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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 22, 2019 - 11:26am PT
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2019/03/22/americas-reindeer-have-quietly-gone-extinct-lower/?utm_term=.76d32453f1c6
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Mar 22, 2019 - 05:12pm PT
So sad
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Mar 22, 2019 - 05:18pm PT
At some point, possibly in many of our lifetimes, the only animals left on this planet will be for food. That's pretty much the present situation in China. They eat absolutely everything that moves and there isn't much left of any of it.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Mar 22, 2019 - 05:39pm PT
Been curious about them since a child. Here is a book with info written a few years ago.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 22, 2019 - 06:19pm PT
Rudolf is doing okay in Alaska where he shares the tundra with around 950,000 friends and neighbors.
Maybe climate change is part of the problem...pikas are moving higher in the mountains and pumas are occupying parts of SE Alaska and Northern BC where they have never been seen before.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 22, 2019 - 06:40pm PT
hey there say, ken m, and Q-ball... thanks for sharing...


and, donini, for some more info...

and frumy, JLP..

sad, :(

Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Mar 22, 2019 - 08:04pm PT
I have always wondered about caribou and Moose in the lower 48.

The arrival of moose has always been interesting considering the "why question " yes, not talking about introduced pops.

Alces alces south, ol' rangifer tarandus north.

What is the farthest south in historical times a caribou has been seen? Truly curious.

Another book, "grass beyond the mountains" has a few historical observations.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Mar 22, 2019 - 09:03pm PT
With global warming and putrid air in the population belt, Alaska could become very attractive in the near future.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 22, 2019 - 09:34pm PT
Bloody buggers think they own the damn road in Sweden!

But the Swedes know how to deal with them...
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Mar 22, 2019 - 09:59pm PT
What is the farthest south in historical times a caribou has been seen? Truly curious.

The fish and wildlife service says They used to live in Maine and in the states surrounding the Great lakes.
The Algonquian name for them was Qalipu.

Louis and Clark county Montana has a Caribou peak, so maybe there, but they did exist in the Idaho panhandle once. (And the Spokane mountains)

Defenders of Wildlife claims some are still seen occasionally. They appear to be border crossers.
https://defenders.org/woodland-caribou/basic-facts
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 22, 2019 - 11:43pm PT
I wonder why?

Lizards are much more plentiful

And you can easily carry a couple weeks supply

justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 23, 2019 - 05:59am PT
It is terribly sad- but was predicted to happen. Just too vulnerable a species with too few #s.
Humans just suck.

As a side: I saw a fence lizard above 10,000 ft last year. Proof of global warming? As if the pikas didn't have enough issues. Now they have to share a rock with a Komodo dragon (relatively speaking).

Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 23, 2019 - 09:52am PT
Reno means Reindeer. Coincidentally unrelated
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