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labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
I'm for Clinton..... Not too happy about it but she is certainly less likely to do catastrophic damage...
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:04pm PT
Much as I agree with you, another thread like this is really not needed or helpful. Matter of fact, it just pisses off a lot of people.
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:08pm PT
"Much as I agree with you, another thread like this is really not needed or helpful. Matter of fact, it just pisses off a lot of people."

And he didn't even put OT in the title.......

Shame!
Shame!!
SHAME!!!
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:15pm PT
Who do you think really counts all these "votes"?
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:29pm PT
Decades after the fall of the Third Reich, it feels impossible to understand how Adolf Hitler, the tyrant who orchestrated one of the largest genocides in human history, could ever have risen to power in a democratic country. So how did it happen, and could it happen again? Alex Gendler and Anthony Hazard dive into the history and circumstances that allowed Hitler to become Führer of Germany.


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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:45pm PT
Oh, they're not 'unsuspecting', Moose. They are conscious, and fully complicit. That's the scary reality about them...and they'll be around even if he loses.

Any chance you could nuke this thread?
Norton

Social climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 01:57pm PT
great

the admins already nuked three other political threads recently

how long before they nuke HDDJ's?

so time to start another one!

NUKE THIS ONE

couchmaster

climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:12pm PT


Meh, old newz Moose.



wait, hmmmm....mayhaps the choice is not so clear at first glance?

sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:15pm PT
Don't nuke this thread, moose. This is the turning point for the US. There are two POS's running for office. It is truly the nadir of American politics, and from here on out, the political landscape will change dramatically in this country. Neither one is qualified to be POTUS, but alas, here we are. It is truly a case of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. I'd vote for Obama again, like I did in the last 2 elections. Clinton is distasteful, but the idea of some golf club swinging, reality tv show host calling the shots is simply untenable.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:21pm PT
Most people that I talk to can't stand either candidate, so who is voting for them I'd like to know. You can't have that many village idiots, can you?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
There are two POS's running for office.

This is nonsense.

Shame on you for buying into the R narrative. What was it bengazi or emails? Foster?



Neither one is qualified to be POTUS

More nonsense.

Get real.


....


Moose, ignore him. What else do expect from someone's who proud to claim he's got no beliefs? Think about it... Has he ever posted anything that isn't glib or flip about something important?
John M

climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:29pm PT
the other threads got nuked for a few reasons. One was that there were too many and they were taking over the forum. But also because they got mean. If you can find a way to discuss ideas and not just trash each other, then I believe the mods will leave these threads alone.

I suggest nuking the main thread every once in awhile and starting a new one. Once they reach a certain size, then they carry too much of a negative energy and they devolve. That or do like other large threads, such as the stoneman threads. Don't nuke it, just start a new thread and link it to the old one.

I like your post moose.. I am currently wrestling with the notion that letting the country sink might be the only way for some people to wake up. But I also believe that some people won't ever wake up, and thus its best to keep the country from imploding and pray that some day God will see fit to end their time. ( this will of course cause some to lose their minds because oh my goodness, I mentioned God. It will cause others to lose their minds because they don't believe in reincarnation. )

the overwhelming negativism is kind of mind blowing. Many here act like they are above it, and yet they post negative post after negative post, adding to the ugliness. At some point it has to stop.

I like Chris' occasional house cleaning.

And just to be clear, I believe the occasional knock down drag out online fight is fine. They have a possibility of clearing the air. Its the constant sniping that is not healthy. And I include Werner's sniping in that. Just because I agree with him on many things does not mean that I always agree with his methods.

Carry on Crankloons
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
Hey dude, I don't give two shits about what the cons say. In fact, I give half a sh#t or perhaps a 1/4 of one if that. The best the dems can come up with is Hilary Clinton? How about Elizabeth Warren for POTUS, instead of the wife of a former president who was sticking cigars in his intern in the Oval Office while being impeached? I'm voting for the lesser of 2 evils, and fukin Drumpf has no business whatsoever dictating the future of the country.
PS. BENGHAZI!!!!!!1111
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:37pm PT
who was sticking cigars in his intern in the Oval Office while being impeached?

Forgive me, I forgot to mention that one.


So how do you know, brainiac, that in his moment with Monica they weren't celebrating another uptick in the economy or a great new trade deal with Vietnam? Were you there to note the context? Those were good times all the way around. Nation wise. Economy and business wise. That is what counts.

It's a shame you've fallen for some stupid Judeo-Christian ethic concerning sex and its dirtiness.


You should NOT give TWO Shits about Clinton's sex life as long as he's done his job.


FYI, HRC's been in the trenches fighting the good fights (for women, eg, for health care) for 25 plus years. For christsakes you should recognize that and appreciate it. Instead look what we get from you: the Republican talking point. :(
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:40pm PT
"Donald Trump raised doubts about whether the United States under his leadership would come to the aid of its NATO allies in Europe in the event of an attack by Russia, in an interview with The New York Times on Wednesday"


I'm sure our NATO allies feel great about comments and stories like this.....
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
Moose, NutAgain and Warbler... three of the smartest here at ST!
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:47pm PT
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,"
santayanna

I'm sure our NATO allies feel great about comments and stories like this.....

and yet he wants NATO to carry more of the load in taking on ISIS.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:48pm PT
He could stick cigars up his own ass for all I care, brainiac. I care nothing about religion, religious values, etc. All I stated was that this was the best the dems could come up with. So, I have to fervently believe in HRC to vote for her? They're politicians, they're all crooks. Who can raise the most money..oh, it's always about money. I'm on the same side as you, and yet here you are, calling me out on bullsh#t.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
All I stated was that this was the best the dems could come up with.

So are you taking into acct the very real, very relevant fact that HRC had to work with(in) the system we've inherited? and that she still does?

Indeed, did she not try to fight it, as a maverick, 25 years ago? and there were lessons learned by her, were there not.

Remember, my main objection was calling her a POS. Very unjustified, imo.

He could stick cigars up his own ass for all I care, brainiac. I care nothing about religion, religious values, etc.

This is good.


Sorry we don't agree more.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jul 21, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
yes, yes i am. If she were to have come out on here own, without a presidential legacy behind her, she'd be an instant shoe-in. Damn dude, I don't hate the woman, I just believe her associations with her philandering husband (who I voted for twice because I don't care about his personal life) has hindered what could be a landslide victory. It just gives the shithead cons a pulpit to preach from. That's all.
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