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zBrown

Ice climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 21, 2017 - 10:59pm PT
http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/us-nuclear-arsenal
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Sep 22, 2017 - 04:03am PT
Nothing to worry about, zBrown. Trump's got everything under control!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Sep 22, 2017 - 04:08am PT
But will he be allowed to push the button?

How many times ?

How many will it take?

We have less than the Ruskiees do; some 1500+/-, as I recall hearing
(Very recently too, but I hold out hope that it was all fake news )

Does it matter after three or four?

Nookclear wars are not healthy for babies,

Trupkins-munchkins can go eat shjt

Eclections have nuclear consequences
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 22, 2017 - 06:44am PT
Sounds like a barely sufficient number to me....you always need more than you think to clean out the nooks and crannies.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Sep 22, 2017 - 06:57am PT
"nooks and crannies"! I wonder if people under 30-40 even know what that is?
I haven't heard anyone say that since I was a kid watching Thomas' English Muffins commercials on TV.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 22, 2017 - 07:08am PT
I've wondered, then I've read a number, then I've wondered....About the number I've read...
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Sep 22, 2017 - 07:22am PT
Well, the MilitaryIndustrialComplex need to keep churning out products in the name of good ole USA capitalism. Gotta keep them old white men $happy$ and feeling safe, I heard NK can nuke Martha's Vineyard now..
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Sep 22, 2017 - 07:29am PT
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_the_United_States
zBrown

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2017 - 07:44am PT
Mayweather says:

Each point represents a nuclear weapon—the most destructive device on Earth. The US nuclear arsenal includes over 4,600 weapons.


McGregor differs:
As of 2017, the U.S. has an inventory of 6,800 nuclear warheads; of these, 2,800 are retired and awaiting dismantlement and 4,018 are part of the U.S. stockpile


Mayweather rejoinder:

As Commander in Chief, the president enjoys complete control over the US nuclear arsenal. No one in Congress, the judicial branch, or even the US military can legally prevent their use once the president’s order is given.

McGregor counter

Just when do we reach the point of being one toke over the line?
WBraun

climber
Sep 22, 2017 - 08:03am PT
The POTUS does NOT have complete control over the nuke use.

If suddenly Trump has brain tumor unknown to anyone tomorrow and says launch a nuke at Los Angeles do you really believe the military will do it.

Nukes are made by clueless st00pid gross materialists who have no real intelligence on how to manipulate the inferior material energies to benefit mankind correctly.

Nukes are cave man technology by the clueless low intelligent class masquerading as intelligent ...
John M

climber
Sep 22, 2017 - 09:11am PT
Never trust spook numbers. They lie for a living.

DMT

I would be quite happy if every country who had nukes had lied through their teeth and each only had one or two actual weapons and the rest were fakes/made up. Or what if they had lied and only had the weapons that they had already tested? So had none now. Wouldn't that be great!
zBrown

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2017 - 09:13am PT
Mayweather did say "legally", though

Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, who believed that the framers purposely ignored the issue because of their realization “that almost any means created its own problems and that therefore the matter was to be left to the pressure of events whenever the contingency arose.” And, Frankfurter wrote, “I need hardly add that there were no keener, more resourceful draftsmen than Hamilton and Madison,” so they must have “concluded to leave the matter in the undefined form in which it now stands.”

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 22, 2017 - 09:13am PT
yes, it would be
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 22, 2017 - 09:15am PT
Just one of our Trident subs can handle Rocket Boi and all of his dotards.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 22, 2017 - 12:02pm PT
No Reilly...the dotard is Rocket Boy's third grade playmate....you know, the one in the Whitehouse.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Sep 22, 2017 - 01:21pm PT
The POTUS does NOT have complete control over the nuke use.

If suddenly Trump has brain tumor unknown to anyone tomorrow and says launch a nuke at Los Angeles do you really believe the military will do it.

Nukes are made by clueless st00pid gross materialists who have no real intelligence on how to manipulate the inferior material energies to benefit mankind correctly.

Nukes are cave man technology by the clueless low intelligent class masquerading as intelligent ...

I heard a report, on NPR, that said the North Koreans think that HR McCaster has his finger on the button.

If true, that's not a bad thing. ABBT.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 22, 2017 - 01:23pm PT
No tumor known to medicine could appreciably add to the dotard's current brain dysfunction.
zBrown

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
If I recall correctly NK's first nuke was in maybe 2006 or 2009. The pace of their development seems to have accelerated of late.

Very strong possibility that Russia is aiding/abetting the process.

I would guess that NK has capability of inflicting some major damage, despite the overwhelming disparity between US and NK arsenals.


Figure 2: Seismograms showing vertical ground velocity from North Korea’s October 2006 test (green), May 2009 test (red), and February 2013 test (blue) as recorded at GSN/China Digital Seismic Network station MDJ. A 0.5 Hz high-pass filter has been applied. (IRIS DMC)



zBrown

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2017 - 02:31pm PT
But wait ...

The Real Culprit Behind North Korea’s Missile Threat May Be Vladimir Putin

Not only did the new missile, the Hwasong-14, give the regime for the first time a missile capable of striking most of the U.S. and Canada; Elleman also noticed that its liquid-fuel engines are very similar to a 1960s-era Soviet missile called RD-250. How did the North Koreans make these advances so quickly?



http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451476/th-korea-vladimir-putin-behind-missile-threat

Now I don't know this guy from Adam, but he also said this

Our Missile Defense Agency is currently working on a boost-phase-intercept system using unmanned aerial vehicles equipped with high-energy lasers — but that plan is years away, since the lasers it would need to succeed don’t yet exist. That said, a UAV stationed at an altitude of 50,000–55,000 feet, 350 miles outside North Korean air space, carrying infra-red sensors and a conventional high-speed interceptor missile of 500 lbs. would still have the range, firepower, and time needed to bring down even a large North Korean ICBM in its boost phase. The technology needed to build and deploy such a UAV already exists, and it carries the added advantage of placating Beijing, because it would be stationed too far away to track or shoot down missiles fired from China.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448669/north-korean-nuclear-threat-boost-phase-intercept-remains-best-defense
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Sep 22, 2017 - 03:17pm PT
Here's the seismic record for all 6 NK tests from the NORSAR seismic station in Norway


Some interesting information here RE the latest test here including high resolution synthetic aperture radar (SAR) imagery showing displacement of the ground surface over the shot.

North Korea’s nuclear test site comprises a number of tunnel complexes in mountains surrounding a main support area. Following an initial nuclear explosion in 2006, subsequent nuclear tests have been conducted in a tunnel complex to the North of the support area, under Mt. Mantap. The site contains additional tunnel complexes that may be suitable for nuclear explosions to the south and west of the support area. The Punggye-ri site is capable of hosting nuclear explosions in tunnels with yields of up to a few hundred kilotons.

The displacement and subsidence suggests that the explosion occurred within the tunnel complex under Mount Mantap, which offers overburdens up to 900 meters. If the explosion occurred underneath 900 meters of rock, then it could have been in excess of 300 kilotons — although the North Korean nuclear test site is poorly calibrated and such calculations are sensitive to estimates of how deeply the test was buried.*

Also, an effective technique to mask the yield is to conduct the test in an existing cavity as Nick Danger posted on "The three things that pose a threat..." thread.

The two tests in Mississippi were placed in salt diapirs for test verification purposes as well. The idea was to make a test cavern with the first test, then suspend the "device" from a cable within that first cavity and see if the seismic signal from the second test was attenuated. It was.


http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1203852/sar-image-of-punggye-ri/
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