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Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 12, 2018 - 10:23am PT
So, I had a medical issue a month ago. Iíve been a partier, alcohol user, and drug dabbler for my whole adult life and itís been catching up with me. I had an episode of pancreatitis (my third in four years), and felt pain that surpassed any dislocations or broken bones that Iíve ever incurred. Drinking has ceased, and Iíve also dialed in my diet to where I feel really good when I wake up naturally at 5am. This is good. The other good is how in one month Iíve dropped 15 pounds and keep on framing homes. Itís physically demanding work, and my body keeps up with it. Has anyone else been in my place? Any advice? My diet now is no breakfast, a pita pocket with turkey, hummus, cheddar, and bell pepper for lunch. My dinner is straight animal protein, chicken or cow, and desert is low-fat yogurt with fruit. Thatís all I eat. No coffee, just water. Juice with desert sometimes, but thatís a lot of sugar and my pancreas hates sugar. I feel great and am looking for input to keeping this greatness going. Any feedback is appreciated.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 12, 2018 - 10:43am PT
No breakfast? My granny wouldnít approve of that!

Best wishes, Brandon.
monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 12, 2018 - 10:51am PT
Dump the animal products and processed foods. Didn't you marry/date a vegan?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 12, 2018 - 10:58am PT
A high protein diet with natural sugars and low carbs seems to be working for me. My wife is and has been a vegetarian for twenty years. She hates the smell of flesh cooking, but accepts it as good trade off, as I donít eat pigs (super smart, therefore shouldnít be eaten apparently). Cows and chickens are still ok, and theyíre easy protein. Also, lots of yogurt and eggs.
okay, whatever

climber
Aug 12, 2018 - 11:00am PT
Well, I'm 64, and am 6'0" and 165#, which seems to be a good setpoint. I just eat a lot of fresh stuff... broccoli, carrots, spinach, all kinds of fruit, etc. And I mostly rely on peanuts and dairy for protein, though I do eat fish and turkey once or twice a week, and even beef and pork if that's what's being served when I'm a guest at someone's house, say. I think that if your day-to-day nutrient input includes the must-haves, and your caloric input matches your caloric output, more or less, you're doing fine. And the occasional "sin" is no big deal to me, as long as it's not habitual... ice cream or bacon or fast food or whatever. Staying physically active on a more or less daily basis seems to make me want the right stuff, more than the wrong stuff, in any case. But that's just my experience, and I do realize that other people's experience can be quite different, for many reasons....
monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 12, 2018 - 11:06am PT
If you are just looking for a little tweek to avoid another pancreatic issue, it's not going to happen.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 12, 2018 - 11:10am PT
How so? Everything Iíve been told leads me to believe that a properly balanced diet will correct pancreatic issues.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Aug 12, 2018 - 11:47am PT
Your pancreas secretes juice every time you eat. Overwork it and it inflames. The itis in pancreatitis. Eating twice a day with water only between meals will give it a huge break and itís very hard to get cavities that way too. Especially by eating food and no food products. Nothing with a nutrition label.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
Aug 12, 2018 - 12:04pm PT
Brandon,
What you are doing is right. No breakfast (I stave mine off with coffee) and the protein at dinner is right. Glad you got it going.

Arne
perswig

climber
Aug 12, 2018 - 02:44pm PT
Curious as to why folks are being told the 'no breakfast' thing, from a physiology point of view.
Is it the timing (first meal), or is it that foods many of us consume at breakfast tend to be potential pancreatic (and IBD) triggers?

TIA.
Dale
Robb

Social climber
Cat Box
Aug 12, 2018 - 03:38pm PT
3 episodes in 4 years....ETOH
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Aug 12, 2018 - 03:59pm PT
Credit: thebravecowboy


do you drink monster?
ionlyski

Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
Aug 12, 2018 - 11:21pm PT
Dale,

For me its just that I try not to eat till I'm ready to burn it. If I'm moving into the day slowly I like to feel good and light before I eat. The only strategy I have is to never eat and then rest. Don't know if that is "correct" but I feel it works for me.

Arne
perswig

climber
Aug 13, 2018 - 03:08am PT
Ah, thank you Arne.
I thought someone was ascribing some sort of diurnal rhythm to pancreatic function or GI absorption (plausible but something I had not heard before), but the timing of intake and individual metabolism needs makes good sense. Would recruit other on-demand factors and might lessen the direct pancreatic wind-up.

Dale
couchmaster

climber
Aug 13, 2018 - 07:19am PT
Congrats on breaking the alcohol habit. Itís some nasty stuff. I did construction for a while and about the time it was ending I was a bonafide alcoholic. Now I drink, but stay on top of it so itís under control. Best of luck going forward Brandon.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Aug 13, 2018 - 09:08am PT
Well done. Avoid excessive processed sugars (e.g. alcohol, white breads, un-needed carbs) and count your calories. Good proteins are good. Don't shy away from good fats. Eat unprocessed foods when possible. Eat fresh veggies and fruits. Stay hydrated. Stay the course even when screwing up your diet for a weekend.
perswig

climber
Aug 13, 2018 - 10:05am PT
Stay hydrated.

Gotta agree. A lot of inflammatory and even some degenerative diseases (intervertebral discs) seem to revolve at least in part on circulation and microtrauma from chronic/repeat vascular compromise. I suspect few of us really hydrate well.

Dale
Jim Clipper

climber
Aug 13, 2018 - 10:15am PT
No real advice:

Congrats on making yourself healthier!
You are losing weight, you may get to a point where you want to gain muscle, maintain your weight, etc.
Why does weight yo yo so often for people on diets?
Your goals, and diet may change as you get older (seems like we all do).
I can get bored following a regimen. Instead of sticking to one diet, what about serial diets with a smooth transition between them?
Hunger is a great flavor additive.
Glycogen window & metabolism? Eat some before or while exercising?
You seem to have already found some of your own answers, congrats!

Finally, I believe that pancreatitis can be serious. Episodes may result in the development of other chronic conditions. If you've been given good, science based, medical advice, do your best to follow it.
GuapoVino

climber
Aug 13, 2018 - 11:04am PT
I follow a guy named Dr Berg on youtube. He pushes the keto diet, which is what I do when I'm not going off the rails and cheating. Helathy fats, moderate quality protein, stay away from sugars and processed carbs. I eat a lot of salads, vegetables, fruit sparingly, moderate protein consumption.

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 13, 2018 - 02:27pm PT
Lots of affirmations of what Iím currently doing, thanks. Validation helps. Yes, Iím cutting out as many carbs as possible (most), eating a ton of fruits and veggies (when I went in to the ER my potassium levels were way low), Iíve always tried to drink a gallon of water each day, no alcohol (huge), lots of protein, and only the good sugars or fats.

I had to look up ETOH, and thatís not it. Iíd been alcohol free for a month before this current episode.

Thanks all for the knowledge and encouragement, Iím lighter than Iíve been in years and feeling pretty good! Pretty much ready to tie in and crush any 5.8 I find, lol.
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