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Shannanigans
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 19, 2018 - 09:14am PT
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Anyone else see the social media stuff coming from Black Diamond where they have the new C4s with “trigger keepers”? In BD’s Instagram story today they show one and it locks once fully cammed, and then unlocks when you push a button with your thumb. Someone explain why this is a good idea?!?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 19, 2018 - 09:18am PT
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Probably because their new marketing agency said it'd be awesome.
The lighter and lighter thing bothers me more....
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Jun 19, 2018 - 09:28am PT
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I just watched it. I can think of both scenarios where this would be cool, and also when it would be horrible...overall not into it.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jun 19, 2018 - 09:46am PT
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link?
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kalockwood
climber
Salt Lake City
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Jun 19, 2018 - 09:47am PT
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It's only on the #5 and #6 to keep the lobes retracted when you're climbing. It's a nice feature to give the cam a lower profile on your harness.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 19, 2018 - 10:03am PT
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Link? i am not finding it. Wonder if the trigger lock was plagiarized from the Merlin
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Jun 19, 2018 - 10:14am PT
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Nope, totally different style of trigger lock. Looks a little finicky but like it should work.
The bigger issue for me is the implementation of the “ultralight” lobes on all units. They don’t look as resistant to lateral loads(see Tom and Erick’s debates in the VG thread). Glad I’ve got enough units to get me to the next millennium.
Edit: trigger lock pic here
https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/114462770/new-bd-camalot?page=4
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 19, 2018 - 10:51am PT
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The more material that gets removed from those cam lobes... esp on the larger designs... yuck...
Just think of the point loading if you've got a pebbly crack or some other protrusion that concentrates the load.
But then again I'm off the chart to the right for 'ideal climber weight'....
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jun 19, 2018 - 12:11pm PT
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troll post?
no BD spam received yet.
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mikeyschaefer
climber
Sport-o-land
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Jun 19, 2018 - 12:31pm PT
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I’ve used the new c4’s just a little bit. The lobe lock on the 5 and 6 is a simple solution that appeared to work really well. Overall the new c4s seemed like a solid upgrade.
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JakeW
Big Wall climber
CA
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Jun 19, 2018 - 12:36pm PT
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Dang, I always liked the hippy mountain man aspect of carrying a couple twigs to shove in the big cams when not in use.
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grover
climber
Castlegar BC
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Jun 19, 2018 - 04:11pm PT
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Jon Beck is onto something.
Merlin cams do have a trigger lock, they work well. Beats jamming a stick through the lobes......
Didn't Jardines original friends have a notch on the stem for the trigger bar to rest in?
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Jun 19, 2018 - 05:18pm PT
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troll post?
https://www.instagram.com/blackdiamond/?hl=en
Doesn't seem like it. Click on the BD logo to see their "story". You have to be logged into Instagram to do this.
If it's only on the big cams I think it does make some sense. I want to try it out. I can however envision the scenario where you are on some hard wide f*#ker and you desperately place a cam and it sticks down, but again can't really say this without trying.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Jun 19, 2018 - 11:54pm PT
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Didn't Jardines original friends have a notch on the stem for the trigger bar to rest in?
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