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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 30, 2009 - 08:05pm PT
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Hi guys and gals, I've been looking at Cold Cold Worlds Ozone pack
It looks gorgeous, simple, and absolutley elegant.
So....I need convincing on why I should buy this pack....from those who own it, or not; pros/cons, love hate relationships, etc, etc and if there are any alternatives let me know which!
Cheers!
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Erik of Oakland
Gym climber
Oakland
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Apr 30, 2009 - 08:26pm PT
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get it
Cold Cold World is 2 legit 2 quit
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Apr 30, 2009 - 08:31pm PT
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I own a cold cold world pack and LOVE it. No junk attached, all the things you need, good space, great fit, I use the tool loops as gear loops on long alpine routes, great construction. I had NO negative comments on it. I have the chernobyl.
Peace
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
Vacaville Ca,
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Apr 30, 2009 - 08:49pm PT
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See that material the packs made out of...
That's ballistic nylon, the kind of stuff you usually find only on the bottoms of backpacks or protecting gators from the ravages of a miss-step in crampons.
Try and find a whole pack made from this stuff anywhere. Used to be common, but now everyone has switched to chincy, lightweight, paper thin ripstop. Manzanita eats that crap alive.
Nuff said.
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Holdplease2
Big Wall climber
Yosemite area
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Apr 30, 2009 - 08:58pm PT
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Cold cold world packs are great. Here are some reasons:
No stupid zippers to blow out.
No lame zero function attachments that catch on everything, rip out, and weigh extra. Velcro clippy shockcordy loopy thingys. Ugh.
Material is bomber
Ice axe loops aren't lame girth hitch elastic (though I see that yours doesn't have these anyway)
If it has any support frame it is probably a spare foamy pad, stiff enough to protect your back and double useful as an emergency sleep pad or splint. Also removable to gain space or remove weight.
Made in USA, like FISH.
Basically, this pack seems to be what packs were 20 years ago. Ask a guy who was doing stuff 20 years ago and he laments that his pack that lasted 19 years got ripped off from the back of his car. Could care less about the gear inside... This pack is that pack. But new.
-Kate.
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rockermike
Mountain climber
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Apr 30, 2009 - 09:20pm PT
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Save your legs and lungs. Get an ultra-lite. Just have to buy a new one every year. Good for employment in China.
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TYeary
climber
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Apr 30, 2009 - 10:07pm PT
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I own two Cold Cold World packs. I've used them from JT to Peru.
You won't regret it. There are the best of their kind.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 30, 2009 - 11:45pm PT
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sweet! (that vid was totally gnarly dude...)Wow the responses on CCW are phenomenal, not one negative thing about em, fantastic! I'm almost there on pulling the trigger!
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climblight
Mountain climber
Northern NV
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I like T Yeary own 2, Used from Alaska to S.America and everywhere in between. Dig that my 3/4 z-rest works for the frame on both.
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ice cowboy
Trad climber
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You can't go wrong! Randy sent me a new valdez yesterday. My old one has gone over 800 days of hard use, and some rodent finally chewed a hole in it. Good excuse for a new one.
I have the mid size pack too, doesn't look to be slowing down anytime soon.
Price is less than a commie-made one too.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2009 - 12:56am PT
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Awesome, definitley what I wanted to hear! Question though for the Ozone, (after talking to Randy) I have the option of adding a removable string/bungie tab system, is that good idea or is just plain silly? (Like having options)
Thought, Advice, Taunts please!
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RDB
Social climber
way out there
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You're killing me. Why? 'cause you obviously NEED one! The OZONE is the sshhiiittt! And the fact that CCW is among the last of the totally custom packs made by a single master craftsman. And most importantly to me Randy is also a stand up guy.
Here is my first Ozone built just for ALPINE and ICE cimbing believe it or not...simi custom with a couple of minor chages.
CCW Ozone with my original and much worn '70s Chouinard FISH pack.
That one was so good a few buddies have jumped in and we made a couple more minor changes and came up with this version of the Ozone and ordered 5 or 6 more just like it.
Best $100 you'll ever spend on a pack...or climbing gear in general these days. As you can see I am mightly impressed with CCW.
