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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
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Marijuana ingestion is believed to stimulate memory...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:11pm PT
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Regular vigorous aerobic exercise is more clinically recognized.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
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Reilly, I have been researching and studying dementia for some years now, could you please tell me were you have your information, please cite as it would be helpful, one never stops learning.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:22pm PT
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Jim, yeah, the saying is, "I forgot I had dementia."
And to make light of it, my late brother Mac always joked about my mom: "Patrick, she gets to meet new people every day." Sometimes you have to laugh at life.
She was in a nursing home in El Sobrante, across the Bay, I was never there I was always here in Ireland, and I would call.
"Mac, Casey?"
"No mom, it is your youngest son Patrick, I am calling from Ireland."
"Patrick?"
She searched her brain, sometimes it would click, sometimes not.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:31pm PT
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Paddy, the wife has been telling me (and all her other patients) that for years and she most certainly would not do so without it being citable. As to the degree of certainty I can not say but I believe the evidence is fairly strong. It certainly can't hurt, can it? ;-)
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:34pm PT
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You are terrible Jim, hah hah. Best wishes, and your name was again, Fred?
We can laugh, but you and I know, in reality, it is not a laughing matter. I just finished a book, image as follows
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:42pm PT
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That is my goal with Health Horizons, a social enterprise.
What I plan is not new or an USP, but it is my passion, and perhaps some new can come out of it, who knows.
I do not think climbing would be suitable for most dementia (I hate that word) sufferers. But, who knows, perhaps a simple climbing wall, very low, very low tech? Might be worth considering.
For years music has been known to be a very good aid for dementia suffers to remember, cognitive stimulation. Dance, if the person is not "handicapped" by a physical condition, is also quite helpful (Jennie received her Honours from the Royal Academy of Dance, RAD, in 1969, one of the best ballet schools in the world).
Maybe for early onset sufferers a simple climbing wall might be a good physical and mental stimulation. It is all about keeping the brain healthy and active (mental agility). If I did a PhD it would be in neuroscience.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:44pm PT
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Nothing ever changes about you. Its always someone else who's the problem.
Boy do you have that wrong. You are so smug. Anders tells me you are a good man, but you are full of yourself. Goddam more judgmental than I am. what an ass hole.
So you deleted that Jim. I still say what I have said, who do you think you are? Anders joked about Irish humour, but you have no humour, you just come across as a know it all. good luck to you. I will never tie in with you and I could guess you feel the same.
Sorry to involve you in this Anders, but this guy is not a nice person.
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Why Jim should I delete my response to your asinine post? Give me one good reason.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
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Reilly, darn right, it cannot hurt. Physical activity is very important. Ping Pong is very helpful, if the person has no mobility issues. Dance is super helpful, and can assist in bringing back memories. Music, so helpful and documented for years as being one of the best mediums for dementia sufferers to recall memories.
There is a lot to learn. I am just on the beginning steps, after almost seven years, I still have a lot to learn.
My goal is to help people have a life, to help them remember. Losing one's memory and identity is a nightmare.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 07:59pm PT
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That is a good reason Jim. If you think so.
I am not in this to flame, you obviously do not like me and went for a cheap shot. I can take it. I just find you sort of funny, and sad.
I am here to try and to raise awareness of a serious issue. You obviously are here to take the mickey out of me, not for the first time. Yawn, I am going to bed and I will not be losing sleep over you.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 08:03pm PT
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Jim, how clever, can we now both stop?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 29, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
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It is good to have you back Patrick. Are you asking about dementia "for a friend"? We all eventually diminish cognitively as we age. But we also, hopefully, have a lot of wisdom and life experience to keep us alive and balanced. That is unless dementia sets in.
In my opinion it's best not to argue fiercely here. We can disagree but learn in the disagreements. The bottom line really is we (mostly) all care about one another here at the campfire. All of us can learn from each other. We need to keep it an atmosphere of peers and Tacohood. Of course this is just my opinion. Again, most of us care about the campfire and those around it.
Cheers, lynnie......and my spelling may suck tonight. Lot's done in the outdoors today and tired.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 08:14pm PT
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Thank you Lynne, you have a good finger on the issue.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 29, 2017 - 08:20pm PT
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Good Night to both you Gents. Tomorrow is another day. Sweetest of dreams!
