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Aeriq

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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 8, 2019 - 08:21am PT
The "Starlite" story is fascinating, if a little sad. Here is the multi-part BBC documentary:

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Here is a video showing how to make a similar product. It responds the same way as the material in the documentary, from what I can see. Amazingly simple to make, and the description of how it works is cool too:

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Be interested to get some thoughts from the scientists in our community.
WBraun

climber
Feb 8, 2019 - 08:41am PT
Pretty cool Eric.

I can say a lot about this but then all these modern puffed up so-called scientists here will just get butthurt ..... :-)

i-b-goB

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Nutty
Feb 8, 2019 - 08:43am PT
Brilliant!
apogee

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Feb 8, 2019 - 09:13am PT
That is really, really fascinating.
Aeriq

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100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2019 - 09:32am PT
We were wondering the same thing about if the properties change by applying various types of paint, varnish or other coatings. Also, if there is UV break-down, moisture issues, etc.

We have a kiln for firing cloisonne and glass - Maidy is picking up some baking soda and corn starch as I type (got lots of glue).

We're gonna do some experimenting...

Edit: Interestingly, Skip said the firing boards for the kiln are starch-based...
apogee

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Feb 8, 2019 - 09:38am PT
Such simple stuff...amazing that this science hasn't been applied more broadly to our world.

Makes you wonder what other kinds of simple materials can perform extremely useful functions in our lives.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 8, 2019 - 09:55am PT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intumescent
Aeriq

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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2019 - 10:05am PT
http://www.starlitethermashield.com/

Edit: Laser blasting

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 8, 2019 - 10:28am PT
the AWE test was with lasers, not nuclear radiation.

There is no way that the material (or others like it) can withstand nuclear radiations at high energy and intensity.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 8, 2019 - 10:39am PT
other simple materials?
e.g. Aerogels

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 8, 2019 - 10:43am PT
https://www.metabunk.org/how-to-make-starlite-the-miracle-insulating-material-of-maurice-ward.t10228/

Parlor trick

white glue is amazing, can also be used to clean LPs

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 8, 2019 - 10:49am PT
that might take some time to clean a moderately sized LP collection!
apogee

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Feb 8, 2019 - 11:05am PT
There's not a chance I would do that with my vinyl collection. No matter how many YouTube videos are out there!

Edit:
Last winter/spring, I took on the project of digitizing my entire vinyl collection...a relatively modest collection of 300 albums. Hereís the process I used:


A German-made discwasher ('disco anti-stat'), using a French-made vinyl cleaning solution (L'Art du Son)...spin wash each one, then air dry...then digitize/modify each one. Took me 4-5 months of diligent work. No wood glue involved!
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Feb 8, 2019 - 11:43am PT
Cats out of the bag.

NASA will apparently be replacing the $20 million heat shield with corn starch.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/cutting-edge-heat-shield-installed-on-nasa-s-parker-solar-probe
Aeriq

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100-year Visitor
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2019 - 01:08pm PT
the AWE test was with lasers, not nuclear radiation.

I stand corrected, Ed. Also, it's the firing plates that are starch-based...

Gonna do some 'sperimenting!

WBraun

climber
Feb 8, 2019 - 01:27pm PT
LOL !!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 8, 2019 - 01:31pm PT
Strong werk, Apogee! But Iím not digitizing sh!t, Iím gonna get a better turntable,
just not the $15,000 one for sale down the street!
Is that the Knosti or the SpinClean disc washer?
apogee

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Feb 8, 2019 - 01:47pm PT
After doing some digging around amongst audiophiles, this is the cleaning system I settled on:


I'm not a total audiophile techy purist, but I did want to do a reasonably good job- the 'disco anti-stat' is a little difficult to find, but seemed to be the most efficient & effective way to do it without getting too deep in the process....esp. if you are going to do dozens and dozens of albums!

I used an Audio-Technica USB turntable...not a super high end machine, but worked out quite acceptably. After recording it, I used Audacity software to correct, label, and export each album. That was especially time consuming.

Edit
The cleaning solution that normally comes with it can't be shipped into the US, so you can only get the cleaning mechanism itself. Which was ok...'L'Art du Son' is supposed to be a very good solution that also reduces static.
WBraun

climber
Feb 8, 2019 - 01:51pm PT
Can your hearing tell the difference between analog recordings and digital recording materials?
apogee

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Feb 8, 2019 - 01:56pm PT
Not really, but again, I'm not a hardcore purist. I'm sure true audiophiles could pick it out- getting the correction process where you want it with Audacity takes some trial and error, unless you've got some sound mixing experience (I thought of KSolem more than a few times while doing it).

I mostly listen to my music on my home stereo while working around the house, on my car stereo while driving to wherever, or on my IPhone while bopping around the mountains. For those purposes, the process worked just fine for me.
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