Coruption of language 101.

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capseeboy

Social climber

portland, oregon

Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 21, 2017 - 10:40am PT

Asked a very reasoning guy, who I have coffee with, to define what his definition of a liberal is; as he is prone to blame said LIBERALS for many of the problems in society.

He described a Tyrant, not a Liberal. And he agreed.

LMAO. Seems a lot of back biting is due to the misuse of language. Could it be that many people are on the same page and don't even know it?

The so-called age of communication seems to be in a major melt down.

Splater

climber

Grey Matter

Apr 21, 2017 - 11:32am PT

Ingestion of the acai berry has corrupted the ability to spell.

Ricky D

Trad climber

Sierra Westside

Apr 21, 2017 - 11:34am PT

When I was a kid and needed thongs, I'd receive shoes, not underwear!!

Give them best of both - spank them with a flip-flop.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber

Apr 21, 2017 - 11:36am PT

When it comes to the so-called corruption of language I find myself always deferring to George Orwell before anyone else. I do this because I , like Orwell, consider most deliberately crafted misuse and corruptions of language to be motivated by power interests, especially in the world of politics and culture.

The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.

But then again there is the common misuse of language we all engage in on a daily basis for whatever purpose or intent:

A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts.

mtnyoung

Trad climber

Twain Harte, California

Apr 21, 2017 - 11:59am PT

...language is fluid & changing constantly.

I gotta agree with Tami on this one. Constantly changing.

We raised my 21 year old daughter to speak normal English (defined, of course, as the English that my wife and I speak).

And yet nowadays, when we plan on things to do together, I'm "up" for them and she's "down." She describes a fun event as being "the sh#t," which makes me glad there's no letter "s" on the end. Cool things to me are "dope" to her.

One word that seems to be coming back into fashion with her crowd is "keen." And they even use it correctly. I like that.

neebee

Social climber

calif/texas

Apr 21, 2017 - 12:06pm PT

hey there say, capseeboy... interesting share...

say, dingus, and ward trotter... well said, sadly...

say, i think much of the corruption, etc, is the 'bad heart' or corrupt motives inside, that 'twist' the language into whatever it is that the
'controller' or 'person' is wanting to DO with it (their words)...

and, actually:
politically correct, etc, does a lot of harm that way, too, as,
a wolf in sheep's clothing, type thing...

the wolf know 'how to dress it up' (the stuff being said) so
it can blend in with the sheep and-- well, the wolf come out the winner...

and, then, if someone is from 'old times' and not aware of politically correct, then, suddenly THEY are the 'bad buy' etc...

another example of corruption:
is--
wicked folks that manipulate children, :(
they can use 'so called right words' with CORRUPTION in mind...

so, not only does the situations like tami's as to WORDS changing, as to youth, but:

we get words changing, that NEVER really have changed--it is the USER OF THEM changing them to 'mean whatever they want' ...
:O

wow, it sure can confuse just about anyone... :O

say, is that why the old saying?

... the pen is mightier than the sword?
though both can do damage...

the pen sure could, or should be used, to heal... :(

say, hug your kids and family, tonight, and give some
good non-corruption type words, to them, along with it, :)
(those this style might be a 'bit corrupted' the message is not) ...

:)

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Apr 21, 2017 - 06:03pm PT

Is this a hot topic?

Isn't this a cool thread?

That's a bitchen set of threads, mama.

Gotta match the language with the audience, always, or CORRUPTION ENSUES.

It doesn't "just happen," like shyte.

But it is a natural thing, EVERYONE DOES IT, we all play the fool sometimes, unless we be mindful.

But what is "Mind," anyway?

Flip Flop

climber

Earth Planet, Universe

Apr 21, 2017 - 06:29pm PT

Language has no fixed meaning without context.

zBrown

Ice climber

Apr 21, 2017 - 06:36pm PT

↟↟

Unless of course it's sign language.
-a 'boy' named Sue

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

ne'er–do–well

Apr 21, 2017 - 08:21pm PT

another lamely disguised political thread wow

NutAgain!

Trad climber

South Pasadena, CA

Apr 21, 2017 - 10:26pm PT

The European Union commissioners have announced that an agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications (rather than German, which was the other possibility).

As part of the negotiations, the British government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" and "fosforous" up to 20 persent shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments wil enkourage the removal of double leters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by "v".

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplied to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Zen ze drem vil hav finali kum tru.

mouse from merced

Trad climber

The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.

Apr 22, 2017 - 03:55am PT

Man, EVERYTHING is getting "Euro-ed" now from currency to actual Europeans. Now this?

Gonna need new pogroms for the spell-Czecherz.

perswig

climber

Apr 22, 2017 - 03:57am PT

Esperanto4lyf!

Dale

clinker

Trad climber

Santa Cruz, California

Apr 22, 2017 - 06:32am PT

Send makes me want to ralph.

Thanks for that Nutagain, Zen ze drem vil hav finali kum tru.

August West

Trad climber

Where the wind blows strange

Apr 22, 2017 - 08:40am PT

Those Euro's are pretty smart.

It would be nice if English was a phonetic language.

MikeL

Social climber

Southern Arizona

Apr 22, 2017 - 08:53am PT

Capseeboy: He described a Tyrant, not a Liberal. And he agreed.

Well, and while we’re at it, perhaps we could probe whether there is a fair understanding of what a liberal is, for no matter what words (tokens) are being used, it might be the meanings (or the things they are pointing to) that matter.

I’d imagine that this highly educated crowd might exhibit a great variety of meanings about what a liberal is (without providing individual persons / instantiations). If so, then it’s not the language that’s an issue.