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okie
Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 8, 2009 - 12:16pm PT
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Lived in 'em from the beginning. But what's up with the latest generation of Gramicci?
The waist cinch won't stay tight. I guess it's okay for that ghetto look if you want to show off your boxers but not so great for climbing.
The pockets are a lot shallower. Important stuff falls out.
Outsourcing the manufacture?
Any Gramicci folks on here? Doesn't the creator post here sometimes?
Oh yeah, please bring back those Ninja pants or whatever they were called. I saw cool pictures of Werner, Bachar, and other heros running it out in those Ninja things so I rushed right out to the Mall and bought a pair so I could be cool too!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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"hmmm... which pair of Stonemaster pants should I use for this offwidth FA?"
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Don't know the full story, but the company is no longer owned by Mike.
Think;. Hostile takeover. Lowered standards. ect..
I have also heard that he lost control over all his original designs. Serious bummer. Haven't been able to confirm that.
This is his latest effort.
http://www.stonemastergear.com/
Please take everything I said with a grain of salt, except the link. That is the real deal.
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apogee
climber
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Are Gramicci's still around? I thought they got absorbed by some mega-corporate-opolis. I used to love 'em, except that they don't make 'em for 38" inseams like mine- they look like pantaloons when I wear 'em (though I do appreciate the Capt. Jack Sparrow comparisons).
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Fletcher
Trad climber
somewhere approaching Ajna
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Get thee to Stonemaster Gear for the real deal, son.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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they even stole his nickname.... did they give him a number?
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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That was another bummer.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apogee writes:
"...for 38" inseams like mine"
Don't you mean 38" waist?
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
Lake Oswego, Oregon
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Mike sold the Gramicci brand LONG ago. His Stonemasters gear is the new generation with the original quality.
A couple of seasons ago I won a "design something out of mosquito netting that you can run, ride and climb in" contest at Outdoor Retailer and, as a result, I received a $250 gift certificate to Gramicci. I was psyched. Then the products came and within WEEKS the seams were coming out! New stuff=junk.
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adam d
climber
closer to waves than rock
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yup...the new incarnations aren't so burly. I had a pair of 'em whose life was limited to a 2 week trip in Josh. On the last night I doused the tat in scout juice and torched 'em in the fire pit.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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"Lived in 'em from the beginning. But what's up with the latest generation of Gramicci?
The waist cinch won't stay tight"
All the Amazon.com reviews say the same thing. YOu can get some deals on em from time to time there.
Try rubbing the webbing on some wax
PEace
karl
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okie
Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2009 - 03:36pm PT
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Thanks for steering me back to the true source, John and Fletcher!
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apogee
climber
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Nope, Chaz, I mean a 38" inseam.
Waitaminit.....are you givin' me shite?
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Ray Olson
Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
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yes folks its true, after thousands of years making
clothes that work, the growth for growth sake freaks
have taken over, mulitplied and "forgotten" how to do it,
real progress, real evolution :-)
too bad, Gramicci was great and Mike's business model
was stellar, glad he's doing the new Stonemaster thing...buy that.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jan 28, 2019 - 12:57am PT
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I'm out a dollar for this thrift store find.
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