58pm PT


check this out...

He'll most likely go back and change it real soon...


"I don't think I have his email addy, and I keep every one I get."

~~~ Rok


"Because I absolutely haven't sent him anything in MONTHS"...

~~~ Rok


how does that WORK again???...
Gene

Social climber
Feb 1, 2010 - 08:58pm PT
You know that roadkill is dead before you discover it.

Leave him alone for a while. This has gone on long enough.

Whacha think?

OK, everybody. Points made. Where do we go from here? An endless swirl into the bottom of the tank?

gm
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:01pm PT
Fattrad brought it off of page two, not me. Check your times Pate, I pointed this out hours ago when you last said that.






Skipt: I have not sent you any emails in months, if EVER.


I AM NOT SENDING YOU EMAILS, SKIPT. IF THERE ARE ANY IN YOUR BOX THAT ARE ANONYMOUS OR SAY THEY ARE FROM ME, THEY ARE NOT.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
ok cosmic...that is the first, uhh, "manipulation" that made me laugh...


scary thing is lockers smile there.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:05pm PT

"scary thing is lockers smile there."...


that'n's cause'd it'n were so TIGHT!!!...

Gene

Social climber
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:05pm PT
So much for my Nobel Peace Prize.



Carry on if you must.

gm
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
Locker quit editing my posts, they are clear enough as they are. I looked through my email address book and I don't see any addresses that are listed "SKIPT@whatever"


MANY of the emails I get have actual names on them, and I don't think I know Skippys actual name, at least it doesn't come to mind.




I don't think I have EVER sent him an EMAIL, but if I did, it was some time ago, not just days or weeks, but I can't THINK of any ever.

If HE IS GETTING EMAILS SAYING THEY ARE MINE OF ARE ANONYMOUS THEY ARE NOT FROM ME.



I DID just get another one.... but It wasn't from skippy.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
"Locker quit editing my posts"...

CLUE...

QUIT trying to CONTROL me...

I will GLEEN(sp) anything you write anytime I so choose...

this is an OPEN forum and I can QUOTE whatever I see fit to...
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:17pm PT
Locker;

If you HAVE deleted all images of me that you have "manipulated",

Thank You.

That was what I asked a long time ago, many, many posts back. Had you done that a loong time back, a lot of water would have gone under this bridge unnoticed. And my fingers would be an inch longer right now.

Problem is when you edit my posts, you LIE with them.


Now if you can just hold your peace, I will try and find an ending to my posting. PLEASE don't make any other images with my pictures or my face? OK?

EVER.


"Heroes" is on.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:26pm PT

Quoting you DIRECTLY does NOT make a LIE...


Maybe if you really WERE a "DECENT" person, this would have never had to happen...

and THAT is the REAL truth...

You tear into people with such hostility...

the things you write in emails (I have read some)...

Dude, I joke around a lot, maybe too much for some...

but I never do the sh!t you do...

and I for damned sure would NEVER pull some wuss ass move and complain...

you know damned well that those photo's would NEVER cause you ANY sort of HARM...

Why would they???...

Unless you brought it upon yourself...

Which you DID...




EDITED:



"Locker;

If you HAVE deleted all images of me that you have "manipulated",

Thank You."
...


oh yeah...

you're certainly welcome...















Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:32pm PT
Yes. I'm GLAD we can agree on that.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:40pm PT

On what???...

That IF you were a decent person, none of this would have come about???...



If so...

I DEFFINATLY agree...
L0CKER

Social climber
State of Confusion
Feb 1, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
""Heroes" is on."














SAVE the








CHEERLEADER,














and SAVE the















WORLD!













photo not found
Missing photo ID#143658
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 10:03pm PT

a little "GLUE" another shoe...

and hey...

wait a minute!!!...



there's an IMPOSTER aboard...

Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 10:04pm PT
Yep, heroes is on. Time to go.

Whats that? The picture my wife took when we were visiting Werner and Merry in the spring?







