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Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 9, 2019 - 01:10pm PT
Hey everyone!

Me and my twin brother have been making bouldering videos for about a year now, posting a new one every Monday on our YouTube channel, BadWater Productions: https://www.youtube.com/badwaterproductions

We're from Washington and mostly post videos on local boulders. Here is our most recent video: Metroid Prime (v6) - Gold Bar, WA.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Enjoy!

Also, I'm new to this site so if my post is misplaced let me know. If you guys like it I'll post more.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 9, 2019 - 07:12pm PT
No No No,You're welcome,
its a free for all 'round here.
You do need to be jumped in!
hope you have a thick skin
we're just lowly pebble wrestlers and not all that well respected around here.
 Do a search for the bouldering threads
you also can expect some stiff competition.
never use dub-step!! & you'll be a head of the ... well better than this

https://youtu.be/095fg8P3zzk

Not to be judgemental, but turn off the sound
[Click to View YouTube Video]

Dub-step can be key, actually, if used very sparingly


& I subscribed to your guys feed a week ago)(?)
Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2019 - 05:36pm PT
Cheers man!

Yeah, when my twin brother and I started our channel we noticed a lot of bouldering videos had dubstep music, which we thought was odd. Bouldering feels much more mellow to us, and we thought a smooth jazz vibe better reflected how we feel while bouldering.

Like the music in this video: [Click to View YouTube Video]
T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Feb 11, 2019 - 12:24am PT
https://www.instagram.com/badwaterproductions
Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2019 - 11:50am PT
This Monday's video features one of my favorite routes in Washington. And definitely one of the best V6's I've ever climbed: The 5 Star Arete, Gold Bar, WA.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Feb 11, 2019 - 12:07pm PT
Nice work man. A+ on the camera work, creativity and music. C- for your subject wearing a tank top. Nothing says "bro, check out my sick V1 proj bro" like a tank top in Washington State. All kidding aside, nice work and keep em coming! I make a fair amount of small budge climbing vids and I can appreciate all the time in shooting and editing. Well done.

Scott

https://vimeo.com/35487639
Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2019 - 12:39pm PT
That rock at 1:05 looks so sick! I'd be terrified climbing that one! xD

And you know, we're proud members of the Tank-top and Jeans League. Though, often I will take the shirt off. If you really want to send, you can't have a shirt weighing you down! lol
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 11, 2019 - 05:40pm PT
A bump to get you at the top of the page.


I am posting this here because I think there is something to be learned.
For me & I'LL bet many others the music makes then breaks this video.
This goes off the rails right when the send goes down!

when they choose a rap song.
It may fit well but has a limited market
& might be disruptive to the audience.
Especially when compared to the earlier "contemplative" music. [Click to View YouTube Video]Then too, there is the length?
(they have a 39+ minute one? this is their short video?& It was almost all I could take)
Long but not to Long - black-out cuts?
Sure change things up but there is a subtle but important distinction,
between holding & keeping attention & losing it.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 11, 2019 - 07:41pm PT
the competition is deep & steep,
There was a video that opened with a shot of an orange caterpillar?
I've got a little Bear,
Credit: Gnome Ofthe Diabase
Green & spare
Credit: Gnome Ofthe Diabase
"Plenty Steep
Credit: Gnome Ofthe Diabase
Not hard, basically a leap
Credit: Gnome Ofthe Diabase



Got it - maybe a bit long'
[Click to View YouTube Video]

This next is better, but too short

[Click to View YouTube Video]

I will post more of your videos
Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2019 - 09:01pm PT
We like to keep some variety with the length of videos. If the project was particularly engaging, then we like to show the whole process, as seen in the Stage Fright video.

Other times we like to get a quick video made, about 2-3 minutes, for people who don't have 20 minutes to watch a route get projected.

Other videos have several climbs in them, which of course lengthens the time.

What duration do you guys think is the ideal bouldering video?
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Feb 12, 2019 - 10:00am PT
"How long should a bouldering video be?"

Honestly? No longer than 45 seconds. MAX. I know, I know, its sad. But we as a society are addicted to quick visual fixes and we are oversaturated with stoke from several visual feeds on our freakin' phones.


It takes a real artist to share a story in 45 seconds. And lets be honest, every bouldering proj story is the same.

Dude finds boulder.
Dude pets holds.
Dude cant send at first.
Dude works it over and over falling off at various heights.
Dude sends.

But if you show visually intriguing shots, have some nice music, tittilate us with some visuals and tell the story quickly, it can be a nice little watch on a day at the office or on the bus ride home.

In my opinion, you have to have a real story to tell to make a 3-6 minute video that holds peoples attention. Check out the stuff by Cheyne Lempe. He has mega projects (Big walls in Baffin, Speed solos, entire seasons in the Valley) that he bundles up into nice little bite sized "films" that are stunning and captivating. Nine minutes max on this one and it was a real big proj. For bouldering, 45 seconds for you and your bro in the woods. I'll watch a pro climber send a V14 FA for about two-three minutes max even if its in a world class location and the climbing is rad. Just my two cents.

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Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2019 - 10:17am PT
Very interesting points of view.

It seems everyone has a different ideal climbing video. I know personally I really enjoy the long form, ~45 minute climbing videos that show a bunch of climbs and people having fun. These videos allow me to work out while being stoked on other people climbing. Sort of a mental inspiration to have me keep training to climb hard.

For example:
[Click to View YouTube Video]

I've watched this video a bunch of times. Never gets old, and always brings out the psyche in me.
Kyle Love

Boulder climber
Redmond, Washington
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2019 - 11:02am PT
Bumping this thread because we just released our first gym video!

Jake and I wanted to start expanding our channel and make some gym videos, and we thought what better place to start than with a climbing holds video! So here is our take on explaining all the different holds you'll encounter in the gym, and what the holds might look like outside on real rock.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Enjoy!
T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Apr 15, 2019 - 08:21pm PT
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