OT threads on ST nearly always have unintended consequences

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donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 13, 2018 - 06:50am PT

Circling the Dwain is an example. Posters get off topic on OT threads and they achieve a life of their own which often isn’t very pretty.
Climbing threads (the original purpose of ST...duh) keep people more focused and on topic but, alas, they seem too boring for this crowd.

mtnyoung

Trad climber

Twain Harte, California

Dec 13, 2018 - 06:57am PT

I'm not sure that "boring" is the right word, Jim. I'd say "diverse."

One of the fun things about this forum is that the conversation isn't just about one topic (climbing). It's much more diverse. I like it.

MH2

Boulder climber

Andy Cairns

Dec 13, 2018 - 07:42am PT

One should be choosy when picking which threads to look at. Some good stuff will be missed but so will almost all the bad.

A good rule is to only look at threads by posters you have learned to trust.

I'm having my doubts about this donini guy, now. He was so good.

Ghost

climber

A long way from where I started

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:25am PT

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:37am PT

Has JD been deputized by the OT PoPo?

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:49am PT

Yeah, we need to keep this about climbing, not camper vans!

Don Paul

Social climber

Washington DC

Dec 13, 2018 - 10:04am PT

I come here to read the climbing stories, but there just aren't that many of them. For other subjects, the opinions of the fearless climbers are always interesting. As are the opinions of people who live in their cars.

Mike Friedrichs

Sport climber

City of Salt

Dec 13, 2018 - 10:20am PT

What constitutes a "climbing topic?" Is climate change off topic? I certainly don't think it is. What about social conditions that allow for more disadvantaged people to have opportunities to climb? Is that off topic? Access, affordability, communication, leisure time, advocacy, mentorship are all solidly on topic as far as I am concerned.

I don't think it's the topic that throws these threads off the rails. Rather it's the inability of certain people to think critically. What did Cosmic ever contribute? Some may think that he is a good person (I think he is a bigot), but what did he ever post that was thought provoking in any way? I won't miss him.

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Dec 13, 2018 - 10:27am PT

What did Cosmic ever contribute?

he was the authority on expedition planning for New
Jack City. though some of his TRs were rather brief

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2808762/New-Jack-City-TR

Jim Clipper

climber

Dec 13, 2018 - 10:57am PT

Anti. I spent some formative years in Apple Valley. Mom and Uncles went to VVHS when the ville housed around 6k people. When the major employer was the man who ran the nearby military bases.

If I went back, I'd probably agree, but my tribal nature makes me take exception to criticisms of white collar climbing. Where else do you go to shoot guns, meth, and sport climb from the tailgate on your truck? *

The desert really can pretty up, but it all comes back slowly it seems.

*all at once

Trump

climber

Dec 13, 2018 - 12:17pm PT

Nicely said.

For me, I’m glad that we all have the free will to create something like this thread, despite it being likely to turn out not pretty, while also commenting on the duh-ness in other people’s thinking, if that’s what you, for example, choose to do.

How we choose to use it - that’s on us.

Seems like maybe there’s some commonalities in how we choose to use it, that maybe we’d prefer not to notice in ourselves, while also calling attention to it in other people?

NutAgain!

Trad climber

South Pasadena, CA

Dec 13, 2018 - 01:17pm PT

I went climbing with Cosmic a few years back near Apple Valley, and had a great day with him. In person he is mellow, kind, somewhat taciturn. At least on that one and only day I hung out with him.

I must say I do like the in-person persona more than the online! But hey, we each come here for our own reasons, to get our own type of fix whatever that might be, and nobody else can change whatever that is for each of us.

For me, the bar on banning people would be pretty high. I just skim over the gutter conversations and it doesn't really register- sort of an internal grease monkey thing.

zBrown

Ice climber

Dec 13, 2018 - 09:45pm PT

I only seem to get dog sweater ads

Maybe I need to get out more?

On the OTHER hand

Every Picture tells a Story Don't It

johntp

Trad climber

Little Rock and Loving It

Dec 13, 2018 - 11:49pm PT

One of the fun things about this forum is that the conversation isn't just about one topic (climbing). It's much more diverse. I like it.

Yup. We are fortunate to have a crowd here that has been in situations most can't imagine. Whatever is on your mind or problem you have, someone here can relate.

It is a campfire. People that have done incredible things just trading stories and thoughts.

MH2

Boulder climber

Andy Cairns

Dec 14, 2018 - 07:17am PT

The Google Eye is quite perceptive.

While we are off-topic, I find that Google can be quirky, inscrutable, or just guessing wildly. Here are the 2 choices it filled in for me after I entered "level of c".

Winemaker

Sport climber

Yakima, WA

Dec 14, 2018 - 07:34am PT

Hey Ghost, I thought Donini was a Malbec man. Is that at your new digs?

zBrown

Ice climber

Dec 14, 2018 - 08:49am PT

I got these on the mh2 text entry

..Curriculum
..Change
..Criteria
..Chat bots and intelligent conversational agents
..Credability

And

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