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Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 10, 2008 - 04:17pm PT
The idea of the forum is you register a name. you then post questions or stuff that the rest of us find entertaining, inspiring, useful etc.

I appreciate that the great majority of the users on this site respect that. Thank you to those people that are making the ST forum cool!

The idea is not to register a user name from a recently created "fake" email address so that you can then anonymously slander other people.

To those people who are doing this, please stop.

Thank you,

 Chris
MisterE

Social climber
My Inner Nut
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:31pm PT
Thanks for that Chris - it would be a better site because of it.

Erik Wolfe
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Yonder (out in the sagebrush)
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:34pm PT
I heartily agree...less slander is always a good idea.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:34pm PT
I'm all for slander, as long as we know who's slinging it...
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Yonder (out in the sagebrush)
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:36pm PT
I'd actually go with that, too. No masks, then....
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:37pm PT
thanks Chris, great suggestion....and sometimes I agree with hardman, slander can be humorous at times, but I guess the good general rule is NOT to slander or wrongly accuse others. Good rule in life. Russ can be hellarious at times..uh as long as I'm not the "victim".
Peace
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:38pm PT
Yeah, what THE MAN said. One name/user would also reduce the volume of off-topic and ad hominem posts.

I am knott Spartacus.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 10, 2008 - 04:52pm PT
Thanks for the positive responses.

I should clarify one thing:

I'm not a big fan of slander. But I realize its a part of the real climbing world, www climbing world, and the rest of the world.

My main issue is with the slander that uses recently created user names and "fake" emails expressly so that the slander can be anonymous.

That is why the post is titled what it is: I think people who respect their user names will get more out of the site (as will the rest of us).
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:56pm PT
Mighty Hiker:
I am knott Spartacus.

I'm knott either but like Mighty Hiker I've got a pseudonym that seems to fool no one.

Regarding Chris' point in the OP, I could not agree more. Sock puppets are a bane of forums.
Cracko

Trad climber
Quartz Hill, California
Aug 10, 2008 - 04:57pm PT
Hey Chris,

Is it OK if I still slander my brothers ??


Cracko
Standing Strong

Trad climber
almost all the way home
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:00pm PT
hey chris,

speaking of usernames, could you please change mine to t*r? that way i can keep my own posting history. i DON'T want to set up a new account but standing strong is the dumbest username ever plus it's like three years old. i've been trying to trade the beer i won from hardman knott in exchange for hardman knott's changing my username, but no dice. if you change it, he can just give the six pack of green labels to YOU!

cheers

t*r
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:05pm PT
Just to nitpick for a moment. The legal definition of libel is defamation that's printed - in writing. Slander is oral - spoken. You can defame someone on the internet. You can libel someone. But you probably can't slander someone, at least not on SuperTopo.

According to Black's Law Dictionary, and the Oxford English Dictionary.

The damages for libel are generally greater than for slander, as it tends to be more permanent, and have a wider audience. British and Canadian law with regard to libel and slander are more conservative than that of the U.S.A. You can say things in the U.S.A., especially about politicans and other public figures, that you'd never get away with here.

Ad hominem attacks are another matter. Where you have nothing intelligent or relevant to say about the issue being debated, but don't like the other person, so just say something obnoxious or rude about her/him. Too much of that around here.
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:21pm PT
thanks for leading by example chris,

your tr threads are always great , exciting and inspiring.

you dont waste anytime schooling the childish. your straight to the point.

i love your site and proud to be here.

thanks for making that possible.

best regards gregg (candyman)
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:27pm PT
Chris~ my user name has not changed ever.

i've chatted here since 02'.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:33pm PT
let's delete that munge guy, can't keep his trap shut.

Ottawa Doug

Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
I totally agree! Unfortunately it seems that Chris has to make this same reminder a few times each year. It is fine to disagree with someone, even strongly, but there is no need to act like a bunch of five year olds.

Cheers,

Doug
Trippel40

Social climber
CO
Aug 10, 2008 - 05:59pm PT
Chris,

I appreciate the fact that when the routine reminder becomes necessary, you always post it with restraint and maturity. Even though you have to do it again and again.

No getting around human nature so its appreciated when someone makes the best of it.
quartziteflight

climber
Aug 10, 2008 - 06:02pm PT

:-)
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 10, 2008 - 06:07pm PT
hey there chris... say, as always, it is surely nice to see you post here... your're like a good land-tilling gardner, tending to the field---doing your best to have a great crop...

since i first stepped in (due to finding my brothers name here) i have hoped to be one of the many path's through your "field-property" that would grow well, along side what you've started....

god bless, to you, chris... from what i've learned, it is a hard job to tend the fields at times...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Aug 10, 2008 - 06:30pm PT
Hey Standing Strong - ever heard of private e-mail?



As I suggested before, e-mail Chris and ask him. Better yet, pick a name and stick it.

BTW, thanks again for providing the image above. You do have the 6-pack of green labels
coming, and Russ has a beer I owe him from several months ago, and two for Nature from
several years ago. Incidentally, Nature is still holding $75.00 for last year's Sushi Fest,
as I told him to put towards a possible future event. So please try to relax in the meantime...
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