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rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 1, 2017 - 05:10am PT
Mike Hall, cycling legend, hit by car and killed in long distance endurance race across southern Australia.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/31/british-cyclist-mike-hall-killed-during-race-in-australia
John Mac

Trad climber
Breckenridge, CO
Apr 1, 2017 - 06:43am PT
very tragic. He was an inspiration.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Apr 1, 2017 - 06:44am PT
Damn. He was an amazing soul, no doubt about it. I first learned about him from that excellent documentary about the Race Across America. I've done a lot of long-distance touring, and the risk of getting smacked is always there. Because of cell phones, I feel the risk has definitely increased. With Hall's insane mileage, he was in the line of fire a lot. A real shame. Ride on, Mike Hall. In heaven, cars are used for planters, and everyone rides a bike.

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crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Apr 1, 2017 - 07:17am PT
Awful, terrible news. His Tour Divide rides are legendary and inspirational.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 1, 2017 - 07:28am PT
hey there say, ... oh my, this is so awful... :(

dear family and friends of mike:
my condolences and prayers at this awful sad time, as,
you now go onward without your loved one, :(

thank you, rockermike, for sharing, so we can
do the little that we can to just show we care...

oh my, a real good-guy, and dearly loved:

Race organisers said in a statement: “Mike revelled in the spirit and adventure of ultra-endurance cycling events. Mike’s efforts in both raising money and the spirits of others were tremendous and he leaves an incredible legacy.”

:(

looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Lassitude 33
Apr 1, 2017 - 07:46am PT
An inspirational athlete. Very sad news.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2017 - 06:43pm PT
Damn
Another ultra endurance cyclist killed yesterday (Saturday). Eric Fishbein, 61 yrs, from San Luis Obispo, struck from behind somewhere in Kansas, while competing in the TransAmerica race.




http://cycling.today/american-ultra-distance-cyclist-killed-during-trans-am/
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 18, 2017 - 08:03pm PT
If you use your phone while driving ? STOP IT.

x2

At most every traffic light around here there's a new 5+ second "phone delay" when the light turns green. It seems to be widely accepted too as just about every driver is furiously pecking away or staring at a glowing screen.


Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jun 18, 2017 - 08:37pm PT
When you're sitting in the driver's seat of your car hold up a pencil vertically about steering wheel distance away. That's what it takes to conceal a cyclist.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jun 18, 2017 - 09:49pm PT
I'm certain that phones and texting are large contributors, but it's an attitudinal thing.

Cyclists, peds
Other cars be damned
My interests, puny as they may be, are more important than your life.


Almost makes you want to get packed and start shooting out of being in fear for your life.


ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jun 18, 2017 - 10:03pm PT
Sad RIP -I seen so much destruction within the last year - dumbf*#k drivers oblivious to everything. Witnessed (at close range) a longboarder get hit by a car 2 days ago. Because of this I only ride on the sidewalk, but even that wasn't enough - an AH within inches would have taken me out if I hadn't swerved a bit.
BruceHildenbrand

Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
Jun 19, 2017 - 04:26am PT
I rode with a guy last year who was run over by a 16-year old who was texting. The car behind the teenager saw the whole thing unfolding and was blaring his horn trying to get the driver's attention. Even that didn't work.

It's a pity that when you talk to some drivers they say that they are more attentive when driving if they are using their cell phone. Stanford University did a study a few years ago to see how productive people are when they are multitasking(like driving a car and texting a the same time). The gave a group of people five tasks to perform.

In the first phase of the test the participants had one minute each to complete each of the five tasks. In the second phase the participants were given the a block of five minutes to complete all the tasks which was supposed to simulate multitaksing. Not surprisingly, the completion rate was much higher when the participants were given one minute to complete each task and not multitasking.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Jun 19, 2017 - 05:29am PT
There are 'ghost bikes' popping up all around my extended neighborhood in eastern PA where there are a ton of cyclists. One inattentive moment and many lives are changed forever. I stopped road riding because of this; I only mountain bike now. And that's even filled with lunatic riders that are dangerous to others. But that becomes one-on-one and I have a much better chance in that circumstance than dealing with 3000 pounds of speeding metal.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 19, 2017 - 05:31am PT
Correct me if i'm wrong but there seems to be an emphasis on pulling over motorists who have a license plate light out in hopes of scoring a DUI while motorist driving wrecklessly get a free pass...Riding a bike around here seems to be getting riskier with all the type A flatlanders racing from point a to point b...
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 19, 2017 - 07:14am PT
In the first phase of the test the participants had one minute each to complete each of the five tasks. In the second phase the participants were given the a block of five minutes to complete all the tasks which was supposed to simulate multitaksing. Not surprisingly, the completion rate was much higher when the participants were given one minute to complete each task and not multitasking.

The human brain is a single-core processor when it comes to higher level tasks... you can spawn as many threads as you like but they're all serviced one at a time by the scheduler.

10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Jun 19, 2017 - 07:21am PT

It's a pity that when you talk to some drivers they say that they are more attentive when driving if they are using their cell phone.
Yes, they are attentive to the cell phone.
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Jun 19, 2017 - 08:16am PT
This is so ez to fix within the phone its ridiculous.

The phone knows that it's moving.

If velocity > 0 then airplane mode. Can't communicate at all, shut off the kybd. Only thing that should work is 911 calls. This should be the default state for a moving phone.

We drove for nearly 100 yrs without bloody phones in our cars.
mooch

Trad climber
Tribal Base Camp (Kernville Annex)
Jun 19, 2017 - 08:34am PT
If velocity > 0 then airplane mode. Can't communicate at all, shut off the kybd. Only thing that should work is 911 calls. This should be the default state for a moving phone.

I like your way of thinking Sal. I'm right there with a few of you. Thinking of selling my road bike and going over to Mtn simply because I've had some close calls and feel that my ticket will eventually get punched. I'd much rather buy the farm from my own undoing. If anyone is interested, I have a 2013 Cannondale Hi-Mod Super Six Evo, all Dura Ace components and Enve 40 carbon wheel sets (Dura Ace 9000 standard crank with 11:28 cassette). It's in excellent condition. I can send photos.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jun 19, 2017 - 08:41am PT
I have cut my road miles way down and stayed mostly on my mtb because of the phone thing. Seems like every day I see some near disaster. I miss the road, but the odds aren't as good as they used to be ;-(
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jun 19, 2017 - 09:09am PT
Seems that this is sort of like the Fox News crowd's belief that crime is getting worse when, in general, that isn't true.

From what I can find, bicycling is significantly safer than it used to be, although fatality numbers seem to be pretty flat in recent years, and of course, no one really knows how many people ride bikes for how many miles, so it's hard to have good insight in deaths per miles ridden.

Riding bikes has always been at least a somewhat risky proposition, probably kind of similar to climbing. The notion that it was safer "back in the day" (more than a few years ago) is fake news--fatalities peaked decades ago.

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