new new C4s

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
This thread has been locked
Messages 1 - 14 of total 14 in this topic
Shannanigans

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 19, 2018 - 09:14am PT
Anyone else see the social media stuff coming from Black Diamond where they have the new C4s with “trigger keepers”? In BD’s Instagram story today they show one and it locks once fully cammed, and then unlocks when you push a button with your thumb. Someone explain why this is a good idea?!?
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 19, 2018 - 09:18am PT
Probably because their new marketing agency said it'd be awesome.

The lighter and lighter thing bothers me more....
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
Jun 19, 2018 - 09:28am PT
I just watched it. I can think of both scenarios where this would be cool, and also when it would be horrible...overall not into it.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jun 19, 2018 - 09:46am PT
link?
kalockwood

climber
Salt Lake City
Jun 19, 2018 - 09:47am PT
It's only on the #5 and #6 to keep the lobes retracted when you're climbing. It's a nice feature to give the cam a lower profile on your harness.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jun 19, 2018 - 10:03am PT
Link? i am not finding it. Wonder if the trigger lock was plagiarized from the Merlin
Trashman

Trad climber
SLC
Jun 19, 2018 - 10:14am PT
Nope, totally different style of trigger lock. Looks a little finicky but like it should work.

The bigger issue for me is the implementation of the “ultralight” lobes on all units. They don’t look as resistant to lateral loads(see Tom and Erick’s debates in the VG thread). Glad I’ve got enough units to get me to the next millennium.

Edit: trigger lock pic here
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114462770/new-bd-camalot?page=4
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 19, 2018 - 10:51am PT
The more material that gets removed from those cam lobes... esp on the larger designs... yuck...

Just think of the point loading if you've got a pebbly crack or some other protrusion that concentrates the load.

But then again I'm off the chart to the right for 'ideal climber weight'....

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jun 19, 2018 - 12:11pm PT
troll post?

no BD spam received yet.


mikeyschaefer

climber
Sport-o-land
Jun 19, 2018 - 12:31pm PT
I’ve used the new c4’s just a little bit. The lobe lock on the 5 and 6 is a simple solution that appeared to work really well. Overall the new c4s seemed like a solid upgrade.
JakeW

Big Wall climber
CA
Jun 19, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
Dang, I always liked the hippy mountain man aspect of carrying a couple twigs to shove in the big cams when not in use.
grover

climber
Castlegar BC
Jun 19, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
Jon Beck is onto something.

Merlin cams do have a trigger lock, they work well. Beats jamming a stick through the lobes......

Didn't Jardines original friends have a notch on the stem for the trigger bar to rest in?
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
Jun 19, 2018 - 05:18pm PT
troll post?

https://www.instagram.com/blackdiamond/?hl=en

Doesn't seem like it. Click on the BD logo to see their "story". You have to be logged into Instagram to do this.

If it's only on the big cams I think it does make some sense. I want to try it out. I can however envision the scenario where you are on some hard wide f*#ker and you desperately place a cam and it sticks down, but again can't really say this without trying.
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jun 19, 2018 - 11:54pm PT
Didn't Jardines original friends have a notch on the stem for the trigger bar to rest in?
Messages 1 - 14 of total 14 in this topic
Return to Forum List
 
Our Guidebooks
spacerCheck 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks

guidebook icon
Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Route Beta