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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 28, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
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Done.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 28, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
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I have mixed feeling about that wonderful area becoming a Natural monument. I suspect our casual roadside car camping & hiking anywhere we want to go, may soon be ended.
It certainly is "huge!"
But, if Obama can piss off both of Utah's Conservative senators this much, it's not all bad.
Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch on Wednesday issued a scathing indictment calling Obama's action an "attack on an entire way of life" and an "astonishing and egregious abuse of executive power" that far exceeds the intent of the Antiquities Act.
"In the next Congress under President [Donald] Trump, I will do everything in my power to reverse this travesty," Hatch said.
He said he'll meet with Trump's pick to lead the Interior department, Montana Rep. Ryan Zinke, to discuss reversing the monument, and he and fellow Utah Sen. Mike Lee plan to reintroduce legislation exempting Utah from the Antiquities Act.
"This arrogant act by a lame duck president will not stand," Lee said in a statement. "I will work tirelessly with Congress and the incoming Trump administration to honor the will of the people of Utah and undo this designation."
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Dec 28, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
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Yay!!!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 28, 2016 - 09:20pm PT
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remember this, Indians. Remember who stood with your concerns this year.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Dec 28, 2016 - 09:31pm PT
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Orrin Hatch, someone who has been there way too long.
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c wilmot
climber
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Dec 29, 2016 - 06:27am PT
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More land for the park service to maintain with 13 BILLION dollars of "deferred maintenance". With no additional funding get ready for your national park to have less money to attempt to maintain their infrastructure that is already crumbling.
His actions are nothing more than political pandering to people who don't understand our park services budget shortfalls. Why add to what you currently don't properly fund?
This is like congratulating a woman on welfare for having another kid
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Dec 29, 2016 - 06:34am PT
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cwilmothatch
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Dec 29, 2016 - 06:38am PT
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This "arrogant act by a lame duck President" is a preemptive act. You know what Trump will try to do with anything that can be "developed" in any way possible. I'm glad Obama got this done prior to January 20.
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c wilmot
climber
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Dec 29, 2016 - 06:48am PT
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I worked for the NPS and understand the budget shortfalls. Criticize me if you want but I posted the truth
Our society wants to "feel good" while ignoring reality
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Dec 29, 2016 - 06:57am PT
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c wilmont, at one level, I'm not disagreeing with you. This has been a problem for a long time--and as someone who's worked in the NPS, you see that more acutely than many. At another, I feel this is a last minute measure to do something to prevent Trump from truly screwing up yet one more thing that is precious to many of us. You have to know that he'll do whatever he can to help the GOP "lawmakers" give private industry the opportunity to make money off of undeveloped lands. Once that starts, it will be irreversible. Ain't no easy way through this, and I do affirm that it's not a simple either/or proposition.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 29, 2016 - 07:04am PT
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Does this mean no fixed anchors there?
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c wilmot
climber
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Dec 29, 2016 - 07:08am PT
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Unfortunately it's a GOP majority in congress and the nps will likely continue to be underfunded. Only now they are burdened with more land to mismanage
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 29, 2016 - 09:56am PT
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DMT will trump just give the stick back to Orin once he pulls it out of his eye?
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 29, 2016 - 10:23am PT
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Obama has now designated over 553 million acres as "Monument" under the Antiquities Act far exceeding all presidents combined use of this outdated legislature.
Can't wait for this idiot to leave office.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 29, 2016 - 10:42am PT
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Long overdue...
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 29, 2016 - 10:47am PT
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^^^ Yeah, Obama's departure.
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