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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Oct 10, 2005 - 11:57am PT
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congrats paul. did you enjoy the route?
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mike hartley
climber
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:25pm PT
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Paul,
Did you (and others that you know of) carry all of your stuff up there on your own and back down? Rent a horse? Beg friends? I thought hard about soloing a route up there but couldn't imagine getting the gear to the base and down. Renting a mule looked pretty pricey also. How you do dat??
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Spinmaster K-Rove
Trad climber
Stuck Under the Kor Roof
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Oct 10, 2005 - 07:14pm PT
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Ooh man..if he had help getting gear up there then it wasn't REALLY a solo. Let's hope he did it in good style.
j/k
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 10, 2005 - 07:39pm PT
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Yeah, they deduct the number of Virgins you get in Heaven if you have folks help you carry stuff.
Worth the sacrifice in my mind. Particularly to Half Dome once the Spring is dry
Peace
Karl
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Darnell
Big Wall climber
Chicago
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Oct 10, 2005 - 07:44pm PT
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Saw no offsets on the last pitch,but I did it in the dark a got a little off route.
Rob topped out a few days b4 me though,u might want to talk to him.
Soo many ways to go on that last pitch!!
Lots of fixed gear (sucker lines) everywhere!
A GIANT rock went flyin by me head on like the 25th, freaking huge, nice explosion down on the trail.
How bout those rivet ladders?
I have to ask you and Rob, did you sling your own webbing behind those frickin things? They stuck out farther than any I have ever seen,and I have climbed some shity rivets in the past.
I cut most of the webbing on the whole route,which was lots,it was such crap.
Did you replace ane bolts?
Take any good whippers??
haha.
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Paul
Trad climber
Muir Beach, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2005 - 10:17am PT
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Thanks all for the replies.
Yes, I did haul all my crap to the base: two trips up the slabs, by myself. I did a 30 mile trail race two weeks before the Tis-sa-ack adventure, so was in good shape to do the schlepp. However, my wife and two friends met me on the top and helped carry down some of my stuff (does this mean I get less-of-a-beating behind the shed?).
I liked Tis-sa-ack, except for the constant weaving back and forth. It's a drag to solo, and have to go at a big angle on almost every pitch. Ya, moan-moan.
Poor Rob, I accidentally let a flake fly (pitch 5) which peppered him on pitch two. It missed, but he said he felt like he had a gun pointed at his head. Sorry, I owe you. And, remember my great hauling system set on fifi hooks? Well, on pitch 8 I pulled the haul line only to have it snap. I big shredded line came whipping up to me. Luckily, the bag stayed on the belay....
Yup, that last pitch was a moaner. Steep and wandering. I took a 10 footer on that one and the Ramp pitch. Here's me at pitch 20, last night on the wall, 8PM:
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Darnell
Big Wall climber
Chicago
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Oct 11, 2005 - 11:46am PT
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I think Rob might have passed the huge flake thing on to me, it was really big!
You still did not tell me what you did on the rivet pitch,did you clip the tat slid behind those rivets?
I could not bring myself to do it, I also did not want to sling my tie offs over all those old ones so I cut most of them.
I also did not clip most of them for fear of rippin them out if I fell.
Paul, were you up there when that soloist died on the slabs?
Here is a funny little story, When I topped out on Sat. there were sooo many tourists up there.
So I am carring the giant pig down the cables, and there is ahuge bottleneck right where it gets steep.
So I stop about 10 meters before the bottleneck, where the angle is not as bad to wait.
I sit down and all of a sudden some guy comes up behind me and asks me to move. Before I can even explain about how he will be waiting quite awhile even if we move up, he blows past me and say's, "I did not know this was your mountain"
I wanted to beat him within a inch of his life!!
So he moves up a little and had to wait at least 10 min. due to the cluster.
I made jokes about him for quite awhile, I told him,"you get a little tired and you get all crabby huh" haha!
All those ppl. epicing on the way up abd down really do inspire me though.
They are having big f*#king day's.
I love the energy of the ppl. in the valley.
