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clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 17, 2016 - 06:34am PT
Which has longer lines, better concessions, or better lodging?

Disney has Micky and Goofy, Yosemite has?

Is there an uncrowded "off season" anymore?

When I was 15 my family did a combo trip to both. Camping at the River Campgrounds, climbing the Five open books, and going to the Curry run concessions beat Disney hands down

clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2016 - 07:26am PT
At $80 for a season pass for a car load of 6 vs. $1,200 plus for one day, Yosemite is affordable.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 07:41am PT
At last report, no alligators in Yosemite.

http://myfwc.com/media/310203/Alligator-GatorBites.pdf

mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Jul 17, 2016 - 07:43am PT
Shoulda used the past tense....
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:38am PT
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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:39am PT
Didn't I just hear that Yosemite will host Sturgis West?
WBraun

climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:48am PT
Yosemite going the way of Disneyland?

NO ... you people are.

You crazy people have created the lunacy of gross materialism in America .....
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 10:28am PT
Parks are for bears. Keep the people out.
**
Denali hikers escape bear


As the hunt continues for a sub-adult grizzly bear with an attitude that has been threatening people near the Savage River in Denali National Park and Preserve, photos have emerged of rangers saving hikers from the troublesome animal.



http://craigmedred.news/2016/07/11/denali-hikers-escape-bear/

overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 17, 2016 - 10:56am PT
Savage River clue in the name, duh
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 17, 2016 - 11:12am PT
We are the children of parents who allowed this to happen.

Shift-the-Blame Sunday today.

Rumor has it that the Rangers are seeking permission to build their new Ranger Ice Palace in one of the meadows.Just an idle rumor, though.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:19pm PT
But first you'd have to get rid of corruption and cronyism, Locker. Fat chance!
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
The key to enjoying Yosemite is to find your niche. It's totally possible to visit Yosemite and not see anybody else at all. I used to do it a bunch when I lived closer.

Just regulate your time and specific destination.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:40pm PT
I think some of you are conveniently overlooking one of the Park Service's
major mandates - make the parks accessible to ALL. Apparently that has
been construed to include the concept that pizza is a necessity.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:51pm PT
pretty sure pizza is one of the 10 essentials.
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
The real McCoy from somewhere over the rainbow...
Jul 17, 2016 - 02:04pm PT
It is not too bad if you never enter a vehicle, stear clear of the roads and popular trails, and cook your own food... Entering and exiting seems best under cover of darkness...
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
Aramak is charging money to ride the shuttle bus.

The previous concessionaire is holding Yosemite trademarks hostage.


Disney's profit-fixation has come to YNP.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 17, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
Camp 4 always reminded me of Pirates of the Caribean..
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:17pm PT
I don't know about going the way of Disneyland, but maybe just Six Flags Discovery Kingdom.


Riding The Joker at Six Flags Yosemite is a little different.
jstan

climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 10:09pm PT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahwahnee_Hotel#The_Currys

This source indicates YPCC actually funded the construction of the Ahwahnee hotel. DNC asserts
the NPS required DNC to buy from YPCC all the physical assets belonging to YPCC as a
requirement for DNC to be the concessionaire. DNC now wants Aramark to pay DNC what they
consider the true value of those properties including intellectual properties. As if "Go Climb a rock"
could be intellectual.

Here is my question. What about Universal Studios? They were the concessionaire replacing YPCC
back when there were real climbers in the Valley.. OK so it is possible Universal did not obtain title
to those improvements instead outsourcing to YPCC the provision of those services. I vaguely
remember there was another concessionaire in there after Universal Studios.

Complicated.

Edit:
Little did I guess.






http://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/01/09/Yosemite-concession-contract-to-stay-in-US/3685663397200/

WASHINGTON -- Interior Secretary Manuel Lujan announced Wednesday he had succeeded
in forcing Japan's Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. to sell its tourist facilities in Yosemite National
Park to a non-profit group.
The $49.5 million sale will be completed in 1993, at which time the non-profit group, the National
Park Foundation, will donate its property to the National Park Service. The service will then
negotiate contract terms with a new concession operator.

The deal will 'ensure successful future management and operations of one of this country's
magnificent wonders,' Lujan told the House Interior Subcommittee on National Parks and Public
Lands.'

But the arrangement also requires domestic ownership of the concession business at Yosemite, the
principal reason Lujan raised objections to Matsushita's $6.6 billlion acquisition of MCA Inc. last
week. The company's subsidiaries include Universal Studios and MCA Records.

Lujan repeatedly said during the hearing and later at a news conference that he wished to 'tone
down the rhetoric,' though he denied that he had engaged in 'Japan bashing.'
'Certainly not,' he said when asked whether he led a crusade against Japan. 'There was not any
Japan bashing.'
The complex deal means that MCA will sell the Yosemite Park & Curry Co., which runs hotels,
restaurants, groceries and a gas station inside the central Sierra Nevada park. Included are the
Ahwahnee Hotel, Yosemite Lodge and the historic tent cabins.
Robert Hadl, vice president and general counsel of MCA Inc., said Wednesday, 'The agreement
which was reached (Tuesday) ensures that the concession at Yosemite Park will continue to be run
and managed by Americans.'
The maker of Panasonic, Technics and other brand-name electronics had been under heavy
pressure from the Interior Department to let go of MCA's Yosemite concessions since the takeover.
Before the deal was completed, Lujan asked MCA to donate the concessions company to the U.S.
Park Service or sell it for less than its estimated value to the National Park Foundation, created by
Congress to receive private gifts to the National Park System.

MCA agreed that profits from one of American's most scenic treasures should not go overseas, but
refused to donate Yosemite and Curry, offering instead to sell it to an American company within a
year, putting the pre-sale profits into an escrow account.

Talks on that possible deal broke down shortly before the takeover was completed.
Under the deal completed Wednesday, MCA will retain the profits -- estimated at up to $15 million a
year -- until the transfer in 1993.

Yosemite, with its massive granite formations and spectacular waterfalls and meadows, has become
one of the most visited of the national parks.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jul 17, 2016 - 11:03pm PT
Yosemite going the way of Disneyland?

Nobody goes there anymore.

It's too crowded.
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