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T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 13, 2018 - 08:49am PT
Well the wife came home from work Friday evening coughing, congested, headache, sore throat and being the giving person she is infected me over the weekend. :(

My symptoms came on fast, felt fine yesterday morning and by noon I was screwed.

We don't think it's this years flu because we don't have body aches, fever or vomiting.

We both work in germ factory environments and had to call in too sick for work today.

Mo is now on day 5 and is feeling only slightly better after rest, pounding fluids, over the counter cold/pain meds and Vicks VapoRub to help ease breathing.

I know a few others here have been battling the cold/flu for extended periods, share yer tales of illness and any tips or remedies you find helpful to fight off this crap.

Get well soon all!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:09am PT
Hit me hard this year. Caught it on a bus ride to Vegas I think. Symptoms started about 30 hours later, at the bottom of the Grand Canyon loop hike. Then I had to drive home 500 miles.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:14am PT
It's been a super bad cold and flu year here.

To tell the difference, when you think you might actually die... that's the flu. You'll know right away. There are a lot of URI "flu-like" germs this year as well, but you can generally still function and the fever should be <101.

For simple bad colds, fluids, movement without exertion, sleep upright, saline nasal sprays. Ibuprofen can help.

For the Flu... Well, you drew the short straw. Tamiflu can't hurt to try if you catch it really early.

Avoid people inside as much as possible this time of year. Wash your hands, don't touch your face.




Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:18am PT
I take it you Luddite crankloons didnít get vaccinated?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:21am PT
Early findings from Canada indicate a 17 percent effectiveness against the viral strain, known as H3N2, thatís been the main culprit of flu in the U.S. this winter.

http://time.com/5138100/how-effective-is-the-2018-flu-shot/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:29am PT
That may be true but it still decreases the severity of your symptoms.
If I can decrease my likelihood of having an accident by 17% Iíll take it!
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 09:33am PT
^^^
I took the flu shot for a couple years about 10 yrs. ago and both times
I came down with the flu anyway. Your results may vary.

Tamiflu = $$$ even with good (by US standards) insurance.
Better than dying, but big pharma continues to screw us. :(
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:35am PT
I always get the flu vaccine and it's failed twice over the past ~15 or so years.

This year apparently was a total miss with their brew...

John M

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:39am PT
Welcome to the old folks forum. hahaha..

Got the flu the last week of Nov.. had it for 3 weeks.
Got the cold 2 days before Christmas.. had it for 5 weeks.

Compromised immune systems are fun fun fun!

This is what the doc prescribed for me last year.

1.Fluticasone propionate (Flonase ) : It can be prescribed or over the counter. It is a nasal spray for relief of nasal congestion and runny nose. Works a charm for me. Helps me breath so that I can sleep.

2. Robitussin DM : Used for cough and chest congestion.

First year for me that these things didn't devolve into pneumonia.


Edit: One reason the flu vaccine doesn't always work.

http://time.com/5138100/how-effective-is-the-2018-flu-shot/

1. How effective is the 2018 flu shot?

Early findings from Canada indicate a 17 percent effectiveness against the viral strain, known as H3N2, thatís been the main culprit of flu in the U.S. this winter.

2. Why are vaccines less protective against some strains of the flu?

One reason has to do with the most-common way flu shots are made. They typically contain killed (or ďinactivatedĒ) flu viruses that are grown in chicken eggs. Flu viruses that spread easily among humans tend not to grow as well in chicken eggs as bird flu strains do. This is especially the case for H3N2 viruses, which have been circulating continuously in humans since 1968 and are, therefore, very well adapted to humans as a host. When replicating inside eggs, H3N2 viruses are prone to undergoing adaptive changes that make them better-suited to the egg environment, but less likely to prompt the right response in humans. A mutation in the H3N2 strain meant most people receiving the egg-grown vaccine didnít have immunity against H3N2 viruses that circulated last year, leaving the vaccine with only about 30 percent effectiveness in the U.S. According to preliminary results from Australia, the flu shot was only about 10 percent effective against H3N2 there during the last winter in the southern hemisphere.

