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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Why'djya leave the ketchup on the table?
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 29, 2009 - 02:51pm PT
Like right now (sniff). I STILL think this is the absolute best climbing video I have ever seen.



DMT
atokasandstone

Trad climber
Harrison, AR
Dec 29, 2009 - 03:05pm PT
Yes its awsome. The old man is the camraman's dad. All of "noseclimber"'s vids are badass.


edit: I like the part where he almost falls but doesn't.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Why'djya leave the ketchup on the table?
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 03:34pm PT
I thought they looked a lot alike... and wondered about that. Thanks!

DMT
Josh Nash

Social climber
riverbank ca
Dec 29, 2009 - 04:47pm PT
suddenly I feel like a candy @$$
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Dec 29, 2009 - 04:52pm PT
yeah......

Touching....


Good Clean Wholesome Family Fun.... S'what I always say
G_Gnome

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Dec 29, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
Only a couple more years and you and your son will be like that DMT.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Dec 29, 2009 - 06:13pm PT
I want to be that guy, I want to be able to do that.


Kinda nice, I have 52 years of climbing ahead of me.... wow!
PhilG

Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
Dec 29, 2009 - 06:22pm PT
I just have to agree, Dingus. Inspirational!
FeelioBabar

Trad climber
One drink ahead of my past.
Dec 29, 2009 - 06:25pm PT
awesome! thanks!
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Dec 29, 2009 - 06:27pm PT
"how old would you be, if you don't know how old you are?"

great vid. gives me hope for my future.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Why'djya leave the ketchup on the table?
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 06:34pm PT
I can only hope so G_Gnome. You will forgive me if I have self-doubt?

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Why'djya leave the ketchup on the table?
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2009 - 06:36pm PT
Now I understand why the camera moved as it did with Johann almost pitched off. He had the rope under his leg (I believe, its hard to tell right there) and his own son was filming what would have been a deathly fall.

Phew!

DMT
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 29, 2009 - 09:05pm PT
hey there dingus milktoast, thanks for the great climb link...
my computer never works well on these.. but someday, i will "collect"
all the links and borrow time on someone's computer to see them...

:)

thanks for the share... :)
this one sounded even more speical..
illusiondweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 29, 2009 - 09:29pm PT
Wow, still got the edge eh? Made me nervous ( and I think the videographer as well!) when he lost his balance and caught himself! Runouts and all...Glory to God!
locker

Social climber
Pimpin' for "Crack Annie"
Dec 29, 2009 - 09:36pm PT


COOL video...







For once, being in a hotel for the past week, I have WiFi as opposed to "Dialup" and can FINALLY watch the Youtube things...

Weeeeeeeee!!!
Ezra

Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
Dec 29, 2009 - 09:57pm PT
Verry inspiring and cool video,
thanks Dingus, you gots some gud posts!
rincon

Trad climber
SoCal
Dec 29, 2009 - 10:13pm PT
Good video, but the soundtrack sucks. Listening to it made me cry.
Fletcher

Trad climber
The beckoning silence
Jan 1, 2010 - 04:21am PT
Bravo. Our spirits are eternal. Only the body (its temporary home) wears out with time. But, the body can still do amazing things if you allow it to, despite age.

Thanks for the share, DMT.

Eric

Edit: I actually kind of dug the soundtrack. But I'm a french fry and Euro lover at heart!
hb81

climber
Jan 1, 2010 - 04:37am PT
Whew, that could've been a pretty serious fall there... amazing effort.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 1, 2010 - 12:02pm PT
Steep and runout 5.8ish, with slung features for pro, at 77 - good stuff. But best of all was his tie-in method. I'm going with this from now on:

Credit: Willoughby


taorock

Trad climber
Okanogan, WA
Jan 1, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
Looks more like a 5.10. Its UIAA rating would indicate that as well.

The "slip" was amazing, because he was so present and immediately changed his sequence of moves.

Thanks for posting this.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Jan 1, 2010 - 01:27pm PT
The guy is eleven years older than me. I guess I see what I can look forward to---if I'm really lucky...

The moment a few people referred to as a near fall really isn't anything of the sort. What happens is an example of what aging climbers have to continually cope with and adjust to: the strength to perform certain moves, a strength that used to be there and that the brain still thinks is there, is no longer available.

Climbing---well, trad climbing anyway---is all about coping with what is. You have to carry on with what the rock gives you, with the rack you actually have, the shoes you chose, with the water, food, and clothing you brought, the environmental conditions, and finally, with whatever strengths and infirmities you bring to the route.

Aging adds a new variable to the equation. The body you have to work with isn't the body your brain thinks you have. It issues commands that the troops can no longer carry out. As far as I can tell, the brain does not adjust to this new state of affairs, and instead the climber has to add a new feedback mechanism, one that tells the out-of-touch commander-in-chief that he's nuts if he thinks you can do that, and perhaps we should explore a way than demands a bit less power.