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Paul
Trad climber
Muir Beach, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2005 - 07:57pm PT
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Darnell,
I'm impressed with your Zenith solo, and 13 days on the wall: Zoiks! That is quite the time on wall. The rivet ladder, as skanky as it was, must have been easy pitches for you. Regarding your question, I had a bolt kit, a bunch of bolts and rivets to replace, but was too time crunched to replace some of them. I mostly clipped the old tat and backed up the skanky ones with my own. I'm amazed that they held, despite hanging what looked like 2/3 the way out the wall.
My time crunch (confessions of a big wall climber) was due to meeting the wife and friends at the top (camping at the shoulder) and making it down the next day to stay at the Ahwahnee for a couple days (woooo-hoooo!). I checked on Rob to see his progress (Sept. 17 & 18). Looked like he was half-way at that point. Yes, everyone, that guy carrying the Chimay bottle in El Cap Meadows was me.
Yes, I was up there when the soloist died. There was a HUGE 10' chunk that broke away from the scar section and littered the gully on Tuesday (Sept. 13). The next day they pulled the guy off. Not sure if the rock fall was related since the rangers (and Link) said he was off (approach) route and had some gear (couple nuts) attached.
Luckily, I missed the touron goat-feck on the cables since I wandered down them Friday, at 5PM. But, man, they were out in force the next day on the mule trail! Same comments, "Yuk, yuk, geeze that's a big pack ya got there. Don't cha know ya only need a small pack for Half Dome?"
I met a woman named Kate before I climbed Tis-sa-ack. She said she was going to do some wacky link up on El Cap. Can't remember the link up and if she was successful - any insight folks?
Paul
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Rhodo-Router
Trad climber
Otto, NC
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Oct 12, 2005 - 08:04pm PT
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Ho man!
Those rivets took 5 years off my life, I swear. f*ck me. I slung nuts over them after the sudden epiphany (rr-rrr-ip!) that the tat was for lower-outs, not to ride on.
That big flake-- you mean the one about 8 pm or so, in the dark? That was the only really stupid thing I did up there-- tired, climbing in the dark, headlight very dim and dying. I was tired of grovelling in this corner (the one after the rivet ladders), saw an A1 crack on the right and stuck a cam in it, and slumped back down onto the lower piece to feed out slack or something. The next thing I knew, grit was falling and the rock was groaning, I figgered 'this is it, I'm getting erased off this route, my rope'll get chopped if I don't'. Fortunately I'd plugged into the side of it and not the bottom.
About a foot thick, shaped like a giant piece of baklava, maybe three feet on the long side judging from the scar. I'm glad you were way under there for that one.
Paul, I'd forgetten all about the target practice on the Zebra. What I actually said was something like 'nobody's got a gun to my head', meaning it was my choice to climb under you...
I tried the hook system once, it never came off the anchors. So much for that.
Hey, cool place for a camping trip, eh!
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Rhodo-Router
Trad climber
Otto, NC
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Oct 12, 2005 - 08:07pm PT
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About the dead guy:
I spoke with Link when I got down, said he hadn't been dead that long; he died on the same day they recovered his body.
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Rhodo-Router
Trad climber
Otto, NC
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Oct 12, 2005 - 08:16pm PT
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As far as the weaving about goes....at least it was steep.
That route (Tis-sa-ack) would be a good one to have a partner on, was my eventual conclusion. Not because of the wandering (don't they all do that?), but because of all the free-climbing potential that I was ignoring. So many long #1 camalot cracks, and the Ramp, and the squeezer before it, the second pitch on the Zebra with all those flakes... I felt like an overladen chump several times.
And the Super-Weaver, the topout-- that long leftward dangler traverse (fixed little camalot, pin) would definitely go free. I reversed it after changing my mind (seduced by fixed tat up and right)and mostly hung off the incuts by my hands while cleaning behind me.
Sh*t like that is why that was the only pitch I climbed that day ;) I thought Paul's pace was gonna be my pace, but that didn't last long. The Zebra day was the only one where I got 4 pitches in; after that it was s.l.o.w....
