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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Wow, enjoyed many good hamburgers, french fries, and cold beers at this place. It was the way station for climbing, mountain biking, or motorcycling trips up the Angeles Crest. Hope they rebuild it.
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Redwreck
Social climber
Echo Parque, Los Angeles, CA
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Aw f*#k. I ride my motorcycle on the Crest a lot and a stop at Newcombs is a key part of the ritual.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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The area around Newcomb's is beautiful. It's a tragedy it's going up in smoke.
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SIMONBENTLEY
Ice climber
JOSHUA TREE
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This is indeed sad news . Newcombs Ranch has always been special to everyone who played in the San Gabriels .
I know they will rebuild the place .
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise....
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Well, I guess it's easy to be mean & petty on the intardnetz.
I'm sorry ya'll lost a groovin' spot that you obviously valued.
All things must pass, I reckon.
If ya happen to drop by, I'll grill up some burgers for ya!
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Shivasana
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I'm going to miss that place. All things have their time... it will be great if the owners can rebuild.
Eric
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Oh that's too bad. Wonder if the Horse Flats area burned too? I sorta thought it might be out of the fire area, being further NE, but it's not that far past Newcomb's.
Now that I think about it Newcomb's isn't that far past Chilao and they evacuated Chilao yesterday.
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Big Piton
Trad climber
Ventura
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I am very sorry to hear that area got hit that hard. I've been going there since 1980 and not just the normal customer. We partied so hard there we had to spend the night upstairs. Then ten years later we would stop there mid week after a day of teaching kids climbing. And my last visit I did chimney/woodstove work for them. Tons of good times.
I wonder how the other buildings survive? There are at least 5 youth camps in the area as well as the Visitor’s Center. Then there is the Forest Service Station and living quarters as well as the Cal Trans base.
I more passing friend
MMM
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Brian
climber
Cali
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Dang. Horse Flats is a great family-friendly camping/climbing area. I'll be bummed if it got trashed...
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Iron Mtn.
Trad climber
Corona, Ca.
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What a bummer, i'm really shocked how far the fire has traveled.
I celebrated a nOOb 3 day backpack Margarita there 20 years ago after a brutal 17 mile hike from West Fork Campground to Chilao and then hitched a ride with a couple of ex-cons back to civilization.
I wonder if Vetter Mountain Lookout is history too?
Any word on Big Santa Anita or Chantry?
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Wow,
Not what I wanted to hear. Newcombs has been a part of my life for years and the people there have always been great. That smell of wood burning in the fireplace and sitting down to a hot coffee after a day of skiing or climbing was always something I looked forward to.
RJ,
Newcombs Ranch was built at the turn of the century and was one of the very few structures in the high country. It was not built by people who snubbed their nose at the forest it was a place where foresters hung out and latter skiers and climbers. It's true that Southern Californians build in wildland interface areas and continue to do so but to make the ignorant comments you made is just plain ridiculous.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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LOG, GRUB(Clear) and GRAZE.
Until you get out of the way of sensible professional land management, it'll be the same every year.
Burn, baby, BURN.
Retards.
Uh, this is a chaparral fire. Logging wouldn't have done much good. And it was the "sensible" land management of the day that allowed this to happen.
So, be careful who you call retard. When you point a finger, there's three fingers pointing back at YOU.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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You ever been to the San Gabriels? Do you know anything about the natural and human history of this range?
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville
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dude,
on second thought, i won't waste my time...
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aguacaliente
climber
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I happen to know how the fire is said to have started, presciptive burn.
Rocky,
As long as you are going to jump up up and down and thumb your nose at people, keep your facts straight.
The fire in Foresta was started by an out of control prescriptive burn.
The very large fire that burned Newcombs Ranch in the Angeles National Forest near LA was not. Its cause is under investigation.
The one thing I know about wildfires in the West is that it isn't a good idea to decide you know everything about how to handle them, because nature will come around and burn you if you get overconfident.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Rocox,
Are you really that ignorant? Have you been to So Cal? Like others have said we have no logging or grazing. The San Gabriel Mountains are some of the steepest most rugged and inaccessible terrain in the US. What we fire professionals have finally learned after many years is that we were too aggressive with firefighting as a result we now have 100+ years of growth that we are dealing with at the moment. Tell ya what, do a little research, come back and write with some knowledge of the area. Maybe even google images of Angeles Crest or San Gabriel Mountains.
Oh, the cause is undetermined but most likely intentionally set, or to make it clear for you, arson.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Most of this fire has been in the Angeles Forest. At the north end of the fire perimeter is Acton (along Hwy 14), where there are homes and ranches across the foothills. This is the North (back) side of the Angeles Crest and is a rural area. The south perimeter (bottom of the mtns.) is adjacent to the L.A. Basin - Altadena, La Canada, La Crescenta, Big and Small Tujunga Canyons, etc.
So spewing comments about people building and living in the fire area is only partly correct - yes, people live in the foothills and of course in the basin (flats) which go right up to the edge of the mountains - but this fire has mostly blown through a national forest. Take a look at the fire map on inciweb.
The cause is still under investigation. I don't think they even DO prescribed burns in the Angeles. The Foresta fire is what started as a prescribed burn.
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SIMONBENTLEY
Ice climber
JOSHUA TREE
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Maybe when they rebuild Newcomb's they will stop buying potatoes from Idaho .
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