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Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 6, 2017 - 06:13am PT
http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2017-silence-breakers/

It's one hell of a read, and the imagery bolsters just how very real this issue is. We may have reached a critical mass with this issue, at least I hope so.

One of the quotes:

"I was afraid for my kids, I was afraid of the retaliation," she says. "I know what men can do when they're angry."

Yeah. That one rang for me. Because, you see, when I was four years old, and my father tried to molest me, I stood against him and told him I was going to "tell mom," and I ran. He became outraged and grabbed me. I managed to get out of his grip, but I was standing on the open staircase of the haymow in a barn. I had been there watching him work with a wood lathe - he could have taught me SO much, as he was a talented crafter, but instead, he taught me.... ANGER.

I fell from that second floor. Onto the concrete floor below. I remember waking up with him bent over me, white as a ghost, probably for fear I was dead.
(edit: I just realized that I only wrote the "it must have been that I ripped away and fell" version of that story. Wow. For my entire life I always wondered if if was that I ripped away and fell, or if he pushed me. Because I remember seeing his face - red, hateful - and then the next thing, waking up on the concrete. I din't know what happened, but I do know I was struggling to get away.)

People have called me a "victim," often in a derogatory way, when I am speaking out against abuse. The inference is that I am supposed to "get over it;" or for those pretending empathy, to "seek healing."


I am not a victim.
I am a warrior.


And so are the rising women, and men, who will no longer stay silent. We know our enemy well, and we are prepared for battle.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:09am PT
I know a woman who's faced an awful life to inocently be born into. She fought the destruction and beat it. Forgive the over simplification. Brave woman before our culture was ready for "Me too".
eKat

climber
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:20am PT
Considering POTUS's bullwhack about not accepting this honor, I'm wondering if the weight of their choice is lost on him.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:23am PT
Trump is holding out for a bigger award, something like.....Narcissist of the Century.
LAhiker

Social climber
Los Angeles
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:33am PT
Happiegrrrl said:
"I was afraid for my kids, I was afraid of the retaliation," she says. "I know what men can do when they're angry."

Yeah. That one rang for me. Because, you see, when I was four years old, and my father tried to molest me, I stood against him and told him I was going to "tell mom," and I ran. He became outraged and grabbed me. I managed to get out of his grip, but I was standing on the open staircase of the haymow in a barn. I had been there watching him work with a wood lathe - he could have taught me SO much, as he was a talented crafter, but instead, he taught me.... ANGER.

I fell from that second floor. Onto the concrete floor below. I remember waking up with him bent over me, white as a ghost, probably for fear I was dead.
(edit: I just realized that I only wrote the "it must have been that I ripped away and fell" version of that story. Wow. For my entire life I always wondered if if was that I ripped away and fell, or if he pushed me. Because I remember seeing his face - red, hateful - and then the next thing, waking up on the concrete. I din't know what happened, but I do know I was struggling to get away.)

People have called me a "victim," often in a derogatory way, when I am speaking out against abuse. The inference is that I am supposed to "get over it;" or for those pretending empathy, to "seek healing."


I am not a victim.
I am a warrior.


And so are the rising women, and men, who will no longer stay silent. We know our enemy well, and we are prepared for battle.

Thank you for your post. I'm sorry that happened to you but glad you survived the fall and that you continue to speak out against abuse.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:51am PT
Trump is holding out for a bigger award, something like.....Narcissist of the Century.

Well, he's won fuktard of the year by a landslide.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:59am PT
Thanks for posting happie. sorry for what happened to you, good that you are able to channel your emotions to something better. Keep up the fight. Great cover too, and yes, it involves the Orange Sh;t Gibbon
zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 6, 2017 - 08:05am PT
Maybe John & Yoko & Plastic Ono Band are no longer right?