Here is a piece of email we circulated among ourselves to get the custom Ozone done.
"Just got the two packs we ordered in from Randy @ CCW. Pretty nice pieces I think. Based off the one I have been using for the last couple of months I had him add a couple of things to make it a better alpine climbing - small wall haul pack.
Removable, extendable, lid which holds two, 1 liter water bottles, map pocket below main pocket and a key ring D SEWN deep inside map pocket. (have the lid sewn on if you are using it for a rock pack)
8" snow skirt with draw string top of the pack (not so great if you want a rock only pack)
Shoulder straps pull from above instead of below.
Smaller lid strap with lower portion bar tacked for hauling
Back haul loop.
Added some "bell" to top of pack cut for more carrying capacity.
30/ 32L apprx without extension...maybe 34L if full up ... 2400/2600 cu in?
Dbl rope straps at top of pack for strapping down load, tools and/or rope. Works great for tools and rope.
Ballistics nylon through out, dbl bottom with all seams taped.
removable foam pad, 1.5" waist belt, 2# total weight
Newest Ozone on the left, original version on the right.
New on on the right, original on the left in these two pictures
$130 was the cost with shipping to Seattle.
Red body with a black back all out of 1050 denier ballistics.
21" back so it fits me perfectly. Should you as well.
Can't remember what I actually told you about this project (but you saw the original pack) basically had Randy build a Ozone to have something similar to my old Chouinard Fish that I used on every big mtn route I did and again this winter. The Fish pack has been trashed for years but have always missed it and looked for something like it when buying new climbing packs. Didn't want a lwt cloth pack but one I could haul if need be and not worry about trashing on the first climb. Pack is much better than I had hoped for as a climbing tool."
If you want something a little different Randy has some purple and some yellow ballistics he can do the Ozone in as well. Just tell him Dane sent ya to get the "good stuff" in a bright color but he might be out of red by now :)
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2009 - 05:23pm PT
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Fantastic Dane! Totally convinced, called Randy up, modification set (removable lid, 8" snowskirt, 6 bar tacks for optional sring compression system, a few more tidbits), pack is on it's way!
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David Knopp
Trad climber
CA
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i have a chaos and chernobyl, have worked in gear shops with access to all other packs and have found none better-the bigger one is perfect for 3 day alpine climbs, with ice or not, and the other perfect for one nights or cragging. It's been 10 ten years and they are still going strong! thanks randy!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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While I don't have one, they seem like really nice packs in the same way as the Wild Things packs I have. Both brands seem designed from the viewpoint of being basic, functional and bulletproof. Ballistics cloth, just big enough for what you need it for, removable foam back pad for emergencies, hardly an unncessary strap, really clean lines. I've done everything with mine from ice at Lee Vining, trekking in Nepal, the Captain and fastpacking in the Sierra. If I didn't have my Ice Sac, I'd have a Cold Cold World.
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John Vawter
Social climber
San Diego
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I have a Chernobyl and love it for overnights. Used it for a two-day trip to Jepson and San Gorgonio a couple of weeks ago.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Are these packs in any retailers in So. Cal? I'm gonna need a new pack soon but like to try them on and check them out in person before buying. These look cool, nice and simple.
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slobmonster
Trad climber
berkeley, ca
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I have a Valdez bought in 1993, and it's still perfectly serviceable.
Bought an Ozone a few years back, and I expect that it will last longer than I do. (And I turned 34 this Spring.)
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RDB
Social climber
way out there
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Crusher this is new on the CCW website:
http://www.coldcoldworldpacks.com/moreinfo.htm
"Notice:
You may have noticed over the past few months that you are not seeing Cold Cold World packs in the shops as regularly as in the past. We have not stopped making packs or have any plans to in the foreseeable future! Rather, over the past few months, we have taken on some non-Cold Cold World related outside projects that have substantially cut into our ability to keep our usual retail dealers supplied with packs on a regular basis. We have been continuing to fill orders directly to customers just as in the past so if you'd like to get a pack it's as easy as ever. Just call or e-mail.
We still offer the option to return any pack you order if for some reason you decide it's just not for you. Simply return it, unused, in the same condition you got it, for a full refund, minus the shipping."
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Thanks...will check them out online.
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