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petersometimesclimbs

Trad climber
boston, ma
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 1, 2016 - 12:08pm PT
Hello fellow climbers, i am hoping to move out west for work etc. I do realize there are a ton of posts out there giving advice on where to live as a climber (and I have read many of them) but I thought maybe my situation is unique enough that some locals and know-where's can give me some more insightful tips. I have asked for info here in the past and people have been of great help! (Thanks a lot!)

I spent the last 5 yrs or so in Europe for study and I plan to move back to the US some time next year. Close proximity to places like the Alps and Dolomites got me really hooked on the alpine environment. Knowing so little about anything west of Missouri (where I went to university), I am struggling to find a suitable place for work and play.

Things that I am looking for in a town:
 a major hospital nearby (preferably with a level 2 trauma center) - unfortunately for climbing my profession is in medicine...
 near or in the mountains at altitude...nothing beats living with a mountain view and fresh air...
 lots of opportunity for sport, trad (<30 min drive?!) and alpine climbing not far away (<1-2 hr drive?!). I will likely be kept very busy so probably living near a sport crag that could allow me to climb a bit after/before work would be ideal. Excessive indoor climbing drives me a bit manic, as does continuous bolt clipping. So it is pretty important to have long alpine rock/mixed/ice routes accessible.
 a friendly and simple climbing community would be great. My family lives in Boston and a recent visit left me aghast at the soaring number of pompous gym rats...

I've looked at places like Boulder and Bishop, but I would really appreciate some insightful words from knowing locals!

Thank you very much!
petersometimesclimbs

Trad climber
boston, ma
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2016 - 12:17pm PT
haven't been following US politics too much, but surely Trump isn't going to win...........................................................right?!
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID
Oct 1, 2016 - 12:20pm PT
Let's hope you're right.
I moved to Boise because it's nice here and all the things I like are fairly close by.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Oct 1, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
As a medical professional you can probably command a good salary, so there are lots of options. In Boulder the median price of a home is roughly .5 million, and, from what I've read here, in San Jose that would get you a fixer-upper with cockroaches.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 1, 2016 - 12:29pm PT
If you're into alpine then Washington is the only place to live.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Oct 1, 2016 - 12:39pm PT
Reno is level2?

Tahoe/Mammoth/Yosemite and all eastern Sierra are within striking distance

Reach out to Footloose who posts here- he's somewhere between Reno and Tahoe to think.
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Oct 1, 2016 - 02:02pm PT
Utah?

I'd say Colorado but snow in the winter may drive you indoors, not good. Boise is a good suggestion.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Oct 1, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Albuquerque, Boise, Spokane, Portland..and more.

I'm not going to try to get into the where of sport, gym, Alpine etc.
All the great cities of the west are within reach of greatness. Wages and quality living at home, where you spend most of your time are key, it seems to me.
Example: Albuquerque doesn't get enough credit, for being almost another country culturally, next to 10,000 ft peaks, Alpine rock climbing, great food, clip ups, Rockies within pretty easy reach etc.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 1, 2016 - 02:18pm PT
Montrose, Colorado. You could live in the country south of town and be twenty minutes from both work and excellent sport (on three rock types) and superb seasonal ice climbing in Ouray. You would be an hour from some of America's best multipitch trad in the Black Canyon and world class hiking in the San Juan mountains. You would also be in easy striking distance of Indian Creek and Desert Towers.
Montrose has a good hospital. Chris Ryder, a 5.13 climber, is an anethesiologist there. It's a beautiful area and housing is considerably less expensive than Boulder or Bishop. I live in Ouray and love it. There is a very active climbing and backcountry ski community.
Montrose has about 15,000 inhabitants and is 5,700 feet above sea level. As you move south towards Ridgway 25 miles away and Ouray 35 miles there are more elk than people and the elevation gradually rises to 7,700 feet.
Crazy Bat

Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
Oct 1, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
Think about Chattanooga Tennessee. Where else can you get so many double letters? Google Sunset Rock, Pigeon Mountain, Tennessee Wall, Dennys Cove, Little River Canyon, Cherokee Rock Village, Foster Falls. There is an active Climbing group with a great website called the Southeast Climbers Coalition.

