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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 19, 2009 - 01:56pm PT
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This sucks, but my old 15 yr old dog Joey is suffering enough that it is time to go. He is 3-legged, mostly blind and deaf, confused, and now has trouble breathing due to (probably) congestive heart failure. I'm ready to put him down, but do not want to drag him into my vet's office (which stresses him out - he lost a limb there after all!). My vet will not come out to the car to euthanize the dog, like other vets, but other vets will not euthanize a dog that they've never seen before and require a visit!
As if this weren't hard enough already.
Do any of you know any vets in the East Bay who would be sensitive to this predicament and willing to euthanize my friend while he rests comfortably with me in the back of the car?
Here's a shot of us last Thanksgiving, in Joshua Tree:
Here's an older thread:
http://supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=556301&msg=557413#msg557413
Here's a life story thread:
http://www.handicappedpet.net/helppets/viewtopic.php?t=10948
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:05pm PT
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my vet says to tell you that there are vets in the east bay that make house calls (no contcat info for you- google?) and that would be your best bet...
edit- so sorry cleo.
such an irony that our best friends live such short lives.
they just have 7 times the love in their hearts that we do, i guess...
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Bill Sherman
Mountain climber
Thousand Oaks, CA
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:25pm PT
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Thanks Riley!
I wish one of my ex's who is a veterinarian was out at Davis right now. She would have been able to help. I'm sorry to hear about the troubles you're having. Joey sounds like he is an incredible companion based on the story you wrote up.
I found this from Google: "Bruce Max Feldmann, DVM is a Berkeley vet that makes house calls. I had him come once, to euthanize a cat quietly at home. He was very sensitive and helped us all through the experience. His number is 5251404"
William Sherman, MD
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jstan
climber
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:27pm PT
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I know this will sound weird but it feels right also.
I would run a pipe from the exhaust pipe into the passenger seat and then sit beside my pet for as long as I could.
Having a professional do it seems too, impersonal.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:28pm PT
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I'm so sorry for your sadness and your dog's suffering. Hope you can get the help needed without too much more effort.
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jstan
climber
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:43pm PT
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RJ:
Back in 1850 we used a 12 gauge. Seen a few.
Yeah. That is why it is less impersonal.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:46pm PT
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Cleo, I am so sorry about you dog. I hope you can find a compassionate vet.
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John wrote,
"I would run a pipe from the exhaust pipe into the passenger seat and then sit beside my pet for as long as I could."
Cleo, I honestly dont think you would use this method, but to prevent misconceptions about this I wanted to clear up some misunderstandings.
Old cars use to put out as much as 25 percent carbon monoxide. New cars with catalytic converters put out as little as 1 percent. Carbon monoxide is what causes you to pass out and die. So if this method was used, the fumes from unburnt fuel would be very noxious and it would take a very long time to pass out from the little carbon monoxide being released. This would lead to prolonged suffering.
Edit: Rox is also correct about not recovering quickly from the carbon monoxide if you sat with your dog. It is nasty stuff.
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jstan
climber
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:52pm PT
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Many thanks for input from those with more knowledge than have I. Sorry about the hijacking.
It is just the problem is so tough.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Aug 19, 2009 - 02:55pm PT
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Riley,
You can detune the car to produce more carbon monoxide. The one percent is just the average of a properly running modern vehicle. Older vehicles produce more, plus if your catalytic converter is rusted and empacted and doesn't fully do its job, that can cause your vehicle to produce more.
It is just that you won't really know how much your vehicle is producing. That is part of what smog checks do and why vehicles can't pass smog because their catalytic converter is impacted. So it can take a long time with a modern vehicle and in this case that would cause prolonged suffering for the dog while it has to breathe gas fumes.
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Sorry Cleo, for taking this thread in such an odd direction and away from your need. I just wanted to clear up some misconceptions.
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 02:56pm PT
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oh goodness, I'm not doing the car thing. but thanks for the suggestion?
working on finding a vet - have to make a few phone calls. this sucks.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Aug 19, 2009 - 03:01pm PT
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I'm sorry to hear about Joey, but it sounds like you're doing the right thing. Good luck with finding a humane vet, who will come to your home. That's always best.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Aug 19, 2009 - 03:02pm PT
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I used a "MOBILE VET".
this was in socal though...
no exam needed.
good luck, and sorry.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Aug 19, 2009 - 03:03pm PT
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Sorry to hear about Joey, cleo. He is a good dog and I'm glad to have been able to spend time with him.
Good luck with the vet, and God bless Joey.
^^^^Try the guy that Bill Sherman listed above^^^^
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Aug 19, 2009 - 03:29pm PT
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sorry for your future loss, Cleo
Hope all works out well... as it always does
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Aug 19, 2009 - 03:40pm PT
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sorry to hear that jeff
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 04:12pm PT
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I'm sorry Jeff - best wishes your way.
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 04:42pm PT
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Sonora Pass, 2 years ago:
thats better:
Echo Lakes
Meysan Lakes
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2009 - 05:15pm PT
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well, i found a few house call vets: fairly pricey at ~$250 for the visit, plus the body disposal -> $500!
not that i don't think it is worth it, but i'm a student with no income at the moment. My doggie is just as comfortable in the car as in the house, so if I can drive somewhere, have the vet walk outside, and save myself a couple hundred bucks, I'd like to do that.
this TOTALLY sucks!
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jstan
climber
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Aug 19, 2009 - 05:21pm PT
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Don't do the CO.
The experts have got me worried about that now.
Looking at the pictures it's clear your friend was a champ.
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