The video is unique in that it makes a moment of this internal dialog visible. The climber pulls up, realizes immediately that he can't lock off, drops back down and locks instead with the other hand. It doesn't look elegant, but I don't think there was anything marginal going on.

The most poignant thing for me, the thing that spoke the most about the indomitable spirit now confined to a failing body, is the difficulty the climber has with high steps, and the pride and effort that goes into not using his knees. This is most visible early in the clip as he surmounts the lower buttress.

There is another moment, very early on, that I found moving, although I may be adding my own interpretations to a entirely random gesture. Just as he begins, the climber pauses for a moment and touches his forehead to the rock.

Was this just an instant of imbalance corrected with a head touch?
Or was it, as I prefer to think, a gesture of acknowledgment, of thanks to the crags that have obviously been a shaping influence in a long life, and perhaps also a plea for safe passage, yet another time, after all these years on the rock?

The climber confronts a very old adversary that is simultaneously a very old friend, and with the slightest tip of the head, a lifetime of experiences, like an electric charge, passes between them. Thus begins another in a series of ascents stretching back for years, a performance, with all its awkwardness and frailty, that speaks of the eternal bond this man will carry with him to an end that is, relative to the span of his life, now not far off.
hb81

climber
Jan 1, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
Looks more like a 5.10. Its UIAA rating would indicate that as well.

It is about 5.8 actually, as the rating is VIIa (saxon grade) and not 7a (french grade). But I guess the real problem here are the runouts anyway, they look quite dangerous.
dfrost7

climber
Jan 1, 2010 - 01:49pm PT
Thank you. Beautiful way to start 2010.
taorock

Trad climber
Okanogan, WA
Jan 1, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
hb81, thanks for the correction.

Very incisive and descriptive observations rgold.
ec

climber
ca
Jan 1, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
I feel like fixin' my brain, but I'm afraid that I won't feel the same...
perfect track!

Great vid!

thanks, ec
Fletcher

Trad climber
The beckoning silence
Jan 1, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
Thanks rgold, for those nuanced thoughts (once again).
Binks

Social climber
Jan 1, 2010 - 05:13pm PT
inspiring... love to see the older guys still cranking, even more inspirational to me than the feats the young are carrying out. anyone can be strong, bold and powerful when young, but those who show us how to carry the momentum forward teach invaluable and rare knowledge
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Jan 1, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
"Or was it, as I prefer to think, a gesture of acknowledgment, of thanks to the crags that have obviously been a shaping influence in a long life, and perhaps also a plea for safe passage, yet another time, after all these years on the rock?

The climber confronts a very old adversary that is simultaneously a very old friend, and with the slightest tip of the head, a lifetime of experiences, like an electric charge, passes between them. Thus begins another in a series of ascents stretching back for years, a performance, with all its awkwardness and frailty, that speaks of the eternal bond this man will carry with him to an end that is, relative to the span of his life, now not far off."

rgold, That is good stuff.

Dingus, Thanks for posting this again.
Z
Anastasia

Mountain climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
Jan 1, 2010 - 05:22pm PT
Incredible...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Why'djya leave the ketchup on the table?
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2010 - 10:29am PT
rgold, I think he was acknowledging an old friend with that nod, saying hello at least one more time. And he was thanking whatever gods he admires, that he could still climb that Stone Steep Grade.

I imagine he's climbed that route dozens of times over the years.

DMT
MH

Trad climber
Mays Landing, NJ
Jan 2, 2010 - 10:45am PT
Thanks Dingus. I could at least (sort of) control my tears - until I read RG's post.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2012 - 08:09pm PT
BUMP....



DMT
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 5, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
Great bump Dingus...... I just love this Video and Rgold's writting brings out some deep feelings in me.


But I thought this post was going to be about the movie "Homeward Bound"

I always start crying when "Shadow" comes limping home..... baw- shucks...

or now when I think about my up comming 60TH birthday!!!

I just break down and cry...

TPFU
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2012 - 08:31pm PT
Guy, this is my 40th season of climbing :)

Here's to you bro.

DMT
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 5, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
great post dmt,what a sport ,this here climbing,aye?
MH2

climber
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
Nice to see this. Even though we may not know the people we can guess a lot about what they are feeling. I liked the 'old-man yoga' at 6:53.



eidt:

would like to add that for me perhaps the most significant moment is the tying of the shoelaces, always a time of mindful transition for me
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
Very Inspirational DMT TFPU
Did that guy mentor Donini BITD?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
Awesome video! I can only hope to be able to put my climbing shoes on while standing up when I am that old. Hell, I can't even pull that move off now!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:49pm PT
WOW, Dingus!
Awe Inspireing!

