Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2010 - 02:47pm PT
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Aw shucks! We'll be talking bearpaws and Hawkens right quick here!
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scuffy b
climber
Eastern Salinia
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Does anybody remember Arrow packframes?
My impression was always that Fitschen, Robbins and Raymond were inspired
by the great Austin Post photographs which were published in Glacier Ice.
There was a huge picture of the Kichatna Spires in my cousins' house
(Austin Post was their uncle).
I would gladly be corrected on this one.
Unfortunately, I missed this threadback when Big Joe's attention was drawn
to it.
I'll pose this anyway: I wonder if Joe could tell us about the events
leading up to the first descent of Fitschen's Folly on Tahquitz.
At the very least, the tale should make it into his book.
Thanks, Joe.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2010 - 08:52am PT
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Never saw an Arrow packframe. Any recollection of where it might have been made?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2010 - 09:24am PT
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Joe should be coming to the gathering in celebration of the second ascent of the Nose so you can ask him directly about his Folly.

The Austin Post shot Scuffy just mentioned. Damn! Look at all that stone!
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BooDawg
Social climber
Paradise Island
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Steve: I SO appreciate all of your historical and other threads and am amazed at what you keep posting. All of us here owe you many thanks for all that you post, your topics/content AND your insights.
Guido: My dad had a Trapper Nelson. I'm glad I never had to carry it anywhere, having grown up in the Kelty age...
Ken
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2010 - 05:08pm PT
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It is my pleasure to share what I have on all fronts. Thanks for the appreciation.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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PIlgrims, Steve G. is actually a builder now many years, but his real interest in recent years is our history, no surprise. He is passionate, thorough and tireless and wants to take his climbing history interests to an organizational level actually and is building a major collection, clearly.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The Trapper Nelson, in all its glory. (Prospector not included.)
Canvas sack, wood (hickory?) frame, unpadded straps, no hip belt. They were still around when I started scouting, and I used them a fair amount for hiking and snowshoeing, and later when working in geology. The REI Cruiser appeared soon after, and was considered the sine qua non of backpacks.
I heard that the first descent of Fitschen's Folly preceded the first ascent, making it rather unusual.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2010 - 11:17pm PT
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Thanks for the kudos, Peter.
Anders, that pack looks like a real character builder! LOL
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 8, 2010 - 07:12am PT
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Trapper Bump...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2010 - 11:26am PT
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Fitschen Bump! See him next weekend!
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Jane Levy
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 05:32pm PT
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To Scuffy and his request for the story from Joe Fitschen about Fitschen's Folly I recommend buying the DVD of the Tahquitz Reunion that took place in November of 2009 where Joe tells the story of how it all happened. After the fall and his injuries, Royal went to the hospital and visited him. the beginning of a long and lovely friendship.
You may purchase one at the Idyllwild Area Historical Society Museum - 54470 North Circle Drive, Idyllwild - (where the History of Climbing Exhibit is still in place) for $21.50 (tax included).
Or send a check or money order for $24.75 (including shipping and handling) to IAHS at PO Box 3320, Idyllwild, CA 92549.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2012 - 10:57am PT
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Jane- Thanks for the link!
I have been trying to source that DVD for a while.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2013 - 12:33pm PT
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Spear carrier bump...
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 10, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
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Wow!
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