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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 18, 2019 - 10:49am PT
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For all of the caricatures of Jackie Chan, I really like him- he's always struck me as a good person, overall. I can see him working out well in a role like this- hope it turns out as one of the 'good' climbing films.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Mar 18, 2019 - 05:38pm PT
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I always felt he was an awesome human and a great martial artist. because he is so enamored with Charlie chaplin and slapstic sometimes his movies are a bit too cheesy ……..
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Mar 18, 2019 - 06:04pm PT
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Hopefully they will use Chinese climbers who were there as technical advisors to include details that we don't know about the climb yet. It was very much doubted at the time in the West, in part because they claimed to have summited in the dark waving Mao's little red book, etc. It will be interesting to see how they handle the Cultural Revolution aspect of it. I also wonder if they will mention seeing "an old dead Englishman" on the way up whom we are still not sure of, whether Mallory or Irvine.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 18, 2019 - 06:12pm PT
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I’m sure it will be a big hit in Tibet. Actually, it well could as there are more chinese in Tibet now than Tibetans, right?
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Mar 18, 2019 - 09:21pm PT
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His movies are great fun in addition to the amazing stunts, who cares if they are a bit cheesy.
These days he seems to be a fairly strong environmentalist. He has a touring art show, and the art he has made is recycled trash.
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r2d2
Trad climber
East Bay
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Mar 20, 2019 - 01:13pm PT
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they claimed to have summited in the dark waving Mao's little red book, etc. It will be interesting to see how they handle the Cultural Revolution aspect of it.
Jan, the Cultural Revolution started in 1966, 6 years after the climb. And they did not wave Mao's little red book. "The three members remained at the summit for 15 minutes, and left a 20 cm tall statue of Mao Zedong, a national flag, and a paper note."
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 20, 2019 - 02:44pm PT
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Remains to be seen how slogging up moderate snow slopes can be made cinematically interesting.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 20, 2019 - 03:14pm PT
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^^^ the key is the close-ups on facial expressions, raspy breathing, icicle eye brows and mustaches, and the flash-back montage of family sacrifices and losses that culminated in this potentially triumphant moment with a final herculean task ahead.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 20, 2019 - 03:31pm PT
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You need to be a screenwriter. Tilting the camera might help...no trees to give the true perspective.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 20, 2019 - 04:31pm PT
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r2d2, apparently you don’t know who Jan is. If she says they claimed to wave Mao’s Little Red Book then that’s good enough for me.
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Chris Jones
Social climber
Glen Ellen, CA
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Mar 20, 2019 - 09:48pm PT
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It was a privilege to have Wang Fuzhou as Chinese liaison officer during our 1981 attempt on the Kangshung Face of Everest. As one of the three members of the 1960 party to climb Everest's North Ridge, he was rightly highly regarded by the Chinese we met. Around base camp we discussed that historic climb, and were left in no doubt that they had made the ascent.
I well remember the doubts expressed in the west about the climb at the time. For example, the AAJ opined: "The details are such that mountaineers in nearly all parts of the climbing world have received the news with considerable skepticism."
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Mar 21, 2019 - 08:31am PT
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^^^Ha! That's awesome Randisi. Good ol' Fake Peak.
Dimly recall there was a rumor of some cordage or some such left as a rappel anchor on the technical bit where the ladder is? Past J Do's snowy low angle slopes maybe...
Not well known history. Neat to see some attention.
English dead?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Mar 21, 2019 - 09:07am PT
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The Alpine Journal for 1961 carried a translation of the official Chinese report of the expedition, leading to the ascent on May 24th/25th, 1960 by Wang Fu-chou, Chu Yin-hua, and Konbu, with Liu Lien-man in support. Interestingly, it was analysis in the Alpine Journal a few years later, IIRC by Michael Ward, that proved from photographs that the team had gotten to, or very nearly to, the summit. They had pre-war photos looking out from below the Second Step, photos from the top in 1953, and photos from 1960. The angles etc were quite clear.
The Chinese account is a bit over-dramatized, but then you read accounts of some of the big European expeditions of the time and they weren't much better. Imperialist claptrap.
Somewhere I vaguely recall that most of the personnel on the 1960 "Chinese" expedition, and again those in 1975, were in fact Tibetan. In 1960, the Chinese had just finished violently suppressing the Tibetan independence movement, which might have created challenges.
The Indians were trying the ascent from the other side the same day, and experienced somewhat different weather.
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