2017 - 1972 = a long time

Woman is the nigger of the world
Yes she is, think about it
Woman is the nigger of the world
Think about it, do something about it
We make her paint her face and dance
If she won't be aslave, we say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say she's trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us
Woman is the nigger of the world, yes she is
If you don't believe me take a look to the one you're with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Ah yeah, better scream about it
We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that she's too unworldly to be our friend
Woman is the nigger of the world, yes she is
If you don't believe me take a look to the one you're with
Oh woman is the slave to the slaves
Yeah, alright
We insult her everyday on TV
And wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she's young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart we put her down for being so dumb
Woman is the nigger of the world, yes she is
If you don't believe me take a look to the one you're with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Yes she is, if you believe me, you better scream about it
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
WBraun

climber
Dec 6, 2017 - 08:06am PT
Damnnnn, I was hoping it would be "The Donald" as he's made America great again and drained the swamp..... :-)
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 6, 2017 - 08:41am PT
Now we have the creatures in the muck at the swamp's bottom in charge

"Making America grate again!"
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 6, 2017 - 08:49am PT
Nice kick to tRump's tiny 'nads by Time.

Footie

Trad climber
Sonoma, CA
Dec 6, 2017 - 08:57am PT
Sometimes I feel so proud (and reasured) to be a member of this tribe . This is one of those times. Happiegrrl2, thanks for sharing this story. I can't comprehend how...and you fell onto a concrete floor at such a young age then became a climber? You are a BRAVE woman!
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Dec 6, 2017 - 09:18am PT
It's my understanding Happiegirl was quoting the article.....
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 6, 2017 - 09:37am PT
no dude, her quotation had ended. not from the article.


the magazine cover put a smile on my face too, Terry. so important for us all to talk about this sh#t.

leave it to an overgolfing fat bore of a president to ignore and try to stifle engaging conversation to be had in such vital open dialogue about sexual misbehavior and poisonous men.

as if women weren't wonderful enough to be with, on their own terms. and that explains a lot about the transgressors, their inability to find partners interested, caring, willing and giving enough to satisfy and mitigate testosterone-tainted males. this is only just a first step, but this issue of dude-ness really sits at the root of most of our other pressing issues as a "civilized" sentient species.



Hell yeah you are a survivor Terry! Someone else pointed your life path toward END and you just took the f*#k over reset the control to KICKASS. TFPU!
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Dec 6, 2017 - 10:09am PT
You are a WARRIOR!
locker

climber
Dec 6, 2017 - 12:11pm PT


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HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 6, 2017 - 01:02pm PT
Happie......well said and thank you for being brave enough to speak out. Your experience is horrifying to read and is completely believable.

I've been married twice. Each of my wives has been raped, both as children. One by a family member. I've been close enough to several other women to know they had been raped. Usually by a family member.

I expect in my professional career I've worked with many men who were child/women molesters. They hid it well. All except one who was well known to the women where I worked (not known to the men, or was he? No one spoke up). He deservedly died young.

But this was the 70's and early 80's when male sexual and workplace dominance was accepted as inevitable. It was almost a joke that a woman could sleep her way up the management chain. Especially in the nascent Silicon Valley where many secretaries became wealthy when their older husband execs died. They clearly understood the quid pro quo.

In Utah among the Mormons male dominance is a man's right and a woman's obligation. When I was 12 (in Utah) a friend bragged he had raped his younger cousin. It didn't even occur to me to tell an adult.

This unacceptable male behavior is not inevitable nor universal, it has become a social norm. In my late teens, drunk after a street party (in Salt Lake) I nearly raped a young woman I had picked up. But she cried out before it was too late, I heard her and stopped immediately, terribly embarrassed. I shall never forget that and I thank both my parents for instilling in me a respect for women of all ages.

It's not so hard to accept women as equals. There never has been an excuse not to. It's a good thing for society that this terrible sexual power differential has been exposed. Now let's end it.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 02:36pm PT
It's my understanding Happiegirl was quoting the article.....


Well, I guess I could take that as an indication that, at least with a superfluous glance, I'm able to write at a level that could be assumed Times-level journo....but it would have been nicer if you had read the article and perhaps made a comment related to that.

Thank you to those who have wished me well. As you all likely know - my story is really just one in a million. We need to tell those stories, and disengage ourselves from the shame we have been told was ours to carry.
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Dec 6, 2017 - 02:54pm PT
At least it wasn't Colin K. I heard he was a finalist. I actually like their choice here.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 6, 2017 - 03:01pm PT
Colin would have been great as well as would BLM.
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