If you need a bigger Medical Complex consider Nashville and Vanderbuilt or Birmingham Alabama with the University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB). For after work climbing Chattanooga would rock. There is so much rock I only know of one climbing gym. The weather is moderate, allowing climbing year round. Not much Ice Climbing though.

clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Oct 1, 2016 - 03:01pm PT
Don't move to Santa Cruz, it sucks.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 1, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
Think about Chattanooga Tennessee.

Right. Because it's so close to the alpine climbing the OP said he wanted to be close to.

Not.

And a question for the OP: Are you able to live in Canada? Not that there aren't great places that match your criteria in the US, but your options increase substantially if you look north of the US border as well.
couchmaster

climber
Oct 1, 2016 - 03:23pm PT
Montrose. Fantastic area, Domini has it. North Cascades a distant second.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Oct 1, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
...a major hospital nearby...
...near or in the mountains at altitude...
...lots of opportunity for sport, trad and alpine...
You got a lot of advice, but not all of the suggestions meet all of your criteria, especially the altitude criteria.

Boulder is extremely expensive, and unless you're rich and already have a well-paid job lined up, you'll be sharing an apartment with of 3 other people and barely scraping by. Forget about buying a house...

Denver and Colorado Springs areas are better choices
-Not so expensive
-High altitude (4,000 - 5,000 feet)
-lot of climbing nearby
-big hospitals all over the place

Western Colorado is also not a bad choice

Scott McNamara

climber
Tucson, Arizona
Oct 1, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
You might consider Flagstaff, Arizona.

As far a rock climbing is concerned, it has a great deal. In addition, it is located so that Lemmon, JT, Red Rocks, Moab are all very accessible.

It has a Level 1 Trauma center. An acquaintance, who is a cutter and used to occasionally write a medical column for Climbing, settled there.

While it does not have alpine or ice, it is so located that these types of climbing are not a horrendous drive.

It is a very livable town, albeit it somewhat expensive.

http://www.flagstaff.az.gov/index.aspx?nid=2
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 1, 2016 - 05:33pm PT
I really like the San Juans. Flagstaff has the Grand Canyon, it is not alpine except maybe briefly in the winter after a storm on the rim, but it has a lifetime of adventures.

the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Oct 1, 2016 - 05:59pm PT
They don't allow mas#@&%es west of the Mississippi. Hmm, I guess you can't say mass hole.

Just kidding. I think you'd get better responses listing the level 2 trauma centers in the mountains and where they are, then the posters could fill you in on the climbing around them.
petersometimesclimbs

Trad climber
boston, ma
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
wow thanks a lot for all the replies!! I will definitely look into all those places. Other things I could have probably mentioned is availability of ski touring nearby and a progressive mindset in the community, but I don't want the list of prerequisites to run off the page...


And a question for the OP: Are you able to live in Canada? Not that there aren't great places that match your criteria in the US, but your options increase substantially if you look north of the US border as well.

Unfortunately Canada has a different exam and licensing procedure from the US so unless I spend significant amount of money & time on that, I would not be able to work in Canada.
petersometimesclimbs

Trad climber
boston, ma
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
Reno is level2?

Tahoe/Mammoth/Yosemite and all eastern Sierra are within striking distance

Reach out to Footloose who posts here- he's somewhere between Reno and Tahoe to think.

Reno does indeed have a level 2 trauma center but unfortunately all the surgical training posts of Nevada are located in Vegas...not wanting to offend anyone from Vegas, but I really can't see a blissful life there for me....
petersometimesclimbs

Trad climber
boston, ma
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2016 - 06:10pm PT
I think you'd get better responses listing the level 2 trauma centers in the mountains and where they are, then the posters could fill you in on the climbing around them.

http://www.amtrauma.org/?page=findtraumacenter

select green and red pins would list all the lvl 1 and 2 trauma centers...interestingly, notice the striking difference between east and west of the Mississippi...
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