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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Nov 10, 2009 - 08:56pm PT
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I'm going to be at a board meeting with Pat Callis in a week and a half--should I ask him?
I doubt he cares one way or another, and maybe doesn't even remember the climb, but I'll see what he has to say...
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apogee
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2009 - 09:14pm PT
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I would be interested to hear what Pat has to say, though I'm concerned that the person who did this might use his indifference as rationale for their action.
It would be useful to know who did it, or at least why- perhaps keeping this thread prominent will bring some info forward. If anyone here frequents Mtn Project or RC.noob, more insight might be had that way, too.
Before letting the issue explode into a negative ethics spray-a-thon, a few facts would be helpful.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Nov 10, 2009 - 09:49pm PT
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I was gonna say Seasons End needs some bolts but since sarcasm doesnt transfer well on the interweb I'll keep my trap shut.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Nov 10, 2009 - 09:53pm PT
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Is Suicide so quiet these days that this kind of crap could go so unnoticed? I guess it could have happened at anytime though.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 10, 2009 - 11:14pm PT
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Call it what it is,
an act of vapid vandalism.
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Nov 10, 2009 - 11:34pm PT
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In all seriousness if not me someone needs to get up there with a crowbar.
Juan
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microcam
Trad climber
San Juan Capistrano. California
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Nov 10, 2009 - 11:39pm PT
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My old school climbing partner who taught me to climb about 11 years ago told me never to do three things: 1) Never let go of the brake hand 2) Never chip holds 3} and never add a bolt to an existing route in honor of the individual(s) who put up the route. Do your homework fellas? The slab pitch ends up at the anchors for Surprise and Clam Chowder. We know how Surprise got its name and who put it up. Who in the world would be right in adding bolts to his existing route! Think fellas! And quit bitchin' about something until you find out the truth!
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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Nov 11, 2009 - 02:44am PT
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I agree with Juan (that's a fuucking first)
chop chop.
BOOOTY!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2009 - 10:08am PT
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Apogee,
I'm surprised at your outrage?
It's the perfect liberal bolt!
It gives the masses a false sense of security,
and
eliminates the need for self responsibility.
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apogee
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 11:29am PT
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TGT-
Believe it or not, we probably share similar views on preserving the legacy of classic routes. Incredible, huh? A progressive with a strong appreciation for history. Whodathunkit?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2009 - 12:47pm PT
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Did you happen to notice if it was a 5 piece or a wedge (stud)style?
Someone farted in church. The acolytes are outraged!
More like left a coiler on the front pew!
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apogee
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 12:49pm PT
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No, I didn't look too closely- it was definitely a 3/8" cap bolt, with a large SS hanger. It appeared properly installed, but in a silly location.
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Mojomonkey
climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:03pm PT
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So.... did you clip it?
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:13pm PT
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I'm off until Monday. Who's got the tuning fork and crowbar?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:18pm PT
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Sunday?
What time?
I'll bring tools and Epoxy for the hole patch.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:22pm PT
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Use instacrete (concrete repair epoxy putty.)
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:38pm PT
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That's exactly what I had in mind.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Redlands
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:53pm PT
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Anyone ask Gaines or Clark what's going on up there?
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apogee
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2009 - 02:08pm PT
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Good question. I'll check with Bob (if he hasn't already seen this thread).
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 11, 2009 - 02:29pm PT
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It's been almost 30 years since I last did Surprise (or, for that matter, anything else on the Weeping Wall). Even in those pre-historic days, every time I was there, there were others on the Wall, so it amazes me that someone could drill a bolt there and no one else knows the story -- or that the bolt is still in.
Have people stopped climbing at Suicide?
John
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