Do untreated ropes get dirtier?

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Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 9, 2017 - 09:47am PT
Seems like our first untreated rope in, like, forever, gets nasty dirty, seemingly way worse than the treated units we've had in the past. Is this a thing? Thinking about going back to treated lines if it makes a real difference. Just washed it, extra rinse, hands still came away a bit dirty after flaking it out to dry.

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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 9, 2017 - 11:35am PT
Yep, the dry treatment definitely helps in that regard. Beal's "Golden Dry" treatment was awesome in that regard but also noticeable more slippery through a plate.

Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2017 - 11:54am PT
Huh. My experience does not support the Backcountry.com comments.

@Locker: Dood, you gotta get a load of this cord, tho. Phrickin' nasty. Was bright orange (a Rocca line), now virtually black. Definitely wearing gloves for belaying/rappelling.

Any others out there finding treated lines staying cleaner?

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skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Aug 9, 2017 - 12:48pm PT
"The downsides of dry-treated ropes is that they’re more expensive and, more to the point of this article, they tend to get super dirty. Dry-treated ropes pick up dirt from the ground and aluminum from carabiners more easily than their non-dry-treated counterparts, and this turns the ropes black. Rope handling and belaying on these black ropes turns your hands black and makes them feel really greasy, which obviously isn’t ideal for climbing."
-backcountry.com

No that I have a whole lotta experience packed into these last four years, but I have only treated ropes and none has ever felt greasy. And even though I'm more or less an old noob, those ropes get dirty. Every time I go to IC the rope comes back red and I have to wash it. Turned black yes, but I clean them as soon as they start turning black. I like to be able to see the mid points if it's not a bi-color.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 9, 2017 - 03:22pm PT
Yeah, Lockster, I hear you, but we got a good deal on the cord, and the dark blue that was also available would make finding a middle mark totally impossible. I wonder, is there a problem with more frequent washings, like every few weeks? We usually let it go a long time between washings--mostly out of sloth.

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clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Aug 9, 2017 - 03:34pm PT

Only if sold at gyms on the wrong side of the railroad tracks.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID
Aug 9, 2017 - 03:58pm PT
The Isle of Skye is full.
nathanael

climber
CA
Aug 9, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
I find treated ropes stay clean longer

I wash my non treated ropes pretty regularly, we have a front load washer so I just daisy chain it up and toss it in, with the spin cycle it comes out nearly dry and just needs aired overnight to be good to go.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Aug 9, 2017 - 06:25pm PT
the black hands comes from aluminum oxide, rope running through biners and aluminum devices.

if yer toproping a lot get yerself a set of steel anchor biners, steel belay biner, etc.

there, i added my BS to the mix


edit-this topic has been covered many times here
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 9, 2017 - 07:56pm PT
Depends on how you treat them.....
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Aug 9, 2017 - 08:10pm PT
I think it really depends on just how "into it" they are
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Aug 9, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
Backcountry.com, gees. Obviously they're trying to sell you the cheaper ropes.

Never trust 'em.


What's the deal anyway, who climbs in the rain. We're not called dirt-bags for no reason, we nerd dirt-treated ropes.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 10, 2017 - 06:53am PT
No experience with the original post, I've always had dry ropes because that was what was available at the time.

But going forward I would rather buy a cheaper non-dry rope for all the practice craig work and save the more expensive dry for multi-pitch adventure stuff where dry would be needed.

Studly

Trad climber
WA
Aug 10, 2017 - 12:19pm PT
Dry treated ropes the only way to go, especially if you climb around dirt.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Aug 10, 2017 - 01:35pm PT
bAd you have been climbing for over 40 years, you must need attention again, R U bored or something???

If you haven't figured that one out yet.
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