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A long way from where I started
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 5, 2017 - 12:08am PT
Back home after four fairly intense work days on another planet (Miami). I got home late tonight, and, after enjoying a real beer (not available on that other planet), I logged in to Supertopo. Where I was confronted by a sidebar ad that has me completely baffled.

As in, did I really get back to earth? Or am I in some kind of alternate Seattle in a really weird dimension where sidebar ads like this one make sense?

¿¿"Tap into the Power of Platelet-Rich Plasma"??

What the f*#k is one to do with what looks like test-tubes full of "platelet-rich plasma"? Draw a syringe-full and inject it? Drink it? Use it as a suppository?

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Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Oct 5, 2017 - 12:11am PT
Low T treatment ;)

Or maybe you're a boxer and it helps the cuts close more quickly?
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 5, 2017 - 12:26am PT
"There's a sucker born every minute."
PT Barnum,
or someone else?
Don Lauria

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Oct 5, 2017 - 12:33am PT
Googled it:

During the past several years, much has been written about a preparation called platelet-rich plasma (PRP) and its potential effectiveness in the treatment of injuries.

Many famous athletes — Tiger Woods, tennis star Rafael Nadal, and several others — have received PRP for various problems, such as sprained knees and chronic tendon injuries. These types of conditions have typically been treated with medications, physical therapy, or even surgery. Some athletes have credited PRP with their being able to return more quickly to competition.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Oct 5, 2017 - 07:39am PT
Class III medical device, locker had "moved on" (like a sawyer) from his beloved blue butt plug.


Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 5, 2017 - 08:27am PT
They've obviously sussed out that climbers aren't tested.
Know yer market!

I'd rather you told us why that AF A380 had an uncontained compressor section failure. :-/

Oct 5, 2017 - 10:10am PT
Now that's an interesting product for 'direct-to-consumer' marketing.

We use PRP for platelet deficiency due to auto-immune, trauma, or neoplasia causes as a temp replacement when no anemia exists, but also for hypoalbuminemia or panhypoproteinemias generally (furry quadrupeds). Conceivable that even without circulating deficiencies, someone might think more (albumin, globulins, platelets, other floaty stuff) would be advantageous to healing the slings and arrows of time or trauma.
I wonder if anyone advocates intra-articular use for chronic joint disease or acute injury?

To get this ad, the internet must think you're old.

Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Oct 5, 2017 - 10:28am PT
Platelets? Why not the whole thing?

"Over the summer it became apparent that Silicon Valley wingnut Peter Thiel was fascinated with the prospect of extending his life by transfusing the blood of younger humans into his veins. This revelation (although not shocking given Thiel's notorious oddities and obsession with fringe elixirs) touched off a storm of cheap vampire-joke headlines. But it also put a spotlight on the trove of research that sparked Thiel's literal bloodlust—studies showing that mice infused with the blood of their youngers experienced signs of rejuvenation and statistically longer lives. "

I can sell you my blood for $10,000 a pint. You will be young and strong like the moose! (Side effects include drooling over pretty girls).


Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 5, 2017 - 10:30am PT
Gross! Blood products direct to consumer now...

This way you can say you've got that guy's fluids... well... in you.

Not that there's anything wrong with that..

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Oct 5, 2017 - 10:35am PT
One of my sisters had a two year persistent elbow area tendonitis that didn't respond to rest, ice, heat physical therapy etc. They finally suggested she try PRP, and she did and...

the injury resolved very quickly after the treatment.
So I guess it's not quackery.

A long way from where I started
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2017 - 11:15am PT
"Class III medical device, locker had "moved on" (like a sawyer) from his beloved blue butt plug."...


Fake news? You mean you haven't moved on from the blue butt plug?

And as for Reilly's question, whatever the cause, it's going to be interesting days ahead for the A380. In 2010, not long after the type entered service, a Qantas A380 suffered an uncontained engine failure. That was a Rolls engine, and the AF plane was running on GE/P&W power, and neither event had anything to do with the airframe manufacturer, but Airbus really doesn't need negative publicity about its A380 right now.

At least none of the bits came slicing through the cabin.

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Nov 10, 2017 - 05:40pm PT
Q: What's better than a Blue Butt Plug?

A: A BlueTOOTH Butt Plug!

But be careful out there... don't use it if you have hacker neighbors!

Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
Nov 10, 2017 - 07:04pm PT
I've had excellent results with PRP with 3 different chronic soft tissue injuries/tears. I'm a believer. YMMV

A long way from where I started
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2017 - 07:23pm PT
I've had excellent results with PRP with 3 different chronic soft tissue injuries/tears. I'm a believer. YMMV

Thanks for that.

Can you elaborate a bit? Like, what is it? How does it Work? Etc etc etc.
Seeing that ad without any background knowledge was bizarre, but if it's a legit treatment for the kinds of problems we (climbers) are likely to suffer, I'm interested.

Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
Nov 10, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
A specific amount of your blood ( about 20-60cc) is drawn then spun down in a centrifuge to concentrate the platelets/healing factors. Then the PRP (roughly 4-10cc depending on injury needs) is injected right into the injury site simultaneously creating localized trauma with the needle thereby initiating an inflammatory response and subsequent healing process while providing additional healing factors with the PRP. For my injuries, laying low for about 3-4 weeks and then slowly ramping activity for the next 4-8 weeks has been very effective. Note that for all 3 injuries I first tried lay offs, PT and other treatments with no success.

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Nov 10, 2017 - 07:54pm PT
You think it might help with my personality transplant, since Hackett failed me there?????

Ice climber
Nov 10, 2017 - 07:57pm PT

In conslusion, PRP is an effective treatment for functional status and pain in moderate knee osteoarthritis and a minimum of two injections is appropriate.

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 10, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
Two treatments, lower back/SI joint sprain healed. After two years of pt, massage, anti inflamatories, MRI showing nothing. I'm a believer.

Pro athletes have been going to Switzerland for this and a simalar treatment using your own stem cells extracted from your own bone marrow for several years before these methods were allowed here.
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