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BASE104
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 1, 2017 - 04:00pm PT
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I watched the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing the other day, and one of the guys testifying how the Russians had exerted influence, made it clear to me that you can't trust anyone on a news item unless they are very reputable.
The Russians had a thousand trolls spreading disinformation on Social Media. 60 Minutes last Friday showed how you could pay a guy less than a grand, and he could take any Twitter story and using bots to re-tweet, or fake Facebook accounts in the same way, getting a massive number of hits and re-tweets from the original disinformation.
The Russians have refined this to an art. Others know how to do it as well.
We have reached a point where you should check everything with either Politifact or Snopes, or a trusted site that tracks false information.
This involves putting our trust back into the premiere news sources. The Big Networks, CNN, and my favorite, the PBS News Hour. You cannot trust the biased agencies for the truth anymore. You can enjoy them politically, but not on urgent matters.
The guy talking to Congress showed how even the big media outlets had been fooled by disinformation, aka: Fake News
Sorry to bear bad news, but now we have to be SUPER critical, and double check everything. Social Engineering is now an advanced tactic, and is being used in France's election as we speak, to elect the uber-right Le Pen.
I'm not saying anything about Trump here. I don't know if he colluded with the Russians or not. Wittingly, anyway. I have been recording the Intelligence Committee hearings, though, and what that one guys said was shocking, especially if you had just seen the 60 Minutes story of how easy it was to spread false information.
The House Intelligence Committee's validity has been sorely tested. However, the Senate hearings have been full of great infotrmation about what the Russians did, and how they did it.
This now has nothing to do with party. The guy testifying told Rubio that he had been targeted during the nomination race. Now Rubio has come public about it, and the Russians tried to get into his computers as recently as this week. Rubio sits on the Intelligence Committee. For now, the Senate is doing a good job.
The house hearings are not so good. Trey Gowdy is on it, so expecting it to be non-partisan vanished the first time he opened his mouth. Then Nunez went off the rails. It will be hard to put back together again, so hopefully the Senate is capable of performing the investigation into what the Russians did during the election. I am more interested in that than the investigation into Trump's campaign. All campaigns these days are dirty. On both sides. The reason? Negative advertising works.
Here is a link to the 60 minutes story. You can watch the senate hearing on the web as well.
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-attack-in-garland-fake-news-chess-country/
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ms55401
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PBS News Hour doesn't do any reporting. better to go with BBC News.
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c wilmot
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So what? You think our govt doesn't do it as well?
NPR actually created a fake account using my screen name to say the exact opposite of what I was saying. Who was behind that? ( they shut down their comments with the excuse that comments were not in the direction of the agenda they were pushing...i.e: public comments are subverting our propaganda..)
ANYTHING you do is used to create a profile of who you are, what your patterns of behavior are, and what kind of threat you might be. I don't doubt supertopo is also used in this fashion. Social media is the perfect spy tool- you don't have spy on someone- they will spill the beans for you
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WBraun
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You idiots believe everything you're told.
Your own US govt and US media can't even be trusted yet you loons scream every day ....
The Russian did it the Russians did it.
You stoopid people are so brainwashed it's unreal ......
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BASE104
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An Oil Field
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
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I have started watching BBC News on PBS.
Britain has different Libel and Slander laws. They can be sued if they get something wrong. In the U.S. the Supreme Court long ago ruled that if you are a "public person," your privacy can be invaded. You CAN say anything. Truth is not important.
It really gets bad in election cycles.
We need to be much more careful about what we believe. It is our duty as citizens to be well informed. If the citizenry is not well informed, then our democracy will not work.
For now, politifact and Snopes are good tools.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
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wB, Your leanings are well known.
The battle was between the money that is the Jews to you, and the money that is the Oligarchs. The Oligarchs won, seems fitting that they will shut down the government
and that you will then have to choose to be or leave too
The parks, especially yours is already for sale to the fastest land stripper.
I'm not the idiot you think I am her Duck
I've been to see how the very rich plan to have it be. . . .
All theirs everything
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BASE104
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An Oil Field
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2017 - 04:31pm PT
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I've been interviewed quite a few times. I've never been happy with the finished product. So I've always looked at certain outlets as suspect.
I have heard that Facebook and Twitter will be trying to filter out fake news, but it will be a tough job. The Russians have more disinformation agents than we have journalists.
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c wilmot
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PBS receives large sums of funding from David Koch. Though I find them to be very neutral in their political stance. NPR? Not so much...
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WBraun
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politifact and Snopes are good tools.
Only idiots believe this crap ......
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divad
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wmass
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I only believe only what I see on ST....
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Mungeclimber
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Nothing creative to say
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Watch for a bogus smear campaign against Watts.
Fuked in the cyber age.
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pud
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Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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You Trusted social media?
naiveté
(British naivety) (also naïveté)
NOUN
1Lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
‘the administration's naiveté and inexperience in foreign policy’
More example sentences Synonyms
1.1 Innocence or unsophistication.
‘they took advantage of his naiveté and deep pockets’
More example sentences
'he believed everything he read due to his naivete'
Origin
Late 17th century: from French naïveté, from naïf, -ive (see naive).
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ecdh
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Bbc became a tabloid 5 years ago. Search any of their stories and you will see the stupid patterns they rally around. They live off a brand name from the 50s.
Economist or nothing.
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crankster
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No. Tahoe
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For actual news, we Earthlings watch the CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley and read the NY Times. It's reporting of real facts by real journalists.
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10b4me
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Retired
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Al Jazeera English
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Byran
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Half Dome Village
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Aside from politics, one of the scariest things about social media is the way that "witch hunts" can go viral. Usually it starts when someone is arrested for some sort of crime and is then released or acquitted, and then a bunch of clickbait news articles pop up that get the story completely wrong and just try to make the whole thing sound as outrageous as possible. Then you'll have thousands of people who take time out of their lives to mail death threats to the persons home, sign petitions to have the judge removed from the bench, try to dig up personal info on who was on the jury, ect, ect... but they can't be bothered to do 10 minutes of google searching to see if the article they read wasn't just a bunch of bullsh#t.
The 3rd season finale of Black Mirror actually does a pretty good job of highlighting this phenomenon.
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ecdh
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Syndication is as much the root of f*#kery as anything else. It spreads bullshit faster than even twitter. Sanctioned lies.
The handfull of current affairs groups that actually have their own reporters out there is about 5.
English isnt a great language of reporting. One may have noticed how many italian, french, danish reporters get nabbed in hot spots compared to all combined english speakers.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
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Apr 27, 2017 - 04:09am PT
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Is anyone else still getting crap links to bogus stories?
I delete three or four a week, I would qualify as minimum use of the Email, compared to almost anyone.
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