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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 5, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
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Heidi & I attended a fun Public-Lands Rally at the Idaho Capital on Saturday. The rain stopped around 10:45 as the large crowd gathered.
The first photo is a view of part of the large crowd, from the Capital steps, before the inspiring, fun, & blessedly short, speeches started at 11:00. Crowd size was estimated as 2,800 to 3,000 hikers, anglers, hunters, river-runners, backcountry runners & bikers, ATV = OHV riders, & even a few climbers.
The inspiring speakers included a mountain biker, the owner of a hunting clothing company, a representative of Idaho’s Indian tribes, a backcountry runner, & a dirt-biker. The crowd was encouraged to yell "HELL YES!" as various good points were made.
I was excited to see the diversity of public land users represented, since many of us believe that traditional conservationist groups don’t have the political clout to win this fight to keep OUR PUBLIC lands PUBLIC.
After the speeches, we were encouraged to peacefully occupy OUR capital building. Heidi got to practice her selfie skills from the 2nd floor balcony.
A good time was had by all & I hope some of our legislators & congressmen read the newspaper stories or watch the TV news. Damn few of them were there.
Here's links to such:
http://www.postregister.com/articles/featured-news-daily-email-outdoors-west/2017/03/04/public-lands-rally-draws-big-crowd
channel 7 ktvb estimates nearly 3000 at rally
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/nearly-3000-rally-for-public-lands-at-idaho-capitol/419826645
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Taking it to the streets for a good cause, Fritz.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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Thanks for marching, and sharing, Fritz.
We face a tough battle, but I feel public lands should remain public.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Thanks and congratulations for standing up for the cause.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2017 - 09:24pm PT
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Here's a very short video that Heidi took of the public lands rally, that shows some of the crowd energy.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Thank ya kindly Fritz!
In the meantime the twitter storms are forming out East and spraying down misinformation to the west whilst these dastardly deeds play out.
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Hardly Visible
Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
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Good for you,
who would of ever thought we would be walking arm in arm with the atv and bullet crowd, but like you I'm with anybody who wants to keep public lands public at this point.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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RESPECT !!
Thank you for taking the time to stand up and help support this noble effort.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Living up to Lincoln's message (also mercifully short).
OF, BY, & FOR THE PEEPS!
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Idaho is the perfect place to work this out since 80% of the land in Idaho is public land.
I can't tell if the Republican/Trump agenda is to dump federal lands into private hands or move it to State control.
Moving it to private hands is insane and very short thinking. Actually, treasonous.
Moving it to State control has an appeal to the more republic philosophy. A lot of good could come if good people are in charge at the state level. But in the modern mobile world, land users are just as likely to come from out of state making the current federal model just fine.
Federal land management needs an overhaul with much of it still running on 19th century thinking. I'm talking about franchising the land for grazing, timber, mining and water rights. This land belongs to you and me and for the last few decades I think those franchise holders have not paid their fair share. Recreational franchising is another potential area of income to the government to fund proper land managment.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Heartening to hear so many diverse user groups there.
There may be small differences between user groups. But those pale in comparison to the differences between the outdoor rec groups and the real estate developers and extractive industries.
If we're going to prevail in these fights, the outdoor groups need to work better together and set aside those differences, or compromise, in the interest of not losing the bigger fight.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Over the last couple decades the federal land grab, especially under Obama,has been nothing short of greedy in the extreme.And yet we're expected to believe that it is an "uphill battle". A sort of cry for justice.
Still the "sagebrush Left" depicted in the photos have a sort of pitiful , beleaugered look about them-- hard to understand after having largely gotten their way over recent years-- it may now be their turn to get it in the shorts. No wonder everyone there looks so " throat clearingly " concerned.
This all could be due to the crowd at the demonstration unquestionably sporting a " watered-down" aspect in their various demeanors. This is squarely because they are libtards who do not reside in Libtardia. They are sadly alienated; out of place, mostly older enviro-boomers bemoaning the possibility their beloved lands will fall away from the cloying grasp of Washingtonian bureaucrats and into an uncertain future with state bureaucrats.
What ? No rampaging anarchists ?
No bused-in rent-a-mobs.
Somebody has been shirking their Alinsky readin' of late.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Moving it to State control has an appeal to the more republic philosophy. A lot of good could come if good people are in charge at the state level.
The problem with moving public lands to state control, is that you have states like Utah. . . . .
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2017 - 04:33pm PT
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This below link was posted on Backcountry Hunters & Angler's Facebook page today. They are doing a great job of keeping OUR PUBLIC Lands PUBLIC in red states like Idaho. I suspect most of their members would be glad to argue that they are not fuking liberals.
The fight is not a liberal vs conservative fight, or a Republican vs Democrat fight. It is a pro-access vs no-access fight.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/322537-gop-chairman-seeks-50m-to-transfer-federal-land#.WL3wQBTSQC8.facebook
Here's the article in photos.
GOP CHAIRMAN SEEKS $50,000,000 TO TRANSFER FEDERAL LANDS
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Still the "sagebrush Left" depicted in the photos have a sort of pitiful , beleaugered look about them-- hard to understand after having largely gotten their way over recent years-- it may now be their turn to get it in the shorts. No wonder everyone there looks so " throat clearingly " concerned. What a pitiful, misinformed, and, frankly, stupid response. So this is about the left getting a comeupance, not about protecting public lands? Is that really a greater priority for you? Is that really a greater priority for the right? They'd rather see the other side unhappy, even if it is a loss or them as well?
BTW, with a Republican 'party of no' in the House and Senate for the past two administrations the left has definitely NOT gotten their way.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2017 - 06:33pm PT
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Fat Dad! Good on you!
It's worth mentioning again:
The fight is not a liberal vs conservative fight, or a Republican vs Democrat fight. It is a pro-access vs no-access fight.
Here's a shot I took at the Boise Idaho Public Lands Rally last weekend. Lots of folks wearing camo in the picture.
And a sign at the rally addressing the subject of "paid protesters"
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WBraun
climber
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So boring, no clash with police, no flash bangs, no blood, no arrest, no straight jacket, just talking.
Hahaha ..... just yanking yer chain ...... :-)
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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And no Pussy hats...?
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2017 - 12:29pm PT
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For those here that think OUR Federal PUBLIC lands would be better managed by the individual states, I must strongly disagree. State mismanagement is just the next step to converting those lands to private hands.
The Idaho State Senate is already planning on it per this email I received today from Backcountry Hunters & Anglers.
Meanwhile, in Idaho, the state legislature has introduced a bill (S 1065) to limit any new state lands and prioritize the sale of “excess state lands.” Take a minute to remind your elected officials where you stand on public lands – tell them to drop the unpopular land transfer agenda and put their energy toward real public land management solutions, such as HCR 20, which failed on Monday, but would have directed the Idaho Department of State Lands to unlock landlocked state lands – lands that Idahoans currently own but cannot access.
Thank you again for joining the growing force of public land owners who are stepping up and making our voices heard.
Tim Brass
http://www.backcountryhunters.org/
If you want to join in this fight, one positive step would be to join Backcountry Hunters & Anglers.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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What's interesting about this is that there appears to be virtually no public support or interest in transferring public lands to states or to private industry (which is basically the same thing in most states). It seems to be purely pushed by politicians bought off by industry.
Anyone even remotely interested in outdoor activity should oppose land transfers. Federal land was bought with U.S. blood and treasure (rightly or wrongly) and it belongs to all of us.
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