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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Depends, which route?
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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with a wrench in his pocket?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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The regular retro bolting that goes on is just too confusing on just what is what. Thank Satan for pink bolts.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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I don't think I'm one to weigh in on this, but that is an interesting and unexpected development.
pink Is a nice touch, though.
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nature
climber
Tucson, AZ
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pinko bolts?
commie bolts?
what next?!?!
tough call on the retro bolting. To say that since you could do it back then but not now to me doesn't justify retro bolting it. IF you said today - we should have added more bolts back when we established it - at least carries some water even if the bag is leaking.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Thumbs up for the pinkos.
But to answer; the title has it right. It depends on how many $$ you have.
(but apparently not your wife LOL)
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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How about socialist bolts?
But pink is nice. . .
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Riotch
Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
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Testosterone production declines after the age of 25, or so.I think your willingness (need) to run it out declins in proportion to your testosterone levels.
Ever consider HGH?
Oops, thats another thread . . .
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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I believe there was some such talk, bitd, but that might have been by those of us who were asceered of leading it.
after that Frank, maybe some Zappa, wet T-shirt night...
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luggi
Trad climber
Atwater, CA
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DMT...do you enjoy all the tacos or as you get older you become more wise and know what who is a good "chef" and who would be a bad "cook".
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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weakwrist needs to ask again in a few decades,..
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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I Tr-ed it,
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Riotch
Trad climber
Kayenta, Arizona
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You Pu$$y!
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WBraun
climber
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The stringent conditions of the material laws of nature, birth, death, old age, and disease are the sum total of all the problems of material existence and can never be solved by any plan made by human beings.
Thus you're all pussies to begin with and will remain so .....
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Who is to talk about acceptable? We become pussies sooner or later as we get older whether we accept it or not!
Still, in your case it's strange since you're the FA party, retroing your own route. You are arguing for the bold alternative but let your partner retro-bolt the route so you're both pussies of different sorts.
Ok, not really in my mind but I wanted to write that.
Maybe it's more subtle than that. What were the original motives?
There are quite a few cases out there of folks who put up dangerous or death routes to prove their ego BITH and now wish the fine routes would be enjoyed and don't want anybody to die. I'd say that's worth a retrobolt if you're the FA party to begin with. After all, we should be able to correct our mistakes if that's what we think they are.
Of course, some routes somehow start to belong to the community and a community discussion could be in order. If Bachar gets senile and goes pussy on us, I wonder what folks might say if he wanted to retro Bachar-Yerian? He could probably get away with "Solitary Confinement"
Peace
Karl
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Upper Fupa, North Dakota
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Werner: hahahahahaha! You 'da man!
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Lazy Eye- as long as they're dosed! Was the 88 BF on the west side?
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RDB
Trad climber
Iss WA
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Pussy...another dumbed down climb by the "future" generation.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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keep 'em coming, Lazy eye!
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