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mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 20, 2018 - 09:45am PT
Show of hands, who's got trail dirt in their blood? A while back....before fish left the water, I used to run cross country and do an occasional road race. Seemed like after awhile of pounding the pavement, I hit a wall with my passion for running. I left running alone for quite some time. Climbing and cycling took a front seat for many years. I remember meeting up with an old friend who ran road races with me. He had mentioned he made the cross over to trail running and he found a renewed excitement for running. Slaved to my old mind set, I was a bit prejudice to his new found "love". He invited me to run with him at a local trail in San Diego. After that day and the days to follow, I had found my old friend! That friend was the person inside me. The one that talked, laughed, cried, bitched, screamed with child-like excitement and felt alive. As climbers, we find ourselves so amazed with the experience. It allows us to unbury things, dig a little deeper and discover what really resides beyond the surface. Trail running has added even more to my outdoor expereince. So many things can be said but I'd like to hear from those that share in the same passion for breathing in trail dirt, chewing on the occasional gnat, suffering through the big steep grades, screaming down killer descents etc.

A few shots of me and my friend Brian (137), after pacing him during the Kodiak 100 in Big Bear this weekend. He placed 20th out of 106, running 102 miles in 32 hour, 5 min. Total elevation gain: 21,000ft. A few additional shots of friends, Jen and Gerry, getting after it.

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Credit: mooch

Credit: mooch
Credit: mooch
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Aug 20, 2018 - 10:05am PT
saw a t-shirt on a fellow from the navajo rez last week:
"don't ask why i run, tell me why you walk"

three decades and four stone ago i ran,
now i can answer the question.

but those were great days
Don Paul

Social climber
Washington DC
Aug 20, 2018 - 10:13am PT
Feels so free to just run through the forest but too much running always injures me. It's very addictive and hard to do in moderation.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Aug 20, 2018 - 10:15am PT
If you ever hear "What are you running from?!", that's me.
In the spirit of fairness, and the endless rash of shite that I drop on the BASE bros for miscegenation, I'm going to save this little piece of real estate for some tongue in cheeckery.

My first complaint is that Dirt Jogging turns beautiful young wild women into something resembling you guys😂😂😂. (Superheroines notwithstanding)



Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Aug 20, 2018 - 10:35am PT
Hey Mooch, fun topic; at least the trail running part...but Ultra? that is in another universe way beyond me.
You being a cyclist might understand how I finally could run and it wasn't till I was forty before I could. Why? Offroad FixtWheel cycling is basically it and built strength into my knees that allowed me to actually run beyond 20 minutes or a couple miles miles before my knees and hips would scream in skeletal pain. I OR-Fix't for a couple years before trying to do big runs in the hills. My steed is a Hunter fix't X-bike. It taught me how to negotiate regardless of timing, balance, power availability and under stress. I had never learned so much about cycling in my 25+ years prior to getting fix't. I wasn't expecting to be able to run as a result but after a couple years of it I just felt different in my lower body and started running and just kept improving, from 20 minutes to 3+ hours. As long as I am going up or down I am good. I still can't run the flats though and I could care less. I believe the resistance workout of fix't riding helped balance out my body and I went from an imbalanced cyclist(probably the most imbalanced of all athletes) to one that can do more and experience more in life...with stronger knees!!! love it!! You ever try it?
John M

climber
Aug 20, 2018 - 10:51am PT
Didn't do ultras, but plenty of marathon length runs in the mountains while living in Yosemite. At one point I was running 5-10 miles a day on mountain trails. Its a wonderful feeling to be deep in the mountains with nothing on your back but a light day pack with a few essentials. Food, water, headlamp and some rain protection.

My longest run was in the neighborhood of 40 miles. I first did it as a hike, and then as a run. Tenaya to top of clouds rest, to top of half dome, swim in little yosemite valley, then across panorama cliffs to glacier point, then back down to illiouette and up to the top of Buena Vista peak, then down for a swim across buena vista lake and run to top of Chilnualna falls for a swim, and then to Wawona. Marvelous day.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Aug 20, 2018 - 10:56am PT
I used to run trail ultras or at least I ran a few back in the day. Did the Santa Barbara Nine Trails twice and the Bishop Mule Run 50k a few times. A back injury put a stop to it, can't take the pounding anymore. I do miss it, it was the only type of running I could handle, running on roads and streets is deadly boring.
Sewellymon

climber
.....in a single wide......
Aug 20, 2018 - 11:34am PT
Mooch- I got a bunch of friends who were up at (or running) the Kodiak this weekend. Good course.

Batrock- I remember Mule Run 50K. Only time I ever raced in 100F+ temps. For like the last 2 hours of the freakin' race. I am still friends with the race director Bill Kissell...

