NPS Fee Increase to $70?

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limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 24, 2017 - 04:05pm PT
http://www.nps.gov/orgs/1207/10-24-2017-fee-changes-proposal.htm

Still open to public comment if you're so inclined.

Selfishly: Doesn't bother me because I can afford it and I always get the pass anyway. Maybe less people to deal with.

Objectively: Might be prohibitive to some people and I think public lands should be there for anyone who wants some time in the outdoors.

Personally: I've worked for and with the park on several occasions and dot no believe they are efficient with their money so I don't think a fee increase should be an option until they use what they have wisely.

Hmmm..... thoughts?
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Oct 24, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
They're actually officially calling it an entrance fee now? I thought that for some reason they had to call it a "use fee", I figured because the governing statute prohibited entrance fees?

I can afford it, sucks for those who can't.

TE
c wilmot

climber
Oct 24, 2017 - 04:41pm PT
The nps wastes so much money on frivolous employees. Very little of their funding actually supports maintenance upkeep.

Does the nps really need interpretation rangers?

How much money has yos spent trying to remove tasty blackberries with cancer causing chemicals?

JLP

Social climber
The internet
Oct 24, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
Nice, but I would have proposed at least $200. $70 is like the gas you have to burn to get from SFO to YOS, anyone can afford that.

Overcrowding is completely destroying these places. Seems like a reasonable, effective and correct way to address the problem.
c wilmot

climber
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
What idiot wouldn't pay the extra five and get the annual pass???...

Foreign tourists...
dh

climber
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:28pm PT
Man, the valley was 5 bucks back in the 90s when I was climbing there. I think it was $25 this summer, is that right?

We enjoyed 4 months in New Zealand this year. National parks there have no entrances, no fees, and essentially no rangers. Which was nice. Of course, there, you have to put up with helicopters and planes all over the place.

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:38pm PT
Yosemite, Grand Canyon and Yellowstone rake in a lot of money, 80% of it stays in the park so I do not think they are too short on cash.
WBraun

climber
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:39pm PT
$70 is reasonable.

$69.99 goes to me and 1 cent goes to Congress.

Muhahahahah :-)
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:41pm PT
let the entitled rich trust funders pay for the infrastructure improvements scam.
We already pay for everything else in this country, waste included. If you can't afford to shell out $70 for a day pass, chances are your tax contribution is zero and you shouldn't be entitled to any of the benefits.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:45pm PT
If you can't afford to shell out $70 for a day pass

actually 70 bucks gets you 7 days. Chances are if you can not afford the 70 bucks you are working for little more than minimum wage so that some Morgan Stanley prick can get rich off your hard labor. It is the trickle down theory. Wall Street pisses on your head and it trickles down.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:47pm PT
Free if you're on a bike or on foot sounds about right.
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:49pm PT
actually 70 bucks gets you 7 days.

Seems to me then that the pass should be transferable.

If you buy $70 worth of potatoes you can sell $60 worth to your buddy, right?.
Tan Slacks

climber
Joshua Tree
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
Free if you're on a bike or on foot sounds about right.

Actually the proposal is 30 dollars for bikes and walkers.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 24, 2017 - 05:58pm PT
Harleys should be charged $1000. I wouldn't let em in at all but that wouldn't be 'fair'.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 24, 2017 - 06:01pm PT
The 70 dollar fee would only be in effect from May through September
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Oct 24, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
Pricing people out of those parks is exactly what it will do.
Betcha the annual passes will also at least double in price.
Enjoy the NP's if you can afford it. Sheeesh!

On the surface, it seems counter productive.
It's almost like the trump administration is saying if you want national parks, you have to pay for them.

Oh well, glad I have my senior pass.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 24, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
Or a half day fee at $5.00...?
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Oct 24, 2017 - 06:13pm PT
All that is to raise $68 million dollars for maintenance at an array of parks? The government could just not purchase ONE of the lame F35 still not completed boondoggle fighter jets and that would raise between 97 and 123 million dollars, depending on the model not purchased. But no, best to give the money to Lockheed-Martin rather than support access and maintenance to our public lands.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Oct 24, 2017 - 06:14pm PT
Chances are good yer wrong
Google it and weep, bud, the Curry and Pines inhabitants give nothing and take everything - then ruin it. As for the Morgan Stanley pricks, they actually live off the upper middle classes, everyone below is kept around to wipe butt.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 24, 2017 - 06:32pm PT
NPS should copy Mammoth Mountain and try the "Dynamic pricing " strategy.. Drive 5 hours from So cal. thinking the entrance fee is 70 bucks and when you reach the entrance kiosk the price is $300.00... a clown then jumps out of the booth, honks your nose , and hits you over the head with a giant foam mallet...
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