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rockermike
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Berkeley
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 17, 2016 - 04:47pm PT
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Just watched a film; "37 Days", about the 37 day run-up to WW I. Reminds me so much of the current world situation. Seemingly out of the blue, whether due to a cyber attack on Russia, or bombing of Damascus or who knows what? IMHO we could wake up any morning and find ourselves at war though few saw it coming.
here's a vid to get the conversation going. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PAnGdBVC0Q
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 17, 2016 - 04:54pm PT
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Very possibly, but the starting spark is at least as likely from within our own borders. Specifically, the TrumpCuppers who are going to try to burn the place down when he loses next month- who knows where that could lead, internationally.
And Trump is already fanning the flames of that fire.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 04:54pm PT
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the 37 day run-up to WW I. Reminds me so much of the current world situation
What, they had hackers before WWI? ;-)
Nothing changes except the details.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
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The escalation of rhetoric is curious from our gov't. Almost like they want a war with Russia, which of course is totally stupid.
Our current gov't has no idea what they're dealing with. Russia is no Libya, or Syria, which they screwed up.
I just hope the Russians realize that they're dealing with amateurs, and that we're not serious in our threats.
What they fuk are we threatening them for? For doing what? The NSA insider hacked the DNC, not Russians.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:03pm PT
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Putin ballcuppers for Trump/Pence.
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c wilmot
climber
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:06pm PT
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In my opinion it has already started in Syria and other ME areas. We have been fanning the flames for years now with our often conflicting support for various groups fighting there for equaly various reasons
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
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I was 5 when the Cuban Missile crisis almost set off WW3.
It is amazing how close they got to launch when the CIA Director said "Maybe we can try a naval blockade"
So I guess the CIA got it right once in the 60'
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:10pm PT
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We the citizens must resist this. There are hidden powers who profit greatly from war. We thought we learned our lesson from Vietnam but we went and got dragged into Iraq when we should have said NO.
When it comes, it will seem really logical but that will be a manufacture of the public relations people.
Civil war in the USA? The pattern is there but the will is not. Somewhat similar pattern to the Spanish Civil war going on right now; Fascists vs Commies.
NEVER kill anyone for politics. It's all a scam.
If someone wants you to kill others, take a hard look at who is paying them.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:15pm PT
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NEVER kill anyone for politics. It's all a scam.
If someone wants you to kill others, take a hard look at who is paying them.
Amen, brother....
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:24pm PT
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Could be. One never knows what the day will bring. Most of us have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Can you personally stop WW111? Doubt it.
Can you make a difference in this world and on this planet? Yes! Get about the task.
Love, Forgive (very important) promote healing, and take care of the only planet we have. Make a conscious effort to do these things every day and the world WILL be a better place. lynnie....trying every day to walk the walk a little better than the day before. Cheers!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:39pm PT
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By the way, how many people here are aware of this administrations support for an ongoing $1 trillion project to massively enhance our nuclear warfighting capability?
Good Lord! Where do I start? With the 1 trillion dollars, or the thought of considering a nuclear war?
The people running our gov't will get many of us killed without regard it seems. It's all a college theoretical exercise to them? Just like Libya, Syria, and Iran. Everything they touch gets broken even worse!
This is NOT A F*#KING GAME, OR EXERCISE!!!
Again, the Russians are smart enough to realize they're dealing with amateur-hour idiots. I just hope they also realize there are protocols in place that still defend us from idiocy.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 05:54pm PT
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If you consider the fact that the people running our government don't even live in the United States, it starts to make allot more sense. This is all about the BRICS nations(stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa), nations who want to not be involved with our financial system and dollar, since our banking system is so corrupt. Federal Reserve? Ask yourself who are they? They run our whol economy and money supply but they are not part of our government, and they will go to war to destroy the BRICS nations rather then let them start their own finance system.
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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The use of tactical nukes and false flags have been the norm recently.
Funny Duck...
Curt
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
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If you consider the fact that the people running our government don't even live in the United States, it starts to make allot more sense. This is all about the BRICS nations(stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa), nations who want to not be involved with our financial system and dollar, since our banking system is so corrupt. Federal Reserve? Ask yourself who are they? They run our whol economy and money supply but they are not part of our government, and they will go to war to destroy the BRICS nations rather then let them start their own finance system.
Ughh...I hate corruption and deceit!!!! Why are people so greedy? Why can't people just 'do the right thing'?
Integrity is dead in our leadership. Dead, dead, dead! We have lost our way. Integrity and honesty is our only hope.
It's shocking how much our government is getting away with in it's usurpation of it's Constitutional duties. They are unaccountable to any legal institutions. The DOJ, and now the FBI. Rotten!
This is not good for our country.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:10pm PT
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In this country?
On a more serious note, I do believe if trump is elected we will end up in a nuke war.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
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Good Grief
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
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On a more serious note, I do believe if trump is elected we will end up in a nuke war.
With who, China? A good reason to have Russia on your side in confidence, and in the UN Security Council.
Russia should be a very key ally of ours, if we were smart. We have a lot in common with Russia, except for Iran and Syria. But that's where diplomacy could HELP US, in dealing with them.
Putin would love to have us as an ally. And we would benefit immensely from it it IMO. China too, for that matter. But they need to reel in some of their shenanigans first. As should Russia.
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Oct 17, 2016 - 07:04pm PT
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No. This has been another episode of simple answers to stupid questions.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 17, 2016 - 07:07pm PT
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Putin is strugglng to hold power.
BwaHaHaHaHa!
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