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Ken M
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Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 25, 2009 - 11:57am PT
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Religious Right Watch Special Edition: Abortion Doughnuts
JESUSLAND - With the Bush administration gone, access to the White House by religious fundamentalist leaders is likely to be sharply curtailed, though the public is unlikely to know by just how much until the court-ordered release of White House and Cheney residence visitor logs has been accomplished.
But all that pent-up religious fervor undoubtedly needs some sort of release, so the Very Religious are likely to fall back to pre-Bushian positions, bearing in mind that with the American economy in virtual collapse, screeds about how moral the free market is are not likely to find much of an audience among Obama supporters, stock market investors or anyone with a 401K.
So yes, that's right: It's time to haul out the "Abortion Is Murder" placards again - but abortion protest ain't what it used to be, because who knew how much the very language of abortion rights has changed since 2001?
Certainly, Krispy Kreme doughnuts didn't; they just thought they were being patriotic in offering a free doughnut to every customer on Inauguration Day, but check out how they phrased it:
"Krispy Kreme Doughnuts, Inc. is honoring American's sense of pride and freedom of choice on Inauguration Day, by offering a free doughnut of choice to every customer on this historic day, Jan. 20. By doing so, participating Krispy Kreme stores nationwide are making an oath to tasty goodies -- just another reminder of how oh-so-sweet 'free' can be."
Can you pick out the one phrase Krispy Kreme probably shouldn't have used? Right-wing religious nutjob Judie Brown of the (very) Catholic American Life League could!
Here's their propaganda screed:
"KRISPY KREME CELEBRATES OBAMA WITH PRO-ABORTION DOUGHNUTS
"Washington, DC (15 January 2009) - The following is a statement from American Life League president Judie Brown:
"The next time you stare down a conveyor belt of slow-moving, hot, sugary glazed donuts at your local Krispy Kreme, you just might be supporting President-elect Barack Obama's radical support for abortion on demand - including his sweeping promise to sign the Freedom of Choice Act as soon as he steps in the Oval Office, Jan. 20."
Brown then quotes Krispy Kreme's press release and continues:
"Just an unfortunate choice of words? For the sake of our Wednesday morning doughnut runs, we hope so. The unfortunate reality of a post Roe v. Wade America is that 'choice' is synonymous with abortion access, and celebration of 'freedom of choice' is a tacit endorsement of abortion rights on demand.
"President-elect Barack Obama promises to be the most virulently pro-abortion president in history. Millions more children will be endangered by his radical abortion agenda.
"Celebrating his inauguration with 'Freedom of Choice' doughnuts - only two days before the anniversary of the Supreme Court decision to decriminalize abortion - is not only extremely tacky, it's disrespectful and insensitive and makes a mockery of a national tragedy.
"A misconstrued concept of 'choice' has killed over 50 million preborn children since Jan. 22, 1973. Does Krispy Kreme really want their free doughnuts to celebrate this 'freedom'?"
Wow! Who knew? So offering customers "freedom of choice" about what free doughnut they'd like is "mak[ing] a mockery of a national tragedy"??? So every time I go into a restaurant and the waiter hands me a menu and asks me, "What's your choice?", he's really asking me if I support abortion rights? And "lord" help me if I respond that I'd like a cut of USDA choice beef and a baked potato - I might be putting some naïve teenager under the knife at Planned Parenthood!
Or as whacky Judie apparently put it to the Krispy Kreme execs:
"The use of the phrase 'freedom of choice' is unmistakably a pro-abortion phrase to pro-life Americans. It is a phrase used over and over again by those who favor abortion. Therefore, if your company truly did not intend for that phrase to be an endorsement of a pro-abortion agenda, it is only right that you say so publicly and apologize to pro-life Americans, who are among your customer base, for making a terrible public relations error."
She apparently also had to explain The Way Things Are to her own followers:
"But for those who do not understand why we took the company to task in the first place over this misuse of words, let me take a moment to explain the thought process that went into our decision to bring this to Krispy Kreme's attention in the first place.
"First and most important, there is no doubt if one does a web search for the term freedom of choice, one finds that the phrase has become inextricably linked to the pro-abortion movement. It is one of those terms that has been co-opted by activists who argue repeatedly that nobody is 'pro-abortion,' but everyone is in favor of 'freedom of choice' ...
"Clearly, the simple word 'choice' has been clandestinely high jacked [sic] in recent years; the word that once meant the ability every single human being has to make decisions has now morphed into a word that can also represent the alleged right of a mother to take her preborn baby's life. After all, they say, it is her 'choice.'
"This is why all of us at American Life League are so conscious of the dubious ways in which the word and its attendant phrases are used....
"We acted on Krispy Kreme's promotion and release for two reasons:
"1) Out of concern that use of the phrase by a national company of Krispy Kreme's celebrity and popularity would contribute to social acceptance of a 'freedom of choice' - thus making the work of those pushing the pro-abortion agenda and the 'Freedom of Choice' Act in particular that much easier.
"2) To showcase the importance of language in the cultural battle we are both fighting and to highlight the undeniable connection between the current meaning of 'freedom of choice' and the culture of death. The diligent work of pro-aborts over the years has made abortion palatable precisely because they have been able to frame their case in terms like 'freedom of choice.' We must not contribute to the pro-abortion PR campaign by advancing their talking points. It is high time to remind everyone that 'freedom of choice' is nothing more than a benign, even noble, sounding name for genocide."
