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another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 13, 2018 - 07:46am PT
There is, worldwide, it would seem, some millions of dollars in annual NET profits in the mountain guiding business. Presumably these profits go mainly to a few dozen individuals (who aren't guides themselves) but that's unimportant here.

So question is, at some point in the not-distant future, whether on-the-ground guides could be replaced safely and economically by robots ?? The sole aim of course would be to make guiding services more profitable.

This question also pertains to ski guides, rock and/or alpine. It could be a partial or complete replacement, depending on various circumstances, including the technology's effectiveness.

I'm sure development costs at the moment would be very high.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 13, 2018 - 08:40am PT
I don't think so.
Too much judgement involved to allow that replacement any time soon and the liability would be enormous on anything difficult. Some clients also want to learn from individual guides and have a relationship with the mountaineering world that would be absent with a machine.
Not to mention the difficulty in recreating the functional human body for this task even with Hugh Herr at the helm.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 13, 2018 - 08:43am PT
What about the sex?
Stewart Johnson

Mountain climber
lake forest
Jun 13, 2018 - 08:45am PT
Sex with robots,Jim?
How very kinky...
Swing a cat eh!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 13, 2018 - 08:46am PT
Much more limited scope of operations...LOL
See Joe's Garage Sy Borg$$$
another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2018 - 08:52am PT
Military combat robot technology will doubtless have applications. So DoD will indirectly pay initial development costs.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 13, 2018 - 09:08am PT
I'd love to find it, perhaps from an old ASCENT, or CLIMBING, circa mid-1970s, there was a piece of fiction about a guy competing free-solo with a climbing robot in Yosemite.
jbaker

Trad climber
Redwood City, CA
Jun 13, 2018 - 09:20am PT
"Why did you climb Mt. Everest?"

"Because my goal-oriented navigation was set there."
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jun 13, 2018 - 09:39am PT
You wouldn't have to tip...
Roots

Mountain climber
Redmond, Oregon
Jun 13, 2018 - 09:50am PT
IMHO more likely would be the adoption of robotic exoskeletons to enhance strength and endurance...(ex. oxygenless ascents of Everest, etc.)
AKDOG

Mountain climber
Anchorage, AK
Jun 13, 2018 - 10:15am PT

Would a robot be allowed to marry a trustafarian client and gain his/her freedom?
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 13, 2018 - 10:19am PT
Ski lifts were the first phase of Skynet, actually.

DMT
WBraun

climber
Jun 13, 2018 - 01:33pm PT
Only sterile conscious people need robots.

Because sterile conscious people are already robots .....
xCon

Social climber
909
Jun 13, 2018 - 01:42pm PT
AI is about to put lawyers accountants and doctors out on the curb...
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 13, 2018 - 01:57pm PT
another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2018 - 02:56pm PT
The combat robots now under development will sooner or later have various non-military applications.

Mt. guide management companies almost by definition are run by technocrats, or "sterile people" as described above, who would naturally make use of robots if available and economic.

Many or most people paying these companies won't know the difference. In many ways, there won't BE a difference, although the machine will be safer, cleaner and more efficient.

At some point a choice may be available: Hire a person at X dollars or machine at half price.

A bit like self-driving cars.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jun 13, 2018 - 08:40pm PT
not until someone makes a robot with an oversized ego
xCon

Social climber
909
Jun 13, 2018 - 08:57pm PT
how does the robots fuel compare to a mans food and water weight wise?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 13, 2018 - 10:41pm PT
Sonoya Mizuno, same woman that plays Kyoko in Ex Machina.

clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jun 14, 2018 - 06:32am PT
The Caldwell 6.0 Pro is a state of the art...
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