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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 8, 2018 - 01:48pm PT
At this point we are talking about a body recovery. No need to up the risk factor.

I participated in my first rescue with the RMNP SAR hauling a stokes 3/4 mile.
Likely they did what they could. Dad should have taught common sense to his boy.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 8, 2018 - 02:06pm PT
I was in the valley one one of my first trips there over by the area FKA Curry Village and saw a group yelling at Rangers, getting really ugly. Apparently there were hikers stranded on the ledges above and their friends were upset over the speed of the rescue. Was a real WTF moment for me.

GoFundMe? check

https://www.gofundme.com/wggja-micah-tice
zip

Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
Dec 8, 2018 - 02:36pm PT
Sad, but totally preventable.
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Dec 8, 2018 - 02:36pm PT
The missing man was seen leaving TH in severe blizzard conditions at 630 AM with tennis shoes, sweatpants and sweatshirt, light gloves and a light blue backpack

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for this guy. Sounds like a case of evolution in action.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 8, 2018 - 03:23pm PT
It sounds to me like he didn't want to come back. Why else would he wander out into a blizzard on a mountain with no protective clothing? I wonder how things were going for him at the Academy prep school.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Dec 8, 2018 - 03:29pm PT
Ksolem, I wonder.
perswig

climber
Dec 8, 2018 - 04:20pm PT
what role federal bureaucracy plays in this whole situation, other than that it obviously failed to prevent an unprepared individual from making really poor decisions

sigh.
I'm still having trouble with the idea that -anyone- is tasked with that responsibility, other than the individual and his/her immediate circle.
And being "owed" a rescue, complete/competent or otherwise, just seems an odd notion and has been debated here before.

Stressful and heartbreaking for his family; hopefully the complaints are emotion-driven and not expectation.
Dale
monolith

climber
state of being
Dec 8, 2018 - 04:37pm PT
Sounds like a case of invincible youth syndrome vs mother nature.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:08pm PT
^^^ Yes but equally likely is that he held his son to equally unrealistic standards.
the museum

Trad climber
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:12pm PT
You know, my son of 22 and his wife were rescued on Longs a couple years ago on the Loft. Relatively prepared and he had done the route before with me.

SAR found them and walked them out. Totally on top of it and terrific in all that SAR did. Professional and caring, efficient and experienced.

SAR Longs when you read this - THANK YOU.

Those are my thoughts.

Offering condolences on the matter at hand.

the museum
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:14pm PT
Kinda what Jim said. The crazy grief is impossible to imagine unless you've been there--and I haven't. We've got to cut immediate family a lot of slack. A beautiful young woman has been missing from the Bishop area for weeks, and my heart breaks every time I see her smiling face in the posters around town. It seems unlikely that they'll ever get her back. The lost hiker, though, was either suicidal or just incredibly naive or ignorant of what it takes to survive in such conditions. Ugh.

BAd
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:20pm PT
Realistically we can't know what was in the hikers mind nor the Dads.

Right now I'm watching a pastel pink/orange sunset spread color over our hills. Mixed blues hang above and a slim sickle moon hangs high up in the purple peace.

I wish life was like this evening, an observation of beauty.

Instead there are people hurting and missing and only guesses from outsiders as to what went down.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:31pm PT
This same story gets repeated every few years.

http://forums.protrails.com/forums/topic/474-ft-collins-man-dies-on-longs-peak/

He was found on the Summit of Longs Peak wearing a hooded sweatshirt, jeans, and tennis shoes.

If I had some time, I'd go up there for $10k.

It's been cloudy, snowy and cold the past week. He's most definitely dead and frozen solid by now, even in the best of caves.

Supposed to be nice out tomorrow. It won't be long before someone stumbles into him. It's a busy area.

Super dumb parents. The acorn doesn't seem to have fallen far from the tree here.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 8, 2018 - 05:41pm PT
What dad does for a living?

Runs an organization that trains chaplains. His attitude seems to run counter to that of a chaplain.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ticebenjamin/

KokaKola

climber
From the East to the West
Dec 8, 2018 - 09:00pm PT
The parents held a news conference to plead to Trump and Zinke.

Is it not problematic to fabricate a situation and peg "the military" at-large against ROMO SAR? Even during grief?

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 8, 2018 - 09:04pm PT
Consider the danger that SAR personnel are constantly put in by having to search for people who irresponsibly put themselves in harms way.
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Dec 8, 2018 - 09:23pm PT
Sneakers in a blizzard? Finger pointing daddy dearest should take a serious look at the other 4 fingers pointing squarely back at himself. Parents need to instill some common sense in their progeny.
Trump

climber
Dec 9, 2018 - 07:56am PT
Oh shoot my condolences to all involved.

If you die, you probably f*#ked up. The same is true for SAR as it is for everyone else. SAR is a risky business, but some people do it anyway. I’ll bet they have mom’s and dads and kids too.

Try not to die people. But if you do, I’m gonna try to forgive you for it and offer my condolences.

Among this crew, we give and get an inordinate amount of approval for the way we risk unnecessarily dying. Let’s try not to judge the way other people die, or the way their families and friends react to them dying, too harshly. We’re all gonna die one way or another.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 9, 2018 - 09:21am PT
If SAR was up there for 6 days, starting 3 days after he went missing - they went way, way above and beyond and deserve no criticism.

All the trails were probably covered before lunch on the first day. The guy was probably dead 2 days before the search even started.

Oh please help me Mr President Trump.

Since he obviously wasn’t on a trail, I say he got lost before even reaching treeline and they’ll find him in a tree well in the spring.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Dec 9, 2018 - 10:59am PT
Maybe he went out of his way to be seen by the people at the TH and on the trail and the small blue backpack had what he needed to disappear himself.
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