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Dudeman
Trad climber
Hansen, Idaho
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 11, 2008 - 01:39am PT
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This stuff was the real deal. Total immunity. Absolute defense against a heinous and vile weed.
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dsqrd
climber
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Oct 11, 2008 - 01:49am PT
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So...
1) why is this no longer available?
2) can someone tell me why something that makes me blister like cheese under a broiler and run crying like a little girl to the doctor for steroids to make it go away would help if I drank it?!>?
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Dudeman
Trad climber
Hansen, Idaho
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2008 - 01:54am PT
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I took this stuff for years. A friend from the California Highway Patrol turned me on to it. It was standard issue stuff for them. I moved away from the Poison Oak plantations in southern California to Idaho and didn’t need it anymore. Now I’m told it’s “unavailable”? Must have caused brian cancer or something? Whatever it was totally worth it.
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adam d
climber
CA
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Oct 11, 2008 - 02:24am PT
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after getting lots of oak...bad, the only thing that made a clear difference in recovery?
Prednisone.
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Michelle
Trad climber
El Frickin' Paso
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Oct 11, 2008 - 06:37am PT
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Bleach compress works great.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 11, 2008 - 11:29am PT
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Maybe it cured Poison Oak because they had to get loads of poison oak to grind up to make this witch-doctor sauce?
Funny, searched on the net and wiki for more info and it wasn't easy to find anything, even though I was aware of the immunizing extract when I was younger.
What happened. Didn't work? Banned?
Peace
Karl
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Oct 11, 2008 - 11:58am PT
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The Indians and many people eat the berries from the poisenn oak. It must work the same way to immunity. Do further research before you try this at home.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 11, 2008 - 12:49pm PT
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Not only that, but the places with poison oak usually have lots of buzzworms, ready to have a bite.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 11, 2008 - 01:12pm PT
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It is a poetic or at least metaphorical name for rattlesnakes. Maybe also other creepy crawlies that bite and poison, even if they don't buzz. It seems to be a commonly used slang expression around here.
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
http://tinyurl.com/4oa5br
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Oct 11, 2008 - 01:20pm PT
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My ass looks like a pincushion from so many cort shots.
Too many trips to the VooDoo Lounge.
Tried some green extract pills a couple of times, worked wonders, never had it sense.
Ohlone Indians ate the leaves.
Try to use your eyes, not getting the oil on you is the best way to avoid it.
Sticks are way worse than leaves.
Water from a nearby creek will help.
Clean your face and hands once in a while in a creek.
Never touch the ol ding dong when you take a leak in the woods.
When you get older, the skin gets tougher, and sometimes you lose your reaction.
Ages 5 to 14 seem to be the worse.
The only good thing about oak is getting your swang so swollen that it stays permanent.
The Doctor and the Nurse in Snotts Valley were looking at it , going, holy crap, they will never get that on the album cover.
I noticed some droll coming out of the Nurses upper lip area.
The extract damages the organs, like the liver, kidneys, brain, membraine, heart, tricep, tri tip, rib eye, elbow, hip bone is connected to the leg bone, the leg bone is shattered by the rock...
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Dudeman
Trad climber
Hansen, Idaho
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2008 - 04:36pm PT
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Myself and all my friends used this stuff for years. It worked for all of us. Although my one buddy said it made his tongue itch? Psychosomatic? It works on the principle that it energizes your immune system in advance of full scale exposure similar to vaccines (okay doctors please explain). You have to take this stuff two weeks before exposure to the “vile weed”. In the years before I began taking Otox I would get Poison Oak rashes so bad that I would just have to sit on the couch in misery. After this stuff me and the buds were like super heroes, no fear. Check out this link http://www.oralivy.com/ I am currently doing this stuff and it looks and tastes exactly the same as Otox did.
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Ouch!
climber
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Oct 11, 2008 - 04:48pm PT
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Before approaching poison oak, find a fresh steaming plop of cow sh#t and smear it all over exposed skin. It's an old Canadian remedy.
Werner cooks with it.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Oct 11, 2008 - 05:07pm PT
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Man, I've had the oak so many times. I would have tried that stuff no matter what the dangers.
I tried this product that you rub on like sun screen before exposure. It didn't work that well.
LEB, for some people repeated contact increases immunity, for some people it gets worse. I have no scientific support, but worked with 20-40 other wildland fire fighters who were always getting oaked and that's how it seemed to me. It's a mysterious plant. The sticks/vines are the most evil. Only good thing about it is the oakasim you get in a super hot shower.
Best to avoid. I either surf, or climb at areas above 6000 feet.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Oct 11, 2008 - 09:47pm PT
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LEB, I reckon your science is accurate. I'm just saying that it seems that some of the folks I worked with who were in oak all the time seemed to build a slight resistance to it. I don't get it as bad as I used to. For most, it seemed they would have about the same reaction depending on a lot of factors, i.e. whether they just brushed up against a plant or chainsawed through a patch with oil spraying everywhere. For a select and miserable few, every exposure was much worse, often resulting in a trip to the doctor.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Oct 11, 2008 - 10:18pm PT
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I also think the dose available from oak changes. Sometimes it's more oily than other times. Though the winter stick form seems to be the worst, which is counterintuitive. Hard to know.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 11, 2008 - 11:50pm PT
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i used to get it badly. Now I haven't had it for years and I'm around it a fair amount
Peace
karl
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jstan
climber
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Oct 12, 2008 - 12:28am PT
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When one gets so old one has not much longer to live the problem from poison oak decreases.
Speaking from personal experience, of course.
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Anastasia
climber
Not there
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Oct 12, 2008 - 12:55am PT
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If poison ivy, oak or sumac are burned and inhaled or eaten, the allergic reaction will be internal, causing extreme pain, internal irritation or damage, and possibly death.
Please do your research before trying out folk remedies that have backfired on others.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/poison-ivy.htm/printable
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esoteric1
Trad climber
san dieco, ca
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Oct 12, 2008 - 11:52am PT
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my buddy ate the first leaves of a poison oak plant, someone told him to roll up several new leaves in toilet paper and swallow it.
turns out he got it all over his ass after it passed through him...he said it worked.
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