JESUS CHRIST! IT'S A F*#KING DOUGHNUT!!!! ARE YOU CRAZY???
Needless to say, the Krispy Kreme execs got the message and responded immediately - 'cause who knows how many church and civic organizations might stop buying their doughnuts from Krispy Kreme if someone took whacky Judie seriously? And miracle of miracles, Krispy Kreme's management issued a revised press release, removing the phrase "freedom of choice" and carefully adding, "The Inauguration Day promotion is not about any social or political issue."
However, the company will now sell its doughnut holes under the label, "Aborted Doughnut Fetuses."
(Okay; I made that last part up.)
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Otto, NC
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Jan 25, 2009 - 12:03pm PT
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When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail...or something like that.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
North of the Owyhees
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Jan 25, 2009 - 12:07pm PT
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Krispy kremes aren't that good, to I & I.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Otto, NC
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Jan 25, 2009 - 12:18pm PT
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Kinda dangerous for a driver to take a liking to 'em, anyhow.
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dmalloy
Trad climber
eastside
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Jan 25, 2009 - 12:23pm PT
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Ken, realize that Mrs. Brown is just trying to find a crafty way to gain attention and keep her issue, and her (undoubtedly donation-supported) group, at the front of everyone's mind. And you, sir, are pretty much helping her at this point.
What is my favorite beer?
Free beer
What is the best kind of advertising?
Free advertising
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jewedlaw
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jan 25, 2009 - 03:29pm PT
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This thread made me want to have a donut.
quickly followed by an abortion.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jan 25, 2009 - 03:44pm PT
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Actually this thread made me wanna have a beer and then mount my wife...but the baby's awake, so....I dunno, I'll have to wait.
WTF? what a bizarre thread, Ken?
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 25, 2009 - 06:15pm PT
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A nurse in one of the main London hospitals was saying that they're having an almost impossible time trying to man these abortion wards now because all the nurses and doctors just don't want to do the work.
In some cases, she was saying, that they take a baby from its mother's womb and it's sort of put onto a tray and thrown into a litter bin and you can see it moving!
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 25, 2009 - 06:25pm PT
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Speaking of U.S. political and social rhetoric, there's a fine editorial in today's New York Times about use, abuse, and misuse of the term "liberal" in your country.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/opinion/25gartonash-1.html?_r=1
As Obama appears to be a pragmatic liberal, something to think about. And your constitution, particularly the bill of rights, emphasizes freedoms that are usually considered to embody liberal democratic values.
U.S. political culture sometimes lacks nuance, and at times even intelligence. And there's a great deal of foolish and misleading name-calling. Particularly as to the term liberal, but also such nonsense as "pro-choice", "pro-life", "moral majority", "silent majority", and on and on. Framing complex policy issues in simple terms is generally counter-productive.
Anyone should be proud to be called a liberal or a conservative, and many of us are a bit of both. Neither red nor blue, somewhat purple.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 25, 2009 - 06:40pm PT
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"Either you're with us, or you're against us."
But, but, but...
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jbar
Ice climber
Russia with love.
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Jan 25, 2009 - 06:59pm PT
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Either you're a politico wackjob suckling on the nipple of controversy or you're just an average jo working day to day and trying to get by while the world is enthralled by drama and "reality".
Can't say that I care but I won't be having my traditional KK dougnut on the way up to the mountain anymore. Makes me sick they had to join the ranks of the exploiters. The only crispy creme to me will be the ice route in NC.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Jan 25, 2009 - 07:11pm PT
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I like Krispy Kreme donuts and I like making choices... Aborting my original idea of eating a jelly donut and going instead for a glazed donut shouldn't be a bad thing!
AF
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2009 - 08:27pm PT
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WBraun, that is one of the more bizzare posts I've seen. I have no idea what your source is, but let me tell you, as a licensed physician, that is absolutely not true.
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jbar
Ice climber
Russia with love.
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Jan 25, 2009 - 08:31pm PT
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"Krispy Kreme Doughnuts, Inc. is honoring American's sense of pride and freedom of choice on Inauguration Day, by offering a free doughnut of choice to every customer on this historic day, Jan. 20. By doing so, participating Krispy Kreme stores nationwide are making an oath to tasty goodies -- just another reminder of how oh-so-sweet 'free' can be."
What does that mean? I wasn't free before Obama was elected? Crap, I guess I shoulda paid more attention to the election. I thought most people on this forum viewed America's sense of pride as a misplaced belief in cultural superiority anyway.
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Porkchop_express
Trad climber
thats what she said...
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Jan 25, 2009 - 09:04pm PT
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Dunkin Donuts are about a thousand times better than Krispy Kreme...not that it matters to most of you since you're out west, or to me since I'm Diabetic...
Abortion wise, I'm all about freedom of choice. I think that a guy has the right to choose to keep his dick in his pants and a woman has a right to choose to keep her legs together. If one or both parties along the way are denied this choice, then the choice to terminate the pregnancy is the next best thin-- the lesser of two evils (rape, incest etc)
Using abortion as birth control is not promoting freedom of choice, it's an attempt to dissociate one's self from inconvenient consequences.
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