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clustiere

Trad climber
berkeley ca
Topic Author's Original Post - May 7, 2009 - 12:57pm PT
Hey folks,

I am just wondering how the rockfall is and has been between the Grack and Monday Morning slab??
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 7, 2009 - 01:52pm PT
As of when? I haven't climbed there since last summer, but there was no sign of unusual rockfall then. Personally, I think there are far more dangerous places to climb in the Valley than in the central area of the Apron, but as the recent rockfall and George Stock's posts show, no Valley wall is immune.

I plan on climbing there soon.

John
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
May 7, 2009 - 02:24pm PT
I plan to find out on Saturday.
dogtown

climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
May 7, 2009 - 07:39pm PT
Love the Apron here's a shot of Robinson and I after our send of Patio to Coonyard , later on I led Coonyard to the to the Oasis. Heard itís not done much anymore. (pity) A super route.

Circa 1982
irene+

Trad climber
New York, NY
May 8, 2009 - 11:04am PT
I have climbed recently at the Apron and all seemed fine, there was another party doing the Grack that day. The start of the climbers trail is very non-obvious, lots of fallen trees and navigating through swamps. On our way down we tried to leave a mark. (two sticks with white tape on them).
luggi

Trad climber
lat 37.34 lon 120.60
May 10, 2009 - 05:12pm PT
Clint how was the apron? Looking to climb again....thanks
rhyang

climber
SJC
May 10, 2009 - 09:05pm PT
Climbed The Grack on Saturday afternoon .. very popular climb.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
May 10, 2009 - 09:30pm PT
nice bump

was thinking the same thing this weekend.

Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
May 10, 2009 - 11:15pm PT
Robert Summers and I climbed Regular Mouth on Saturday, and Point Beyond Direct on Sunday. Lots of parties hiking back and forth from Grack to Goodrich Pinnacle and beyond on Saturday. One party did Goodrich Right Side. On Sunday, several parties (including Linda and Heather) did Chouinard Crack / Harry Daley. There was snow at the base of Point Beyond Direct, and there was a good stream of water coming down Hall of Mirrors.

We did not observe any rockfall on Saturday or Sunday (in fact I have never observed rockfall while I have climbed there). There were a few impact marks on either side of the first pitch of Regular Mouth, and lots of unstable blocks along the base. We think the blocks may have fallen during the winter onto snow at the base and then shifted downwards as the snow melted. Regular Mouth was free of impact marks above p1, except for one on the ledge at the start of p3.

Also, there were a lot of somewhat new blocks (perhaps from over the winter or more recently) over the trail where it makes the level traverse on the sandy slope between Hall of Mirrors and Goodrich Pinnacle Right Side. I recall in one of cleo's posts she said there were 2 rockfalls in the Valley the weekend of May 2-3, with one of them possibly at the Apron:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=853277

Incidentally, I don't exactly recommend Regular Mouth (5.9 R) at present - I aided the runout crux on p2 by tossing a hook, and p6 is protected only by an original 1/4" Star Dryvin which sticks out from the rock. We replaced one anchor bolt at the top of p6 ("The Mouth"), and the protection bolt on p3 - we only brought 2 bolts with us.

It looks like Roger and I will work on this section of the Apron this summer, so this should be fixed up (old bolts updated, runouts still the same) before too long.
Rich Graziano

Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
May 11, 2009 - 08:59am PT
My wife and I ran up The Grack Center yesterday. It's hard to say what the rockfall risk is. It goes without saying that anytime you're on the Apron you accept an increase in risk. (Of course, while there's risk anywhere in the park, the risk at the Apron is more noteworthy due to the rock fall activity there.) It may be helpful to know that there seems to be some new rock at the base just below Goodrich Pinnacle, west of the wash. I'm not sure if the rock is related to the October 2008 rock fall incidents; as I said, the rock seemed new and there certainly were some broken trees.
luggi

Trad climber
lat 37.34 lon 120.60
May 11, 2009 - 02:00pm PT
thanks for the info
Joe

Social climber
Santa Cruz Mountains/Los Gatos
May 11, 2009 - 08:13pm PT
deep throat desperately needs a bit of asca magic as well.
luggi

Trad climber
from the backseat of Jack & Elwood Blues car
May 15, 2009 - 06:57pm PT
was it just me or that area between the Grack and lets say Monday morning slab had what seemd to be fresh talus at the base...anyone else notice or is it old stuff...it was bea----u----tiful climbing though, except that sense of a potential fall seems stuck in the noodle...
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
May 15, 2009 - 07:34pm PT
The whole thing is solid now since Mungie gunited the entire area.
luggi

Trad climber
from the backseat of Jack & Elwood Blues car
May 15, 2009 - 08:41pm PT
I tip the hat to Mungie for work well done
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