What is that saying? .........and all's right with the world.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Apr 29, 2017 - 08:24pm PT
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Irish boys like to play rough... The night is young...
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 08:47pm PT
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and then have the most Irish of 4th generation Irish Americans
But you are a Canadian Jim. Not an Irish-American, or am I wrong again. Gosh darn it, I asked for us to stop but you had to get the last word in didn't you Jim. Well, go ahead fire off another stupid missive if it make you feel superior and better, I will not reply. But what a jerk you are.
What is your understanding about dementia? If you know it first hand then you would not be so flippant and slagging me.
Tell me your story about dealing with dementia. I will listen, as all stories can reveal insights into the disease.
But if you are here to diss me for whatever perverse reason, I do not need that. This forum does not need your ignorance and childishness.
I posted about a serious topic and you seem to want to turn it into a farce. I feel sorry for you Jim, I am sure you are a nice guy, but perhaps, insecure?
Regards
Patrick
NB and please let us end it at this, if you want to fire off one last salvo to get in the final word, go for it.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 09:14pm PT
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You have been banned from visiting a hospital by medical professionals.
That is not true and that is not the case, unless you know the facts just shut the f*#k up, you know sh#t about my personal situation, and you are definitely an as#@&%e. In fact what you wrote is libellous, and I can prove you are wrong. So shut the f*#k up Jim, and cry in the corner, thinking you are Mr Know It All the Canadian Trump.
Let us end it there.
You still continue in pretending you're some kind of knight in shining armour who has the answer no one else has thought about.
And you are totally wrong about that Jim. You do not know f*#king sh#t all as#@&%e.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 29, 2017 - 09:18pm PT
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This is important stuff to talk about, it affects every one of us one way or another.
Too bad this discussion got derailed so early!
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
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Thank you Jaybro, I did not intend this thread to go this way, but Jim Brennan seems to have some sort of hard on for me (I hope not that kind) and wants to impose his thoughts on a serious issue.
If they were reasonable thoughts, okay. But he is determined to slag me off.
And I was not banned from a hospital and that SOB Brennan is spreading bullsh#t. There are dynamics in play that he does not understand or have a grasp of, and yet he feels he can judge on. Typical of someone like him, to take half facts and falsehoods and weave them into one.
This thread is about dementia and working with those who are afflicted with it. Period. Just because some as#@&%e tries to impose his beliefs and prejudices about me... maybe I should not have started the thread but I did it in good faith, just to have it hijacked by some... person.
Now I can see why I told myself not to post to this forum months ago. But I thought this thread would generate understanding and feedback, and insight about dementia. Not the fire fight that has developed.
Jesus Christ, all I was trying to do was highlight an important issue. But it was hijacked.
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Nice try Jim, but you still slandered me. I do not really care at the end of the day. It does piss me off your holier than thou attitude, but I know the truth of my situation and you have no clue. Do not try and to rationalise your BS, you are/were wrong about me. You can try and come across as mister nice guy who knows, but as the saying goes, "unless you have walked a mile in my moccasins..."
You are just another blaggard.
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Paddy Sawyer
Trad climber
Lafayette/Ballytrent
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Apr 29, 2017 - 10:00pm PT
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SomebodyAnybody
Do not think that way, that you will get it. Science/medicine is not sure what exactly causes Alzheimer's, there are theories, amyloid proteins (which actually may be beneficial, who knows at this point), tau proteins, there is so much.
Lifestyle, diet, genetics, environment, we just do not know definitively at this point. And remember while Alzheimer's is the most prevalent (WHO says about 75-85% of dementias suffers in the world are Alzheimer's, this can fluctuate, like the disease, we do not know the true stats).
Alzheimer's is the most prevalent, my mother passed away in California 2007, Jennie's mom from Alzheimer's in 2005 in Dublin and Jen has a form of dementia.
Most times she wants to see me, but sometimes not. Dementia fluctuates, a fact the Mr Jim Brennan does not seem to understand and accuses me of being banned from hospitals (not at all I was there twice a day every day, 58 days in St Vincent's, 51 days in St Columcille's or the nursing home (dynamics there that Brennan would never understand). It is not that simple or straight forward, though simple minds may think so.
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