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Paul
Trad climber
Muir Beach, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2005 - 09:12pm PT
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Wa-hoo! He Lives! Sorry about the Zebra rock-pepper-fest. And, that last pitch, the wander-ramma was another fun one. I was hanging off a cam hook, then came the dreaded Rrr Rrrrr Scraaape Ker-Pow! A chunk came off, hit me in the chest, then bounced off my portaledge (in bag, bending a tube, doh!) before cart wheeling below. That was a 10 footer for me. Yes, I was a sucker and went right. The only benefit of going right was good anchors and direct haul over the bags. What a grovel!
My speed was due to a whacky schedule I set up before and was determined to make it to the Ahwahnee and not lose the reservation. That place is $300+ a night! Plus, Sept. 17 was my wedding anniversary. And, you can't beat the Sunday Brunch. So, I bivied at Pitches 3, 7, 11, 16, and 20. I would wake up at 4:30AM and be climbing by 6:40AM and stop around 5 to 6PM at night (cocktail hour). However, going from 11 to 16, I was setting up in the dark. I still have a dream of doing only 2 pitches a day, and taking MORE beer. Oh well, next time... I thought the Ramp was long and tedious, plus I ran together that pitch and the cave pitch. It looked like you were having fun on pitch 13.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Oct 13, 2005 - 01:22am PT
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man, you guys are making me jones big time...
way to go, I need to go follow in your footsteps.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Oct 13, 2005 - 01:25am PT
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Congrats on your solo ascents! It's great to see more and more people taking to the walls on their own.
Is it actually possible to hire mules to schlepp stuff up there? If so, how much does it cost, and who would I contact?
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Oct 13, 2005 - 01:56am PT
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yes, probably the horse packers over near Curry. Just go over there and ask around.
I think their ussual deal is multi-day trips in the backcountry...so they would probably try and rape you for a one day haul up to Half Dome, but maybe not. My guess is $200 minimum.
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Paul
Trad climber
Muir Beach, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2005 - 08:40am PT
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I did the mule research about 3 years ago and it would come out to something like $200- $250 to get the stuff to the shoulder of Half Dome. You had to hire the "guide" and the mules. You may want to deja the thread. But, you then had the schlepp from the shoulder to the base. Maybe Chongo could lug the stuff up there since he needs to get out of the valley for awhile.
Not sure about the others, but I just did the slab slog. It took me 3 hours from the Ahwahnee to base of Tis sa ack. I also had the benefit of being in okay shape with all the trail running nonesense. Gotta love Half Dome, but ya pay the price to get there (and down).
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ricardo
Gym climber
San Francisco, CA
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Oct 13, 2005 - 05:36pm PT
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i would love to climb halfdome .. but the hike down the east ledges with 2 bags nearly killed me .. i'd hate to think what i'd look like after getting the bags down the halfdome descent trail
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Darnell
Big Wall climber
Chicago
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Oct 13, 2005 - 09:52pm PT
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Rob, that big chunk of rock went right by ne head, I took a lead fall about 5 min. later.
There were some folks at the base of the Reg. They did not know what to think after all that took place withing about 5 min.
I was laughing and singing, they must think us aid climbers are a bit daft!!
Paul, I can't believe you clipped that tat!!
Keep doing that and you will learn the hard way, you gota cut that sh#t out boy and use your own tie offs.
Tell em the better way Pete!!
I think I saw where that rock scar was from you peelin it off, I was looking for it,thought it would be bigger than it was.
I loved the expando on Zenith!! lots of it!
Thank god I had the big Pika hooks!!
would have been $#@^%#& without them.
I hauled the better way with the ledge open,worked great!
Rich
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Oct 14, 2005 - 12:33am PT
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"I hauled the better way with the ledge open,worked great!"
No doubt, eh? Nice to have a place to eat lunch when you're soloing.
Chris Mac told me Zenith is "the all-time Nailing Classic". Thoughts? Do you recommend it? Was it worth the effort?
Cheers, mate.
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I topped out on Tis-sa-ack after 5 days (solo), on Sept. 16.
Let us know!