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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 9, 2016 - 08:18am PT
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I know nothing about eating healthy, so gonna have to do some research.
Can anyone recommend some resources?
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Shame on you, Locker....
Yer....
Gonna....
DIE!
BAd
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Have fun withering away!
On a serious note, avoid tofu. Full of estrogen.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2016 - 08:30am PT
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Thanks for the input Locker.
I'll check it out.
Got your Xmas gift.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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You know nothing about eating healthy but you are going vegetarian?
What is your objective and do you have health issues that better nutrition would help. Everyone is different. The latest fad may not be for you.
First suggestion is shop the edges of the store, all the processed garbage is in the middle of the store.
Only two weeks after quitting BACON...
Bacon as the new breast enhancement supplement?
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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South Indain, Thai and Mediterranean styles are good places start IMO. Americans severely lack and understanding of how to eat vegetarian. In S. India for example it has been going on for 1,000's of years. I still crave meaty things and have it it on Fridays and Tuesdays for funness.
I eat a lot of nuts and seeds for snacks along with a variety of legumes in my meals and of course, milk in my cereal.
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zip
Trad climber
pacific beach, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2016 - 09:18am PT
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I'm just looking to be healthier, riding my body of impurities, and not eating animals anymore.
I'm dating a lady who is Vegetarian, from India, and director of dietary service at a hospital.
She's pretty sharp, and very fit, so I thought I would give it a go.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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When I met my girlfriend (now wife), I was an open minded meat eater who liked to cook.
Now, I'm a better cook who never eats cow, only has the occasional slice of bacon, and gets protein from poultry, fish, and plant based sources.
My advice, get a good veg cookbook (Cooks Illustrated has a great one), get better at cooking, and be adventurous.
Maintain your exercise levels, obviously, and find what works for you as far as getting enough protein. Tofu is not something I personally like, and there are other ways to stay healthy without eating it.
For example, in my fridge I've got a batch of Pinto bean, bulgur, and beet veggie burgers. The recipe uses walnuts, so it's a diversified protein source. Plus, out of the ten or so veggie burger recipes I've tried, it's got the most meat like flavor I've come across. It's not cow, but it's pretty freaking tasty.
Experiment, and have fun with cooking. I haven't regretted it at all (though I'm not a veg).
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Most of us would benefit from eating more veggies, for sho. But if God had meant us to only eat veggies, he wouldn't have made animals so delicious.
BAd
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Not eating meat is no big deal.
Sheesh you all make it sound so...scary.
Big deal.
Most of the world pop. pretty much is veg. mostly cuz it's too pricey (and is kinda gross imho).
Eliminate meat from your diet and eat everything else.
Lots of yummy burritos for the lazy man.
Your not talking dairy too are you?
Eggs, cheese, a little milk in yer coffee...
Plenty of ways to mix and match.
Pick up a decent cook book if you really are feeling anal.
Moosewood cookbook has plenty of ideas for the suave veg head (our 'maid' uses it and we just looove that shite)
And yeah those Indians have it figure out.
course the thai do too
killer ME food that is veg
and those africans do some mean veg grub too
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Fivethirty and I are on the same page.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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"not eating meat was the easiest ethical choice I have ever made. It's really not hard to not eat meat."
fivethirty, a big factor in the decision making is the animal factory component, don't you think?
Googling a few images every week that show how chickens and pigs and cattle are treated in their short lives by Industrial Man keeps one "mindful" of the realities behind the chicken nuggets, etc.
If it's this bad now, how much worse might it be in 50 years?
Just imagine how much a cut back of 90% could mean? I eat meat twice a year, only at Thanksgiving and Christmas.
It has to do with my beliefs... I believe chickens to pigs to cattle feel pain and suffering no less than H. sapiens. They are conscious creatures, they are sentient beings. Imo.
Food for thought, Cragman.
Are chicken conscious? Do chicken and pig feel pain?
Or is it only... human... souls?
A good research project: How dairy cows are made, and then maintained, in dairy mode, in today's world...