Though the vaccine might not keep your from getting the flu, it has been shown to help reduce severity. Meaning that if you had the vaccine and still got the flu and it was bad, then you might have croaked without it.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:39am PT
Tad, yer an educator! Donít be a Luddite! Itís more important than ever to be vaccinated now that yer of a certain age. 😐
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 09:45am PT
^^^
Yeah, guess I'm not 10 feet tall and bulletproof anymore. ;)
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:03am PT
Last Thursday at noon, while standing in line at the bank, I got that funny taste in my mouth then just felt a little weird. I took sick leave the rest of the day and Friday. I slept as much as possible and had oregano oil, a lot of fresh ginger tea and put astragalus in my sodium rich chick noodle bowl. I am a believer in sleep and oregano oil for colds nísuch. It was only in my head and on Thursday evening I had pretty crazy upper molar pain along with a stuffy head and headache. I think I might have had a sinus infection. On Saturday I went and sauna'd with eucalyptus oil in the AM and went back home and hit the sack. By Saturday evening I was basically pain free and a little stuffy and continued resting with the tea and oregano oil.
John M

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:33am PT
Hey Cragar... I forgot about the Oil of Oregano I used this year. I use it to treat a pilonidal cyst. The way that I know that it works is that the cyst use to get infected regularly. Twice it went septic. Since I started treating it with Oil or Oregano, I rarely have infections. I believe it also helped me keep this cold from devolving into a pneumonia.

I also used steam inhalation to treat the cold. I learned this year that cold viruses thrive in colder temps. This is why they settle into the sinuses. The temps in our sinuses hoover around 93 degrees. So inhaling steam or using a sauna helps to raise that temperature. Over a 100 degrees and viruses have a hard time surviving. Which is why our bodies raise their temperatures.
clode

Trad climber
portland, or
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:33am PT
Can't remember when I last had a rhinovirus (cold), probably a couple years or so.

I cannot remember ever having the flu.

Got a flu shot once, years ago, and it made me sick. Never had a shot since then.

Being a year-round bike commuter, I think exposure has bred resistance, along with eating healthy and getting good rest/sleep.

Now, where can I find some wood to knock on?
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 10:40am PT
Got the flu the last week of Nov.. had it for 3 weeks.
Got the cold 2 days before Christmas.. had it for 5 weeks.

Damn John, Glad yer still with us.

Thanks for the beta all.
I'm off to the store for party supplies; OJ, chicken noodle soup, nasal spray, cough syrup and a flu shot.

Credit: T Hocking
John M

climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:56am PT
Thanks Tad. Its been an interesting life. I liken my body to a Fiat. When it goes, it goes pretty good. But it sure breaks down a lot.

Risk

Mountain climber
Formerly TMJesse
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:58am PT
Two Wednesday's ago I woke up with a sore throat, a headache and a slight fever, so I stayed home, but is was pretty mild. Thursday, same, but with a really sore throat and a dry cough that hurt like hell. Friday, I went to a clinic and they gave me an Rx for Tamiflu. Advised that all household members take Tamiflu, also (for the kids, I did this thing called "Teledoc," which cost $15 to get the Rx all over the phone). With Tamiflu, my symptoms stopped getting worse and stabilized. By Tuesday, I was basically well. Out of it for a week. Fever maxed at 99.6. Someone else I know was out for two weeks and was depleted for another 10 days, just toughed it out.

Get in as early as possible and start Tamiflu. Uninsured cost (full price) is $129, and likely worth it. My BCBS copay was $10.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:35am PT
Google question: Do masks help to prevent catching the flu?

"Some studies have shown that using a surgical mask can help prevent influenza. ... Flu masks may help block airborne germs, and they may also prevent the transmission of germs from your hands to your mouth or nose. However, the best way to prevent influenza is to receive the flu vaccine."

Mask of the Black Death.  Thank you, EA Poe, for one of the best ever ...
Mask of the Black Death. Thank you, EA Poe, for one of the best ever short stories, Mask of the RED Death.
Credit: mouse from merced
Here is the related story for this image:

http://www.getholistichealth.com/37731/exclusive-the-spanish-influenza-epidemic-of-1918-was-caused-by-vaccinations/

Here is something on topic which I posted on The Flames just recently.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2607974&msg=3059579#msg3059579

I hope everyone feels better soon.

I've had two bouts of pneumonia since mid-December, but no flu.

I had a pneumonia vaccination 2-3 years ago, but still got it, but I'm a long-time sufferer from COPD and CHF. The pneumonia vaccine is only given once in five years.

I have had the flu vaccine this year.

The present flu is still going strong, the worst season in a long time.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:54am PT
At The Wifeís clinic/hospital if you didnít get the vaccine you had to wear a mask ALL DAY!
All patients presenting for anything who are perceived to have symptoms are immediately
given a mask. Even some Republicans can see the logic of that.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 13, 2018 - 12:08pm PT

Seeing Reilly write:
All patients presenting for anything who are perceived to have symptoms are immediately given a mask. Even some Republicans can see the logic of that

... I was unable not to search for Republican mask...


...and of course...


...this is what I found:




























































Republican mask
Republican mask
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