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Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 22, 2018 - 10:21am PT
apparently Dean's thread got hijacked and exceeded the "community standards" policy of STForum

anyway, here's the link
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deanfidelman/stone-nudes-2019-20th-anniversary-calendar-final-e

for those who are interested in supporting Dean's art

those who aren't can avoid clicking
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jul 22, 2018 - 10:26am PT
This proves Pud's assertion that it was porn...
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Jul 22, 2018 - 10:32am PT
Re Pud -

“The Lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jul 22, 2018 - 10:51am PT
It's all your fault Hartouni!
You ... and that lewd, crude periodical once known as Life Magazine, for purveying that unacceptable image of Twinka and Cunningham by Judy Dater.

Some weenie probably complained.
That's all it takes to get a thread dusted around here, you know.

It's beyond me why the moderators don't simply delete the specific offending image or prose, followed by a targeted slap to the hand of the offender.
This really chaps my ass, the habit of vaporizing entire conversations, many of which are quite rich.

Why, it's right up there with, with ... that feeling of getting stickers in socks from walking around through tall, dry weeds.
At least I saved the damn thing to PDF up to post 131, for, uh, future reference and stuff.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jul 22, 2018 - 10:55am PT
So the owners of this website delete every reference ever to "Stone Nude" and you go ahead and post one right back? That's awesome.

Nobody hi-jacked sh!t, Ed, Dean posted more nudes to those threads than all others combined - think that might have had something to do with it?

Maybe Chris doesn't want a bunch of nude girl photos coming up on searches - thus banning his site from many parental and workplace filters, thus significantly effecting his revenue. Dean (and you) are self absorbed and clueless on this one.

Have some class and delete this thread, too, IMO, before someone does it for you.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2018 - 11:37am PT
a search phrase of "Stone Nude" turns up 102 links on the STForum,
so it was not erased from the site

If the powers-that-be don't want this link, they'll nuke it too.

I did feel guilty posting the Twinka/Cunningham/Dater collaboration pic, but once again, you can see the Judy Dater exhibit at the de Young

https://deyoung.famsf.org/exhibitions/judy-dater-only-human

I am, after all, only human

And Dean is a climber, and posts climbing content. The opportunity to support him in his pursuits, especially as he has supported the community by providing his art in fundraisers should be acknowledged.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jul 22, 2018 - 12:12pm PT
It was a public discussion basically about voyeurism and masturbation, among a generally 45+ crowd ogling over naked girls half their age. Nothing creepy and gross about that. I can't imagine why the thread got deleted.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jul 22, 2018 - 12:13pm PT
Anti Christ...Tipper Gore would like some words with you...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2018 - 12:39pm PT
"Nobody hi-jacked sh!t, Ed, ..."

I think the OP of that thread was a simple invitation to support his 2018 calendar, and pointing out that it would be his last.

The discussion spiraled into the realm of morality, politics, accusations of illegality. I contributed by posting a sure-to-be controversial image, published in 1974, which, much to my amazement, still engenders heated controversy. I posted it after having just gone to an exhibit of Dater's work at a venerable San Francisco institution, the de Young Museum. In spite of some people's opinion, that image is considered to be art.

A very reasonable case can be made that children might view images that our society deems they are unprepared to see. But the initial OP of that thread had no such images.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jul 22, 2018 - 01:08pm PT
It was a public discussion basically about voyeurism and masturbation, among a generally 45+ crowd ogling over naked girls half their age. Nothing creepy and gross about that. I can't imagine why the thread got deleted.


Ummm. I think we weren’t reading the same thread.

I admit I’m over 45 and I did add some comments but as for the other identifiers you listed....nope not I, nor much of what else I read on that thread.

Anyways, it’s a dead horse issue to me now.

Carry on

Susan
Trump

climber
Jul 22, 2018 - 01:14pm PT
If you live in a teapot, might as well make a tempest. Or if you live in a slightly larger teapot, make a tempest about those slightly smaller minded people making a tempest about their slightly smaller teapot.

I do so love the self-righteous, as if we have a choice. Best not to notice about oneself, but fear not!, we get lots of practice not noticing.

Nah, your self-righteousness doesn’t make you look fat - it only makes other people look fat. To you.

Cool photos Ed, TFPU.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jul 22, 2018 - 01:31pm PT
The discussion spiraled into the realm of morality, politics, accusations of illegality.
Yes, Ed - that's totally why all the naked girl fundraising threads Dean has ever started were deleted.

It certainly had nothing to do with the fuk'n obvious - that these discussions were interspersed with pictures of naked girls generally about 1/2 the age of the discussion participants - pictures generally posted by the OP, and solely to incite and for personal monetary gain - all while putting at risk CM's means of making a living. So totally classless.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
and solely to incite and for personal monetary gain

incite? perhaps you could look at your own behavior, you have to respond because you believe you are right and I am wrong, you can't not respond, you have no control over yourself.

personal monetary gain? I don't think you can accuse Dean of that, and certainly no more than the ads that pop up on the site that are the alleged source of Chris Macs "livelihood," and Dean is about climbing.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jul 22, 2018 - 01:50pm PT
you can't not respond, you have no control over yourself
Ed, we each have 4 posts to this thread.

The reality you fail to acknowledge is the owner of this site found the threads unacceptable. You defending them and starting a new one, IMO, makes you an a$$.
uncle sammy

Ice climber
Buenos Aires
Jul 22, 2018 - 02:01pm PT
I know why. It's even daffier than you think.
WBraun

climber
Jul 22, 2018 - 02:14pm PT
If anyone really believed those women that posed in the calendar thought they were doing PORN then they are totally insane ......

Saying that calendar is porn is slandering and smearing all those women!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2018 - 02:28pm PT
Provoking JLP will just escalate the back-and-forth on this thread, which will likely end it being nuked by the site proprietors for getting personal.

My main purpose in the OP was just to provide the link to those who'd like to support Dean's efforts to produce the 2018 calendar.

We know, by now, JLP's position on the topic. Let it rest.
Jim Clipper

climber
Jul 22, 2018 - 02:51pm PT
this may be just a bunch of keyboard jockey onanism, unless, maybe - grab your G-string banana hammock, laceless superslippers, and have your ticket for Mallorca stamped. Fast, light. (kudos to dean)
Jim Clipper

climber
Jul 22, 2018 - 03:36pm PT
come on... why do the euros get such a bad rap?! allez ms. ekat, allez
Jim Clipper

climber
Jul 22, 2018 - 04:17pm PT
peace be upon you ms. ekat, or maybe aloha. Euros just have different standards, I guess? Cultures clash, at worst.

Hope you make it at the cruz. If I remember, you have some adventurous friends here.

It is a pretty special place. Shaded rocks in the tall trees. Aunties and Uncles still out in the line up. Good mixed plate not far away. Tita revolution!!! Well, we'll see. It's warm in the summer, you may not even need a suit...


p.s. meant only in the best, non creepy internet typer kind of way.
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