So locker, your promise lasted TEN MINUTES.



What is wrong with you? Delete it and quit. I really don't want your working on me. You said that was over.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 10:05pm PT
that ISN'T me you IDIOT...


EDITED:

uh...

didn't you READ this???...

"there's an IMPOSTER aboard..."...










EDITED:

Just wanted to SAVE this one:


"So locker, your promise lasted TEN MINUTES.



What is wrong with you? Delete it and quit. I really don't want your working on me. You said that was over."...




"He's taking a Hero's break. In his mind, he is one of them."...

~~~ Pate, time ukn...



Captain...or Skully

Social climber
You wanted to!
Feb 1, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
Haha!
The old Fake Locker imposter is Back!
too funny.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 10:24pm PT
This thread just got even better, I didn't think it was possible!
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2010 - 10:42pm PT
LEB has tainted the other thread, so I'm going to do all my RJ hunting here.


He's taking a Hero's break. In his mind, he is one of them.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Feb 1, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
I love how senses of humor that were immature and annoying in the adult adolescent phase of "Piton Place" have become immature and sharpened with age.

Screw top Boone's farm Strawberry Hill left in the wine cellar for years.........

Credit: "Piton Place" - D. Hatten
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 11:28pm PT
I see your point. The fake locker.



Didn't catch it. Thanks for pointing it out. I wonder if he is sending Skippy E-mails pretending to be me.


Maybe its just a bunch of people hate skippy, and its got nothing to do with me. Screwing with him in my name. Taking the opportunity I represent.
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful British Columbia
Feb 1, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
SHUT THE F*#K UP YOU PUSSY
SHUT THE F*#K UP YOU PUSSY
Credit: bmacd

photoid=143666
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 1, 2010 - 11:37pm PT

"Thanks for pointing it out"...

~~~ Rok, 2010

uh...

yer welcome!!!...

Credit: locker
...
L0CKER

Social climber
State of Confusion
Feb 1, 2010 - 11:55pm PT
This thread is getting real




NAPPY.


















NAPPY, the MODERATOR of the WORLD!

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143695
Rokjox

Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
Feb 1, 2010 - 11:59pm PT
the single most hateful, mean, brain-fried person on
the site. He adds no value. Maybe he'll get the permanent boot eventually.

That is so good I'm cross posting it.

(From an Email I got, from someone's fan.)

Wonder who they are thinking of?

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:13am PT


"Wonder who they are thinking of?"...

gee wizz...

let's see...








dude...

you're fuking killing me over here...

it's not about who likes ME more or less than YOU...

It's about YOU being a fuking WUSS and a CONTROL freak...

Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:16am PT


Jesus Wept!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:34am PT
...



EDITED:

"For what it's worth, I was considering hiring ----- , but have certainly changed m mind browsing this site. Not because of some obvious photo hacks, but the disproportionate reaction to them. The relentless ranting, the threats of legal actions... It hardly seems decent. I can't imagine the work environment he would create after some perceived slight."...



Brought over from the "ST needs a Mod" thread...



That about sums it up as to how it most likely would really go should a potential employer read his stuff...

As for my manipulated image???...

ANY chance it would keep him from being hired???...

WHY would it???...



Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 09:18am PT
The email Rox posted above is obviously from the "women" he has been talking about, and from the tone I'd say LEB.

Nice one Rox.













Your still crazy.
LEB

climber
PA
Feb 2, 2010 - 09:49am PT
For the record, while Rox and I have exchanged many emails through the years, I have never even once forwarded any email to him. I don't even know which email you are referencing but you can be sure that any email Rox has ever received from me did not contain any text written by another person.

Now you can take it or leave it - believe it or not - it matters not one iota to me.

Rox is a very decent person. I have known him for approximately five years now and consider him to be an "online friend" for whatever that is worth. He gets a tad bent out of shape over wolves but, hey, we all have our little idiosyncrasies and quirks. He is an overall good person.

