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squishy
Mountain climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 13, 2017 - 09:40am PT
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How many new rocks, boulders, routes and entire new areas will be opened in the next few years due to these fires clearing these peak forests that haven't burned in 100 years? Just like the history of Phantom Spires...but in Napa? really? Could even be some new accessible multipitch like the choss up near St Helena...who's going exploring?
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Oct 13, 2017 - 05:10pm PT
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Don't know what the fires will reveal, but this post most likely reveals something about you.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Oct 13, 2017 - 05:16pm PT
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Yo, whats the history of the Phantom Spires? They get noticed after a fire, hence the name?
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Knave
Trad climber
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Oct 13, 2017 - 05:35pm PT
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What divad said. What a heartless post. You want choss, perhaps look inward.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Oct 13, 2017 - 05:40pm PT
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WOW...classic post.
So foul
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 13, 2017 - 06:04pm PT
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should be glad ST messaging sucks...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Oct 13, 2017 - 09:28pm PT
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I think the call of the question was more general, not specific to this 'fire' necessarily. But perhaps it is too soon.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Oct 14, 2017 - 06:45pm PT
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Exactly gow many fires have you started looking for new climbing areas?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 14, 2017 - 08:00pm PT
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abonimable drones
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Oct 14, 2017 - 11:52pm PT
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OP just posed a simple climbing related question, and everybody shits their pants in unison.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Oct 15, 2017 - 12:20am PT
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What the fires are showing us is that we are woefully unprepared for them. I'm wondering if we have our best and brightest working on this task.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 15, 2017 - 12:26am PT
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hey there say, mcHale's Navy...
also, nita-- i have been too sad to read anymore, and yet,
the families are FAR MORE sad, and must live with the outcome
of all this...
thank you for sharing this story ...
someone, these folks, would want her remembered...
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 15, 2017 - 06:10am PT
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Benefit granted, Kevin. Robert L's right, it was too soon. A bit more tactful if squishy had waited, possibly.
I know from experience in Box Canyon on the LA/Ventura line and at the old movie ranch there that vegetation re-covers things pretty densely within two years and it favors spots next to the cliffs and bases of boulders because of rainwater retention in those areas.
Jim and I, in our roving, would do one freshly-opened line/problem and come back the next year to repeat it only to have to deal with more growth.
Fires do have a way of making things accessible, for sure.
Thanks for your cool head, dude, now that everyone's vented.
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Knave
Trad climber
Napa
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Oct 15, 2017 - 08:03am PT
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Struck a chord with me. I've got much skin in the game here in Napa and reserve the right to call out bullshit when someone pokes me in the eye, unwittingly or not. I'm over it! We were spared by 2 blocks.
Just recently retired from fire service, I've witnessed many fires, none come even close to this on the iminant death scale. It overwhelmed initial responses on all fronts in a matter of minutes thousands of people had to flee at 0 dark 30. I read this post after a long 5 day push.
Incidentally the rock here is really bad choss festooned with poison oak. But come knock yourself out, you've got spalled waisthigh sandstone or volcanic abominations on private property.
Peace, Tim
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John Morton
climber
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Oct 15, 2017 - 08:43am PT
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Chris Jones lives on a hillside above Sonoma. He wrote that his place was under immediate threat, and his family has evacuated to San Rafael.
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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Oct 15, 2017 - 09:39am PT
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I was thinking about Chris Jones. I'm glad he is OK
Right now some crags At mt. St. Helena are in the burn zone and some of my favorite local boulders at Sugarloaf ridge State park have undoubtedly burned.
Lame OP but can be par for the course around here.
Timid - let me know if you need anything when you are here. Even if we just meet and I buy you a beer.
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Chris Jones
Social climber
Glen Ellen, CA
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Oct 17, 2017 - 08:24pm PT
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Just returned to our perfectly intact home in Sonoma Valley after mandatory evacuation was lifted on the 9th day. Firefighters did an incredible job. We were fortunate that the burn adjacent to our home was low intensity, and not the explosive fires that TV likes to show. But still, fire crept to within 30 feet of our house. We heard that one night a fire protection crew slept on our deck. Now that is service!
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Oct 17, 2017 - 08:35pm PT
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Stoked to hear you made out.
Prayers to those that got burnt
We gotta make some hard decisions to eliminate this stuff?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 17, 2017 - 10:17pm PT
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hey there say, chris... glad you made it out... and that the home was okay, when you got back...
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