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cavemonkey

Ice climber
ak
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 12, 2018 - 01:20pm PT
Anyone ever use these devices and trust them like a mini-?
mikeyschaefer

climber
Sport-o-land
Nov 12, 2018 - 01:58pm PT
I actually just got one last week and have two days out with it. I use it as my lower device with a camp Lyft on top. I extend the Lyft with with a draw, similar to how Petzl says to rig a micro traxion setup for fix line top roping. This is important with the Backup as I've been told they might not engage if a device is pressing down on it from the top. I've definitely still got some testing to do with it.

So far I am really liking the Backup, mainly due to the ease in which I am able to go back down the rope to work out moves. All I have to do is pinch the Lyft with one hand and have one hand on the rope and I slowly lower myself down. The Backup when it is in the up/down mode easily slides down the rope.

Only downside I see to the device is it is heavier so for longer routes where I'm not going to be working moves I'd still go with a Mini. It also doesn't have as many uses as a Mini which is a downside in certain scenarios.

I'm yet to use the Backup in a single device scenario which I probably won't ever be doing. I'm a big fan of two devices if there is chance I'll actually be falling. I will occasionaly roll with a single device but generally the climbing would have to be at least a few number grades below my ability.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Nov 12, 2018 - 02:09pm PT
Thank You Both!


Awesomeness of the taco persists.
Pete_N

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 12, 2018 - 04:31pm PT
Mikey...what's a Camp Lyft?

EDIT: ah...Camp Lift

https://www.camp-usa.com/outdoor/product/rope-tools/lift-ascender/
couchmaster

climber
Nov 12, 2018 - 04:46pm PT
I use one. It goes low with a steel biner and the stout sling that came with it to clip off on my chest harness with a Microtrax or minitrax (whichever one I can find on top:-) Solid device for TR soloing IMO. To transition to rappel once you top out, you still need to swap it out if you are rapping though......

They're designed to clip off on the back of an industrial harness, they're pretty adamant that the weight of the steel locker is important to orient the device and activate the lock. I'm not totally convinced of that, but use it anyway despite the weight disadvantage. I like it so much that I bought a 2nd one, but they don't play well together. I loan it out to friends and it is universally liked.

**Note, I have soloed with the Soloist, the Solo Aid, Grigri and lead solo with Healyje's method, (when I have too) with a Edelrid Eddy. (photo below)


If this was Mountain Project, there would already have 20 pissy arguments about the rope the first poster is using (Like Goldline only prettier), so congrats on yer self-restraint:-)
cavemonkey

Ice climber
ak
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2018 - 07:00pm PT
Thanks MS
Been using it for awhile, but wanted to make sure I wasn’t being negligent
Got 2 from an industrial job, so they were cheap and easy to use,
Light as a mini-t I guess
Fyi... hung it on a boat rope in my garage for picture taking sake for all u haters out there
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