By contrast, Pate, I would say that if I were ever asked to name the 10 most mean-spirited persons on ST, you would most certainly make the list. That does not justify censorship and you are still absolutely free to spew forth your foul rhetoric and postings (like various animals defecating, as but one example). Rox outclasses you by light-years. He is an overall "good egg" who on occasion gets just a tad emotional about issues which are important to him. You, by contrast, post some truly hateful stuff on ST. I totally support your right to do so but I'd be careful about at whom I pointed a finger. You are hardly one to talk.
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Feb 2, 2010 - 09:55am PT
a rush limbaugh fan lecturing
on decency...........too funny.

i'd tie in w/pate any day.


w/ rox............i'd rather
free solo some choss.


edit: and so now i get a non-endorsement
by a non-climber who knows nothing about
climbing on a climbers forum.

beyond funny.
LEB

climber
PA
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:13am PT
d-know,

Just for the record, I am not a Limbaugh fan and you can free solo choss any time you choose, but I certainly do not endorse your doing so. As for Rox, he is "good people." And now, I am off to work.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Why'djya leave the ketchup on the table?
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:20am PT
Rox outclasses you by light-years. He is an overall "good egg" who on occasion gets just a tad emotional about issues which are important to him.

When a person CHOOSES to be pariah that person should not cry in wheaties after being treated with the fruits of her success.

DMT
fattrad

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:00pm PT
So, is Rokjox still with us? Has the fake locker taken up the manipulation project? Will Werner destroy all of the offending parties?



Fattrad/Walling '12

Endorsed by John Long



The evil one
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 12:05pm PT
Can anyone else tell we're in the middle of a long dark winter?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:09pm PT
Rokjox’s morse code message may be a cryptic farewell.

In international ham radio language, it translates to:

”QSL”
“Best Regards”
“Contact has ended”
“Closing radio station”


I call bullshít on him leaving, let alone staying away for any length of time.

Absolute, utter bullshít.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 12:10pm PT
he'll be back in under 3 hours. with a long one.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:24pm PT
"he'll be back in under 3 hours. with a long one."












Poor poor Tailpipe. :(
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 12:26pm PT
get out the tailpipe lube.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 2, 2010 - 12:28pm PT




Was supposed to be all rainy and sh!t outside...

Blue skies!!!...

Climbing???...

Fuk that!!!...

It's turning out to be a beautiful day to "Sniff Glue"...


Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
Sprocketville
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
this crap brings in the bacon from the ad companies, believe it or knott,

so we should Pay Locker, And Cosmic for all the photo work, what say?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
"so we should Pay Locker, And Cosmic for all the photo work, what say?"












Send it to my paypal acct :)

I need it now cause my Wife just retired today.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2010 - 10:37pm PT
this thread needs to flex it's muscles and compete against The Moderator like a champ.
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:37pm PT

"so we should Pay Locker"...



send me your WOMAN and top notch MEDICINAL "GUD"'s...


Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
Sprocketville
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
it is hours of work to download a bunch of pics,
doctor it all up,
re do it, then re shape it, form it,
up link the mofo if you can find the right file,
then post it,

so it is not like we are dealing with hardened criminals,


























are we?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 2, 2010 - 10:53pm PT
"it is hours of work to download a pic, doctor it all up,
re do it, then re shape it, form it,
up link the mofo if you can find the right file,
then post it,

so it is not like we are dealing with hardened criminals,


are we?"













photo not found
Missing photo ID#143798



Dam.
Can't find the pic of me.


locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 2, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
"it is hours of work to download a bunch of pics,
doctor it all up,"
...

Best I can say is check the timing between someones QUOTE I often use and many (not all) of the manipulated image to quickly follow...

I've never really timed it...

But often five to ten minutes at best...

and that's one reason PhotoShop doesn't work for me personally...

It's NEVER about the QUALITY of the image...

almost ALWAYS about the ABSURD/STUPID and getting it up there QUICK...


the ladies refere to me as the...



































60 Second man...


Quality doesn't matter...


Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
under 2 minutes

Credit: Pate
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 02:18pm PT
I'm so proud of my new-found talents I'm cross-posting this one. For Prod and nature.

Credit: Pate
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 3, 2010 - 07:44pm PT
hillarious!
Blowboarder

Boulder climber
Back in the mix
Feb 3, 2010 - 07:57pm PT
I'm not rokjox.

And only faags call sledneckin' "snowmachining".

locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 3, 2010 - 08:07pm PT
Not bad Pate!!!...

and in TWO(2) minutes...

your "ART" is up there with the SUPERIOR quailty of work I do...

and people THOUGHT it took HOURS...

LOL!!!...
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 08:37pm PT
I'm heavily influenced by the Masters.

Wish LEB had more pics of herself posted to "manipulate". Oh well, great artists work with what they're given.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Feb 3, 2010 - 08:41pm PT
pate you are correct, and no doubt LEB is not much to work with....or she is a piece of work however you want to put it...
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 3, 2010 - 08:47pm PT
There are 2 types of LEB Trolls...


The GOOD LEB Troll

photo not found
Missing photo ID#143950













































































































and The BAD, bad, bad LEB Troll!!!
































photo not found
Missing photo ID#143954
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:03pm PT


Just WONDERING...

But HOW did this "Great Disappearing Thread Thread" that I think was refering to a THREAD dealing with WOLFFUK...

TURN into one that is TEARING into LEB/Lois???...



The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
Just WONDERING...

But HOW did this "Great Disappearing Thread Thread" that I think was refering to a THREAD dealing with WOLFFUK...

TURN into one that is TEARING into LEB/Lois???...

Entropy, man. Entropy...

Cosmic, that last one is really hi-qual.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:09pm PT
Has the fake locker taken up the manipulation project?

Huh?? There's a fake Locker??
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:11pm PT
Seems about RIGHT...(edited: entropy that is)...



Yes!!!...

there is indeed a FAKE "Locker"...

and it's deffinatly NOT me...




EDITED:

and there's a FAKE Cosmicragsman and FAKE Roxjok...(edited: ALSO not me!!!)...

HILARIOUS!!!...

drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
I am shocked and saddened by the current state of Supertopo and these threads.
Juvenile "art", unrelenting LEB bashing, and general lack of taste.
I'm ashamed of you guys.
Hold on...


























Ok, I just tuned up.
I fvckin love this sh!t !!!
Keep up the good work, dudes.
I'm proud ti call you my friends.

This 180 brought to you by:
Jefe, AT+T Wireless

With generous contributions from:
Jah Jah
Espresso
Icewater
LEB

climber
PA
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
Well, let us put it this way, after dealing with these figures all day since about 10:00 am (it is now 9:10 EST) any diversion is welcome. God, I don't know how accounts do this day in and day out. It is SO tedious.

I have made only a small dent in this thing.
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 09:17pm PT
Please direct all comments to/about LEB to The LEB Thread.
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:39pm PT
Please direct all comments to/about LEB to The LEB Thread.

Umm, only the moderator is allowed to give such direction...
Pate

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
I guess I meant to say "please".
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for
Feb 3, 2010 - 09:56pm PT


"Umm, only the moderator is allowed to give such direction..."...



I DIDN'T know WOLFBOY was back...
Roxjok

Social climber
dark side of the moon
Feb 3, 2010 - 10:42pm PT
locker,

I REALLY would like you to be the MODERATOR.

I've emailed ChrisMac, but he's NOT getting back to me.

Forgiveness is what the world needs, even California. We are all good people.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Apple Valley, California
Feb 4, 2010 - 12:43am PT
^^^^
The FAKE Rokjox, AGAIN!

:S
LEB

climber
PA
Feb 4, 2010 - 01:03am PT
Cos,

I know that "voice" but I just can't place it right now. I will recognize it soon enough. I figured another one out recently. Once you tune into someone's voice, it is very easy to pick them out when they change avatars.