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dirtbag
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 25, 2008 - 05:07pm PT
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For those who are sick of Palin threads: too bad.
For those who are supporting Palin, listen up. You are about to try to elect someone who can't even put together a coherent thought about policy.
This isn't about left/right ideology.
This isn't about looking smooth on television.
This is about being able to say something--anything--about the direction of the country or the world she could be runnning in less than 4 months. She can't do it!
She may be a heck of a gal. She may have been a decent mayor. She may be a decent governor. She may be a great mom. Cool stuff, if true. But McCain's selection of her as a VP candidate is a god damned travesty. Any of the usual righty VP candidate names would be a million times better than her.
So, here are three interview clips in which she is actually asked to speak in her own words. Her aggressive liberal media interrogator is none other than Katie Couric.
Part 1:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Palin_and_Couric.html
Part 2:
Planes fly over Russia: that's why I am qualified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
(Can you imagine her face to face with Putin?)
Part 3 (The very latest):
How The bailout will help healthcare.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/25/palin-bailout-healthcare/
She is so out of her league. Scarily so. We are very seriously f*#ked if she is elected and is ever called upon to do more than attend funerals.
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dirtbag
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2008 - 05:49pm PT
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In her own words:
COURIC: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was -- kind of made to -- carry -- I don't know, you know? Reporters --
COURIC: Mocked?
PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.
COURIC: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our -- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia --
COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We -- we do -- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where -- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to -- to our state.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Sep 25, 2008 - 06:13pm PT
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And she wants to "ramp it up in Afghanistan" too. That'll sure help the economy!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/25/politics/horserace/entry4477239.shtml
Katie Couric: Why is it much more challenging there? Can you explain that?
Sarah Palin: The logistics that we are already suggesting here, not having enough troops in the area right now. The… things like the terrain even in Afghanistan and that border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, where, you know, we believe that-- Bin Laden is-- is hiding out right now and… and is still such a leader of this terrorist movement. There… there are many more challenges there. So, again, I believe that… a surge in Afghanistan also will lead us to victory there as it has proven to have done in Iraq. And as I say, Katie, that we cannot afford to retreat, to withdraw in Iraq. That's not gonna get us any better off in Afghanistan either. And as our leaders are telling us in our military, we do need to ramp it up in Afghanistan, counting on our friends and allies to assist with us there because these terrorists who hate America, they hate what we stand for with the… the freedoms, the democracy, the… the women's rights, the tolerance, they hate what it is that we represent and our allies, too, and our friends, what they represent. If we were… were to allow a stronghold to be captured by these terrorists then the world is in even greater peril than it is today. We cannot afford to lose in Afghanistan.
(edit- tooth, found it amusing that you initially posted your msg below 3 times, and have since pared it to 1 )
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tooth
Mountain climber
B.C.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 06:22pm PT
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Ha ha ha.
How many times does a stupid man have to prove it? The dumb ones never stop.
And Americans will keep chosing the poorest choice - a brain-damaged strokee and a soccer mom to run the US.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Sep 25, 2008 - 06:50pm PT
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I try to stay out of the Palin thing because every breath we spend on her is one less breath spent on discussing the real issues.
Buuuuuuut....... this is well is too deep to ignore. It's like the the Republicans have sequestered Palin for a couple of weeks and filled her with a whole bunch of new words, concepts and ideas. Problem is she can't quite figure out how to string them all together. It's like she was a Scrabble box of words and ideas that was shaken up and tossed out to spew randomly during the rare interviews.
She's getting ripped apart in front of our eyes and I wonder how or what she'll do when she returns to Wasilla/Juneau/Anchorage after losing the election.
Is there any precedent for an ex-candidate suing her running mate because he made a poor choice and therefore defamed her character?
Her debate with Biden is going to be painful to watch.
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dirtbag
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2008 - 06:54pm PT
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maldaly, those were my thoughts too.
Last week or so up until last night I mostly turned my attention to other things. The Palin thing had been pretty well discussed. But I find this interview so frightening that I think it is every bit as important as other issues, such as the economy, that are currently receiving news time. She is so completely, thoroughly unqualified it would be laughable if the issues she could potentially face as Pres weren't so serious.
This interview goes beyond my worst fears about her.
And what does it say about McCain that he picked her?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:01pm PT
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Are we up to 50 Palin threads yet?
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Jeremy Handren
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NV
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:02pm PT
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Couldn't get through it dirt.... a complete cringe, I actually felt bad for her.
Although I feel a lot worse about how her nomination must look to the rest of the world.....the world, upon whose faith in us, we rely.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:04pm PT
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TomatoEs
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:06pm PT
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Man, I thought BDS was bad...
Now it's PDS!
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Redwreck
Social climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:10pm PT
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Our next door neighbors are foreign countries? Something should be DONE. Maybe shoot 'em from airplanes?
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:11pm PT
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hahaha!
a vice presidential candidate....
and people wonder why I never vote.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:23pm PT
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OMG!!!! I'm voting for Obama now fer sure, dude! He's way more qualified. And Biden, hell yeah, that's it, that's my ticket now!
Thanks for opening my deluded eyes.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 25, 2008 - 07:39pm PT
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You are about to try to elect someone who can't even put together a coherent thought about policy.
I guess they like consistency.
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fowweezer
Trad climber
Pleasant Grove, UT
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Sep 25, 2008 - 10:03pm PT
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dirtbag wrote:
"And what does it say about McCain that he picked her? "
This is the point that needs to get more attention than its getting.
I, too, felt embarassed for her. I think I actually pity her.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 25, 2008 - 11:10pm PT
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Yeah, like what kind of Governor is she?
She should ah hollered over that Bering straight and invited those so called commies over for dinner some time.
No class man, none.
They could ah sat around after diner and drank vodka and talked sh'it about Putin and Bush and laughed their asses off.
Stupid Governor .........
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Sep 26, 2008 - 03:12am PT
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OK seriously the only thing more embarrassing than claiming her proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy cred is that she's actually STILL DEFENDING IT. Totally insane.
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