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Dover
Trad climber
New England
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There is a lot of science that strongly indicates meat and dairy are pretty bad for you. Many of the common Western diseases like diabetes, many cancers, hypertension, heart disease, etc are likely caused or influenced by diet. The World Health Organization came to this conclusion recently. Kaiser Permanente, the largest healthcare organization in the US, now encourages all of its physicians to recommend a plant-based diet to their patients after conducting an independent study of the science.
Here is a link to the KP research report on diet:
http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2013/spring/5117-nutrition.html
KP also has a "how to" booklet: "The Plant-Based Diet: A Healthier Way to Eat" which has some pretty good info:
https://share.kaiserpermanente.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/The-Plant-Based-Diet-booklet.pdf
Here is a quote from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine on meat consumption and cancer risk that gives a good summary for why meat is harmful and vegetables are protective:
Two themes consistently emerge from studies of cancer from many sites: vegetables and fruits help to reduce risk, while meat, animal products, and other fatty foods are frequently found to increase risk. Consumption of dietary fat drives production of hormones, which, in turn, promotes growth of cancer cells in hormone-sensitive organs such as the breast and prostate. Meat is devoid of the protective effects of fiber, antioxidants, phytochemicals, and other helpful nutrients, and it contains high concentrations of saturated fat and potentially carcinogenic compounds, which may increase one’s risk of developing many different kinds of cancer.
Vegetarian diets and diets rich in high-fiber plant foods such as whole grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits offer a measure of protection. Fiber greatly speeds the passage of food through the colon, effectively removing carcinogens, and fiber actually changes the type of bacteria that is present in the intestine, so there is reduced production of carcinogenic secondary bile acids. Plant foods are also naturally low in fat and rich in antioxidants and other anti-cancer compounds. Not surprisingly, vegetarians are at the lowest risk for cancer and have a significantly reduced risk compared to meat-eaters.
There are lots of resources out there. Here are two books that offer useful information on the topic, both based on science:
https://www.amazon.com/Healthiest-Diet-Planet-Love-Pizza-Preventing/dp/0062426761/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0062426761&pd_rd_r=00V7M8MRGPD912JBPE6Q&pd_rd_w=NhKqo&pd_rd_wg=uDHhg&psc=1&refRID=00V7M8MRGPD912JBPE6Q
https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Die-Discover-Scientifically/dp/1250066115/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1481312469&sr=1-1&keywords=how+not+to+die+michael+greger
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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I have been a vegetarian for numerous decades not because it is healthier but because I like animals. I think it would be better for my health if I ate small amounts of meat. Westin Price did a study of many of the worlds cultures and health to determine the best diet you may want to check that out. He is big on Bone marrow. The whole low fat craze turns out to be a Madison avenue fake news report. It's the sugar and processed foods combined with booze, cigarettes' and no exercise that put you in a bad way fast. DUH! http://www.westonaprice.org/
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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It's always funny to see conservative types get down and berate people who make the choice to no longer eat meat. Like it somehow affects their life? Or it scares them? Definitely weird and always predictable.
I quit eating meat for several years and only started again when I had my surgery and needed that extra animal protein.
It taught me to become a better cook, to use all kinds of vegetables and grains and not be some unsophisticated "meat and potatoes" type who thinks a steak is fine dining. It takes some creativity and thought, unless you want to eat bread and pasta forever.
I am weening myself off meat again now. I don't eat beef unless it's the rare burger. Very little pork if any. Mostly chicken and fish. I think it's good. I am healthy and strong.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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^^ I became better cook for sure, at least I think so! It is fun and surprising at what and how good you can make a dish sans meat.
If I eat meat on one of my meat days I'll take a rare burger, some elk, speed goat, bacon or chicken. I just feel better and well, I dig that!! Tonight, chana masala with homemade raita!!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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zip, I have really enjoyed my copy of Forks over Knives The Cookbook. I suggest you page thru the recipes, find some with ingredients you like and start cooking.
I don't care for labels, i.e. I'm this or that.....I just like to do. If you want to eat healthy cook your own food and don't go to fast food places. Really, eating out once in a while is ok for fun and friendship, but I try to avoid restaurants in general. There are very few that cook as healthy as you could in your own home. Cheers from your friend, lynnie.
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