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chefer
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Altadena, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 16, 2017 - 09:52pm PT
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Joshua Tree n00b here. Does anyone know the status of the pit? Havent been able to find much recent info on it. Is it still around?
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jstan
climber
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Feb 16, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
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The Pit is still there but due to zoning complaints received by the authorities, the owner of the
property can no longer allow camping. That is what I understand.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Feb 17, 2017 - 08:49am PT
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The pit is closed.... it was starting to attract aliens from Mars and after one crashed their spacecraft, it was deemed a fire hazard.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Feb 17, 2017 - 09:19am PT
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Occasional squatters still show up, and are usually rousted by the Sheriff on the late night patrol.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 17, 2017 - 09:44am PT
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It takes a special sort of twisted tool to get off on rousting people in the middle of the night
from a place like that. How is that upholding a mandate "To Serve and Protect"? If it is
private property then it seems incumbent on the owner to fence and gate it.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 17, 2017 - 09:52am PT
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The property owner probably gave the LEOs authority. I wonder how this affects the VRBO and AirBnB people renting camping space in their yards. Seems like the pit became a sort of cluster bomb, with mini-pits all over town.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 17, 2017 - 09:55am PT
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Amen, gf, especially if they're too stoopid to know there's 10 million acres of legal
free camping nearby.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 17, 2017 - 09:55am PT
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Since climbers are no longer at the site there has been an increase in dumping. I have kept it clear of
residential trash such as TVs, sofas, and bedding but landscape cuttings do present a problem. At this
time I need to gather the cuttings together and bury the ashes from the burn.
An erosion gully is developing that will interfere quite effectively with entry from the East. After that is
complete the way can be restored using the landscape cuttings to vertical mulch the Eastern entrance.
The entry from the West remains problematic.
I could use some help.......
Edit:
For a brief time the site was used by a homeless person. I just remove trash from active homeless sites. Not my place to do more.
To reach free camping recommended by the NPS:
Go North on Sunburst.
Turn right on "....los amigos" at the northern boundary of the school property. Be aware Los Amigos will turn into "Broadway" after mile or so.
Go till you see RVs parked around and there is a single road sign nailed to an isolated power pole. I forget the name of that road.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 17, 2017 - 09:58am PT
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The Pit was nice for what it was, and I appreciated it.
I've been sleeping in Walmart which is practically an RV park on Thursday-Saturday nights, and has at least 4-5 "regular" vans on other nights. No hassles from the outside world.
The only downside is that I haven't a place to set up and cook. I like to use the full set up two burner stove with the 20lber, and do not like having to pull out the entire bin of gear and put it all away when done. But many people cook much ore simply. So, I am spending money on food at restaurants, and I now realize I would have probably spent only a little more by camping somewhere "official" longterm. Oh well....sometimes I am a little slow. Still paying ore for "free wifi" as well, instead of getting back on a mobile broadband plan.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 17, 2017 - 10:02am PT
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JStan - I am here until March 5th and have free time. Do you have any upcoming dates where you might like to meet up?
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chefer
climber
Altadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2017 - 10:16am PT
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A bummer - it seemed like an interesting place. I guess it's gonna be BLM for me this weekend. If anyone needs a partner I'll probably be hanging around hidden valley Sunday and Monday.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 17, 2017 - 11:49am PT
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Happi:
The ten day forecast predicts good weather on 23 and 24(next Thursday/Friday. Until the weather
looks bad shall we plan to meet at the pit next Thursday/23rd at 10AM? I have tools and supplies.
We can prune the cuttings down to the needed shape, haul them to the place they are to be used. And
rake up the ashes and bury them. This is a lot. I may be able to get another person or two to join in. In
the Clean Team we usually repair afterward to the Park Rock Cafe to tell lies. If interested we could do
that too.
If the Eastern access has already been closed by natural processes then we can do at least some
vertical mulching.
Here too I need some ST help. Before we can really go ahead with this I need to contact Wally Barker.
Anyone here know how to contact him? Need to know right away.
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jstan
climber
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Feb 18, 2017 - 10:55am PT
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Happi:
I have to cancel working on the Pit. My truck is in the shop. Hope you see this.
John
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Feb 18, 2017 - 03:44pm PT
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Amen, gf, especially if they're too stoopid to know there's 10 million acres of legal free camping nearby.
At least until the feds turn it over to California, and then California sells it to a solar company for cheap or something like that.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 18, 2017 - 03:52pm PT
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Twas truly a "pit" not fit for man nor beast.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 18, 2017 - 04:05pm PT
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JStan - I see your posts. Sorry about your truck!
If you'd like to exchange phone #, you can contact me through my chalkbag shop at https://www.etsy.com/shop/ClimbAddictDesigns
I'm going to be here till around March 5th - only about two more weeks, unfortunately, but happy to do some work if you set time/date.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Feb 18, 2017 - 04:17pm PT
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Jstan, you can talk to Wally on FB👽
vvv Hahahahaha, you little devil
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jstan
climber
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Progress report on the JT Pit.
And the associated 18 acres need refreshing. Comes at a bad time. There are pillows alongside Rt.62 that are visible to National Park visitors. Park season is nearing.I have four miles of shoulder to work on East of La Contenta. Eight days of work there. Never rains but it pours.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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What a shame. Once you hauled out all that trash from the Pit a few years ago, the place was kept nicely. It's kind of sad that people are dumping there.
I a heading away on Sunday, JStan. Next winter, I hope I can spend some time working with you on some of your cleanups. Sorry it didn't happen this season.
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jstan
climber
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Happi:
Next winter. You are on. In the interim, drive low and slow.
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