I mt biked a few laps down the Mt Hillyer/ Horse Flats trail 2 weeks ago and took pics of runner during the Angeles Crest 100....
Credit: Sewellymon
Credit: Sewellymon
Credit: Sewellymon
Credit: Sewellymon
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Aug 20, 2018 - 11:45am PT
Jeff, The Mule Run was a killer in that heat. I remember toward the finish at the Mill Pond a long sandy hill climb, I saw people in white robes floating above the ground waiving me up the hill and remember thinking that it was perfectly normal to see floating people in the desert. Dehydration is a bitch.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 20, 2018 - 03:16pm PT
Cool.
I ran a little in high school, but then got hurt climbing and I can't even run across the street now.
My wife and kids are runners, though.
And I'm an armchair fan of Jim Walmsley.
Sewellymon

climber
.....in a single wide......
Aug 20, 2018 - 03:52pm PT
Clint- +1 re Jim Walmsley. He the top dog of the Coconino Cowboys. One of the cowboys is Tim Freriks, son of BITD So Cali climber Jon Freriks whom many of us climbed with for years. Super fun to follow his son's successes.

https://trailrunnermag.com/people/the-cowboys-vs-everybody-even-themselves.html
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Riverkern Annex)
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2018 - 04:25pm PT
Good stuff, folks! Love to hear about experiences from each of you. Something about trail running that completes the whole circle of outdoor adventure. Just you, a pair of your favorite shoes (in some cases, none at all) and the elements before you. This guy added fuel to the spark a year aftere I started to venture beyond local trails in San Diego....

thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Aug 20, 2018 - 04:50pm PT
For a while, two years ago, I was working down until I was within 5 minutes of the FKT for the c2c on a local granite dome, maybe 7 mi RT and 2k one-way. My favored route ditched the main trail at the meadow below the dome and skitter-scatter bolted up the slabby NW buttress of the mother, low Cl 5, and then down some named rock route on the descent. Then some freak took another 10 minutes off the FKT and I kinda stopped going to church there.


Anyway, nice to hear some fellow addicts admit that they too like to get high AF on the endogenous opiates.
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
Aug 20, 2018 - 04:53pm PT
Lavaredo ultra Trail 120 this June, 2018
Lavaredo ultra Trail 120 this June, 2018
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Lavaredo
Lavaredo
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thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Aug 20, 2018 - 04:57pm PT
I mean that ridgeline is somewhat compelling, Atch, but....


Today was a good day.  ~7 mi, 2,000 vert, five or so pitches including...
Today was a good day. ~7 mi, 2,000 vert, five or so pitches including the downclimbs. New routefinding led to a hundred foot hand traverse. Most exciting! Just over two hours AND crushing real world obligations!
Credit: thebravecowboy

about 3 pitches into it.  the crack pitch opener is the money pitch.
about 3 pitches into it. the crack pitch opener is the money pitch.
Credit: thebravecowboy
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xCon

Social climber
909
Aug 20, 2018 - 09:45pm PT
running is so unnatural...
BruceHildenbrand

Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
Aug 20, 2018 - 11:10pm PT
I had a long talk with Scott Jurek last year about the stuff he does which is the ultra runs like the Appalachian Trail. The speed record for this effort seems to be declining almost daily. Our chat was about the definition of supported versus non-supported runs. It appears that just about anything goes with a "supported" run so the purists are leaning toward making the records for "non-supported" runs more meaningful. Very interesting.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Aug 21, 2018 - 04:41am PT
What's neat about trail running is that, at least for me, it's like speed climbing. A trail that took me three days to backpack a long time ago I can jog (I don't 'run') in 10-12 hours. And as mentioned earlier in the thread, it's great to go out with a camelback, a couple of energy bars, some TP (just in case), a couple of bandaids and some candy where I once carried way too much junk and suffered way too much.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 21, 2018 - 05:44am PT
When the fat wife is standing close at the check out, where ever, I waddle up an say some near gay thing, about calf's, back muscles or python like arms,
I only do so, if the guys fingers look like toes. . .

The question always ends " Did you ever Rock Climb. . .

I can tell from over all fitness,but the hands have to look hard.

My scores have been interesting leading to a few days of climbing & one regular climbing partner, till the snow flew. The others found the poisonous plants & bugs, dirt & sweat and such, not near as enjoyable as I tried to sell...

there is a new prospect. He & his wife were so buff they didn't cast shadows in line at the farm stand! so he has a Scottish sir name.
It was a tried & true comment that I threw out, "do you frame house, what do you do to keep that tone"?\

The answer came from a low place reserved for "Get off My Lawn"

"Ultra's TRY Athlons" stretching out the word. "Like Iron Mans" said in that way to take me out,


(me,I pounce )I knew it, have you ever.....

every once in a while I bite off more than I can chew!

wish me luck. The guy did say he was good, liked heights.

Ignow I wish you folks luck with ULTR?A,, Yeahg good luck with that

Luv'Ya
(soon, I'm gonna look like a Bowling Ball) Gnome
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Aug 21, 2018 - 08:31am PT
I've done two 50 milers. My best result was below. Since then 2 meniscus surgeries and a boating accident has left me in clearly non-ultra shape. I've started to MTB pretty hard in hopes of rehabbing back into Ultra shape. My ultimate goal, along with the rest of the ultra world, is Western States.

Credit: Roughster

Obviously I am not your typical ultramarathoner. I felt like a freaking giant at the start, lol.
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Coming down the backside of Steam Trains closing in on the turn around point.
Credit: Roughster

My daughter and son helping me finish the last bit.
Credit: Roughster

Ultas are awesome :)
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