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dougalclimber

climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 2, 2009 - 12:20am PT
Change has come...



Porkchop_express

Trad climber
thats what she said...
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:21am PT
THAT...is what she said.
apogee

climber
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:29am PT
The new kids obviously think big...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:45am PT
Nasty. Yo bigger than that.

Condie is a talented woman whether you agree with her politics or nada.

Can yo fill me in on Michelle's credentials. Seriously asking. Don't listen to sheee tv or rarely read the rags.
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:48am PT
http://www.barackobama.com/about/michelle_obama/

Couldn't resist. :-) I don't watch television either.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:56am PT
Pick and choose your liars. One side is cleaner than the other? Really ? Think not, really, when you study their lives. :)
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 2, 2009 - 01:02am PT
Seriously-Condi should be in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Mar 2, 2009 - 01:06am PT
guido, you want to put a human being in jail. Ok, give me the data on why. List specifically all the reasons. Jail time is serious...very.

MisterE

Trad climber
One Place or Another
Mar 2, 2009 - 01:07am PT
Another "Fish" tale?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Mar 2, 2009 - 01:30am PT
So Kevin, I did. I respect your opinions. We have some mutual friends and I listen and weigh what you say.

But, I cannot take any of the shee presented on the media as Real Truth. I cannot believe the words of either of our two major political parties.

I can only at this point try and discover the truth for myself.

I served in a limited role in San Diego Politics...and learned much. It was not pretty...on either side of the political spectrum. Lynne
ß Î Ø T Ç H

climber
O a k t o w n
Mar 2, 2009 - 01:32am PT


Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Mar 2, 2009 - 07:15am PT
Say, I know that guy in the Enzyte ad. Isn't he involved with Condi? Or is he just the skipper of SS Condoleezza Rice?


She may not have taken the big one, but a 129,000-ton supertanker ain't small.
corniss chopper

Mountain climber
san jose, ca
Mar 2, 2009 - 11:00am PT
this can't happen to our money can it?
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2743/canthappentous.jpg
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
Mar 2, 2009 - 11:13am PT
I dunno, organic milk shot up from $5.29/gal last week to $6/gal this week, that's with lower fuel costs and falling wholesale milk prices. Something is hitting the fan.
corniss chopper

Mountain climber
san jose, ca
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:12pm PT
100 Billion dollars for 3 eggs !!!- It took Mugabe 10 years to drive their money to that level.

A recent news blip also from Zimbabwe is that their National Park
rangers who get paid Z$5000 a month (less than 1-cent US) and get
10Kg of bush meat per month also. The math is 3000 Rangers, so
30,000Kg of meat. All of which they get to kill themselves and/or
take possession of from poachers kills or paid legal hunts the
National Parks cater to. First choice they all say is elephant,
as the taste is wonderful (quote), but buffalo is fine.

The crocodile farms around Lake Kariba need vast amounts of meat
and poachers are supplying them elephant.
jstan

climber
Mar 2, 2009 - 12:32pm PT
At 12:10 EDT the DOW is down 230 at 6837. If you look at the historical data you see a rise just in time for the 2004 election. The DOW is now below that and indeed we are back to 1997. If there is any inflection in the DOW earlier to 1997 it comes at about 4000. Forgeddabout a support level.

If you linearly extrapolate the decreases starting late in 2008 we reach 4000 around the first of September 2009. All of that is just numerology. The current decreases being breathtakingly rapid is, however, a fact.

I did not think stocks made any sense either during the telecomm era or even after that correction. At 4000 if we have some semblance of rationality in business planning i.e. no more talking only about quarterly results, we may have some ground on which to stand longer term.

On another subject, I have thought we need to isolate banks one at a time, take them over, and put their inventories in order. Today Bloomberg has a report lauding the effort in Sweden to fix their problems just this way. That country, not being retarded did not suffer reckless lending, so their problem is not as severe as in some other places.

EDIT:
Another report just in. Moody's is continuing its review of GE's AAA rating even though GE has made the first cut in its dividend since Mar. 4, 1938. 80% of GE's stockholders are non-institutional so a downgrade will have an outsized effect on general perception of the market.

That same report includes work by Prof. Shiller who feels, based on P/E ratios from 1982, that those ratios are still too high by as much as a factor of two.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWrthV.bqHAg&refer=home#

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