Thanks for posting this!

There was one part I found familiar; When he used his hand to raise his foot.
I have to that a lot with my bad knee. :)
ncrockclimber

climber
The Desert Oven
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:51pm PT
Amazing! TFPU!!!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Dec 5, 2012 - 09:58pm PT
He looks a little like...
































Spencer Tracy!
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:58am PT
Two words:

Rope Musket
nah000

Mountain climber
canuckadia
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:23am PT
thanks for bumping a powerful vid and, a page back, written gold by rgold:

"There is another moment, very early on, that I found moving, although I may be adding my own interpretations to a entirely random gesture. Just as he begins, the climber pauses for a moment and touches his forehead to the rock.

Was this just an instant of imbalance corrected with a head touch?
Or was it, as I prefer to think, a gesture of acknowledgment, of thanks to the crags that have obviously been a shaping influence in a long life, and perhaps also a plea for safe passage, yet another time, after all these years on the rock?

The climber confronts a very old adversary that is simultaneously a very old friend, and with the slightest tip of the head, a lifetime of experiences, like an electric charge, passes between them. Thus begins another in a series of ascents stretching back for years, a performance, with all its awkwardness and frailty, that speaks of the eternal bond this man will carry with him to an end that is, relative to the span of his life, now not far off."
Borut

Mountain climber
Ljubljana, Slovenia
Dec 6, 2012 - 01:53am PT
TFPU Dingus. Great moments!
Here's more of *Siegfried Johne* climbing, with friends and family. Same place (Elbsandstein), same grade, but the dude was much younger: 72.
micronut

Trad climber
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:06am PT
Thanks Dingus. This is what we all secretly hope for in our late days eh? A nice day on the stone. Sun on our backs. Old men with our children beside us....going up.
Fuzzywuzzy

climber
suspendedhappynation
Dec 6, 2012 - 02:36am PT
I dream of climbing there someday. I hope I remember this film and rgolds insights and touch my forehead to the stone.

Thanks
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Dec 6, 2012 - 08:07am PT
hey dingus,good for you and yours,you wont have to twist my arm to git climbing,the dacks.you know i dont even know you,but it would hardly matter.i know we could have a lot of fun at a crag......those shoes are something,remind me of my old boreal fires,somehow i can still smell em.....i am still blown away from that video,looks like i have a good 25 years left for all this,inspiring indeed,thanks.congrats on 40 years.a true milestone,stay chuffed,wilbeer
Credit: wilbeer
steve shea

climber
Dec 6, 2012 - 11:17am PT
A couple of Septembers ago I took my son to Vedauwoo to climb for a few days. He was 11 and just discovering the fun of trad climbing. Anyway we were at the bottom roping up when this lanky old timer comes up and asks if there is anything he could do for us. I said "no, we're all set, but what do you mean?" He goes on to explain he that wrote the guide book and he saw it laying on the ground and thought we might like it autographed by the author. I said sure and my son being an impressionistic 11yrs old was all excited. It turns out he was 81 then and still climbing regularly. We figured 5.5/5.7ish. He then roped up and cruised a solid Vedauwoo 5.9 right next to where we were. My son looked on with an eye popping exuberance that set the tone. He later announced he wanted to be doing that at that age. Pretty cool experience.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 6, 2012 - 11:22am PT
Guy, this is my 40th season of climbing :)

Here's to you bro.

DMT


Same here, class of 73....

back at ya good buddy
jopay

climber
so.il
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
Thanks for the bump, I've seen this video before but enjoyed seeing it again, I can second what rgold has said the mind remembers but the body says wait a minute not so fast. I'm 66 still crankin but I can really appreciate watching him climb, so impressed he wouldn't use the knees, you can have great style at any age.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
A true gem, this thread. Thanks for bumping it to the top. Love that writing by rgold. He really captured it, the feeling in the climbing. The video capture the flavor of climbing with natural protection. WILD! Love that stuff.
Fletcher

Trad climber
The rock doesn't care what I think
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:48pm PT
Just as good the second time around. Thanks for the seasonal bump!
Vegasclimber

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Dec 6, 2012 - 12:53pm PT
Great thread to be bumped.

Getting to climb in the Elb has been one of the highlights of my short climbing career thus far. Getting to climb with Berndt Arnold was even better.

Seeing this is making me really want to head back over there, but it's looking like at least another three years before we will be able to go. I miss Germany on a daily basis, such an awesome country.

The whole area around there is full of amazing views, hiking, and much more - the climbing is the icing on the cake. Berg heil!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Dec 6, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
Yeah, that near slip/fall, as previously mentioned, at about the 3:42 spot, got me gripped.
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