Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
sawatch choss
|
|
|
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 14, 2016 - 07:00am PT
|
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/us/california-surfers-look-to-courts-for-relief-against-bay-boys.html?login=email&_r=0
"“In most places, if you come out in the lineup, wait your turn, give respect, they’ll give you a chance, but these guys don’t even do that,” he said. In Lunada, he said, “I’ve been threatened with jail and rape, racial language.”
Diana Milena Reed, an aspiring big-wave surfer who lives in Malibu, said she was sexually harassed in February while watching a friend surf from a stone patio that local surfers constructed decades ago on the nearby rocks — without approval from the state. She said a middle-aged man sprayed beer on her, made an array of sexual comments, and briefly exposed himself, all while several others looked on."
Fun video documentation:
http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/may/18/california-surf-wars-lunada-bay-localism-surfing
"“The reason there’s a lot of space is because we keep it like that. We f*#king hassle people,” said one man in his fifties as he pulled on a wetsuit and prepared to paddle out. Like the others, he declined to give his name.
They would sabotage any outsider’s attempt to surf, he said: “We’ll burn you every single wave.” "
|
|
Buck Wilde
Boulder climber
Oregon
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 07:33am PT
|
Sounds like a few pretty-boys are in need of a righteous ass whoopin'
|
|
BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:24am PT
|
Back off, Warchild
|
|
Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:44am PT
|
After seeing that video, someone should get an old school bus and load it up with Da Hui surfers all riding 9' Wavestorms at Lunada Bay. I'd pay to watch that.
|
|
drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:53am PT
|
There are already surf rage laws on the books.
Sexual assault is a crime.
Book'm Dano.
Vibing people and burning them on every wave is not a crime.
Trying to blow the lid off of something as long standing and engrained as localism...with a lawsuit...is f*#king stupid. It's never going away.
Just my two cents.
If somebody commits a crime- violence, sexual assault- by all means, they should pay.
But this whole "They have a hut and they were mean to me!" thing is lame.
That's why localism works- most people know certain spot's rep and just choose to go somewhere else and avoid the hassle.
Not advocating violence or even the vibing, but the hype of the "localism lawsuit" sh#t is lame.
|
|
drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 09:02am PT
|
There are ways to "protect" your spot without resorting to crime.
Throwing rocks and vandalizing someone's car are crimes.
Go after the individual that did these things.
|
|
Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 09:19am PT
|
"Go after the individual that did these things."
Part of the lawsuit names the local police, for not responding to complaints.
|
|
drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 09:41am PT
|
Burch- the sh#t that goes down at some of the LJ reefs is way heavier than the Bay.
|
|
drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 09:50am PT
|
Agreed.
|
|
losbill2
climber
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
|
Been a very long while since my surfing days. However a very brief fist fight with a local on the beach at Rincon after he cut me off a 20+ foot wave when I had position seemed to restore surfing etiquette for the remainder of my couple of months stay.
That said sexual harassment as described in this thread is absolute juvenile BS and calling the cops and filing a complaint is absolutely the way to go. Get the freaking sleaze ball, want-to-be in front of a judge where he belongs.
|
|
overwatch
climber
Arizona
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 06:20pm PT
|
Quote However a very brief fist fight with a local on the beach at Rincon after he cut me off a 20+ foot wave when I had position seemed to restore surfing etiquette for the remainder of my couple of months stay.
That didn't take long
|
|
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
|
Climbing will never have this problem cause the harder you climb the less people are there.
|
|
drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
|
Climbing generally doesn't have this problem because climbers instinctively like to travel.
And the cliff is always there .
|
|
zBrown
Ice climber
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
|
Kevin said it all. It's not worth the hassle and hassling.
Punks who weren't even born when we used to surf in "their" spots claiming it as turf.
It would be interesting if someone confronted one of these guys one on one well away from the beach. Oh, someone did?
Yep.
Call me an elitist, but skiing (more $$) never suffered this syndrome.
|
|
zBrown
Ice climber
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 07:44pm PT
|
Amendment:
Right. Not pointing fingers here, however the conflicts, such as they are, seemed to show up about the same time as the snowboarders, but it's the same localism or whatever you want to call it.
Kite surfing used to be pretty mellow, but it's changing too.
|
|
zBrown
Ice climber
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:17pm PT
|
Might want to click to enlarge.
|
|
StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:23pm PT
|
20ft + at Rincon?
|
|
east side underground
climber
paul linaweaver hilton crk ca
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
|
in fourty years of skiing and riding never seen fisticuffs on the hill .....seen plenty in the water......the white wave breaks from nov to may
|
|
zBrown
Ice climber
|
|
|
Apr 14, 2016 - 08:51pm PT
|
Jim, meet me down at Hussong's and I can explain it all to you.
"Dude" is kind of, well totally, retro. Just say "pinche" and add your own noun.
Like, pinche droid, pinche newfie ....
|
|
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|
Let us know!