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couchmaster
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 20, 2017 - 01:47pm PT
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When I think of "Fake News it's usually some jackass in some forigon country making up something to get clicks so as to make a few bucks. Yet more and more, we are seeing fake stories, slanted media, outright lies and literally tampering with videos to change the meaning from what have always been considered mainstream news sources. The worst recently certainly seem to have been The New York Times, The Washington Post and CNN taking the lead over this role traditionally preserved by Fox News. Even the Guardian was recently caught "misinterpreting" an interviewer and the interviewee called bullshit on them. Seem that both sides of the aisle have their issues, recently it's been directed at Trump of course. But there's been plenty the other way. Polls of citizen trust (mistrust) have the media generally lower than dog sh#t. Today, one of the the YMCA gyms has banned CNN from their televisions. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/20/valparaiso-ymca-accused-of-censorship-after-banning-cnn-from-tvs/
I've been generally happy with http://whowhatwhy.org/ They seem to hate everybody equally but usually try and research first, of course Trump is the top of the headline newsmaker these days and the stories don't involve him being kind to dogs or some such. It wasn't that long ago they were giving the same treatment to the last President. http://whowhatwhy.org/2017/01/08/worried-trump-might-blame-obama-handing-means/ is still up as an example.
What are some of your more honorable or reputable go to news sites?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jan 20, 2017 - 01:59pm PT
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The straightest news source that I have found is Sign of the Times,
http://www.sott.net
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jan 20, 2017 - 02:16pm PT
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fake news is not the problem. it has been going on for years in print. think national enquirer and all that tabloid sh#t.
the problem is when the general population is not smart enough to know that its fake news. a russian friend once told me, "At least in the USSR we knew it was all propaganda BS, but in the states people dont know."
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jstan
climber
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Jan 20, 2017 - 02:17pm PT
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Now we know. So we are making progress!
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 20, 2017 - 02:27pm PT
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"At least in the USSR we knew it was all propaganda BS, but in the states people dont know."
Americans are stupid idiots in general.
They'll swallow any diarrhea that Washington Post NYT and CNN Fox ABC CBS NBC PBS Huffington Nutcase and all the rest of these etc etc etc spoon feed them every day.
The Hillary fools on this forum are proof defacto for their constant diarrhea pollution of Main Stream Media garbage they copy and paste here daily.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jan 20, 2017 - 02:33pm PT
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Most of us who don't live in a bunker that only Alex Jones can penetrate know and trust the NYTimes. Independent, fact-based journalism. NPR is awesome. The networks were usually reliable but too much corporate influence has pushed them into the entertainment field, hence, Comrade Trump.
Just about everything said on Fox is fake, with the exception of Shep Smith. Conservative talk radio is the worst. 24/7 lies.
Breitbart is 100% fake news, as is WND.
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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Jan 20, 2017 - 02:41pm PT
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I don't pay for TV and no TV comes in over the airwaves where I live now, so most of my news comes from NPR radio and NPR Live Stream- specifically KQED in the Bay Area. No fake news on NPR.
They do a pretty good job of vetting stories before they put them on the broadcast and will always tell the listener when the news that is aired should be considered preliminary. I don't have twitter, nor facebook, I don't regularly visit internet news outlets. If I'm curious about a story I hear on NPR, I'll hunt around the web for more info.
NPR does not have to make a profit and does not have to hire good-looking anchors. Sure they skew left, but that's because they are comprised of lefties (as is much of "mainstream media"). They do try to be impartial despite their personal ideologies. So I take their news with a grain of salt and sometimes curse them through the radio when they fail ask the right questions in an interview or other indiscretions as I see them.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 20, 2017 - 04:18pm PT
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The worst recently certainly seem to have been The New York Times, The Washington Post and CNN
That's a completely ludicrous claim.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Jan 20, 2017 - 04:26pm PT
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. . . know and trust the NYTimes
Probably fairly trustworthy, but even there one frequently finds a liberal spin.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 20, 2017 - 04:34pm PT
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...but even there one frequently finds a liberal spin.
It's the New York Times for god's sake. That's like saying one frequently finds a conservative spin with the Wall Street Journal. You're expecting otherwise at either one?
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Jan 20, 2017 - 04:37pm PT
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I'd say the lack of critical thinking skills is a major problem for us right now. It's particularly a problem among the young and on social media. And it's not just the conservative side of the house falling for fake news.
Many liberals are just as bad. I see bogus crap floating around my Facebook page all the time. And you don't have to look very hard to find stupid claims about vaccines, GMOs, diets, cleanses, and other specious topics being shared by liberals.
Yes, NYT, WaPo, Guardian and NPR are somewhat liberally biased. And WSJ and the Economist lean conservative. But I can count on their news(as opposed to opinion pages) to be well-researched and mostly factual.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Jan 20, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
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Sometimes fake news is done by subtle omissions among factual reporting.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Jan 20, 2017 - 05:05pm PT
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Certainly that happens and has always happened. But I'd still guess that the major, long-standing news organizations are less guilty of that.
The bigger problem is the blatantly false news. Hillary running child sex ring in pizza restaurant. Obama going to put the US under Sharia law. We somehow need to do a better job at both stopping that BS form starting, keeping people from sharing it as if it were trustworthy.
The tabloid stories about celebrities having children with aliens are relatively harmless. The recent proliferation not so.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jan 20, 2017 - 05:12pm PT
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. . . know and trust the NYTimes
Probably fairly trustworthy, but even there one frequently finds a liberal spin.
yeah
a good example would be the Times full support of the conservative Bush's Iraq invasion
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Norton
Social climber
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Jan 20, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
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And yours as well?
of course not Dingus, just pointing out the fallacy of the NY Times being labeled as "liberal"
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 20, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
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Whilst most here prefer "straight from the horse's ass", I'd be satisfied with "straight from Francis the Talking Mule's mouth".
JFC
Gotta love a guy who could kill hundreds of thousands of civilians and not lose any sleep over it.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Jan 20, 2017 - 07:33pm PT
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Werner-Americans are stupid idiots in general.
They'll swallow any diarrhea that Washington Post NYT and CNN Fox ABC CBS NBC PBS Huffington Nutcase and all the rest of these etc etc etc spoon feed them every day.
The Hillary fools on this forum are proof defacto for their constant diarrhea pollution of Main Stream Media garbage they copy and paste here daily. SAD!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 20, 2017 - 07:41pm PT
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Sott is controlled by the Quantum Future Group, which is some kind of new religious movement. They are fascinated by aliens.
http://www.quantumfuture.net/
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Jan 20, 2017 - 07:45pm PT
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Americans are stupid idiots in general.
I wonder if that's a nature thing or a nurture thing. And the way it's especially the Hillary supporters on this forum - hm, nature or nurture?
Maybe Trump supporters were just born with more smarts, so they didn't need to get as much education as Hillary supporters?
And the nonwhites with a college degree who voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, while the whites with college degrees who voted for Trump - heck, maybe it is nature after all.
Or what is the difference in nurture between Clinton supporters (like the 88% of blacks who supported her) and Trump supporters?
Oh heck, my brain hurts, I'm just gonna stick with the stupid Merican thing.
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